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PS3 Firmware Update 3.21 Conspiracy

Ironstar writes; "So I received a very interesting tip on my YouTube channel today from a user that goes by the name of meowmmmmm. He claims to have heard from a programmer that firmware update 3.21 was far from just removing the other OS function to prevent hackers from exploiting it."

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PirateThom5897d ago

I'd say it's bull, since it wouldn't have been in use for the OtherOS during games and they could easily have used it anyway, the 8 SPE was definitely disabled due to yields.

morganfell5897d ago

Exactly. The SPE would be dormant and free to use anyway. The only exception would be attempting to run an application under Linux using Move which wouldn't be something Sony wouldn't officially support in the first place.

If anything this is a clear example of a website that is willing to publish a rumor that came to them on youtube. Idiotic. They do not mention having endeavored to mount one iota of due diligence which makes them irresponsible at the very least.

I would use words such as journalistic integrity but that would be assuming there was journalism involved in the first place and all evidence says otherwise.

presto7175897d ago

Unlike natal that will be eating up 15% - 20% of the xbox's aging processor / gpu / whatever.

I honestly dont mind to be honest.

shadow27975896d ago

^So.. you believe it?

And here I thought April fool's day was a few days ago.

zag5896d ago

This is all wrong anyway.

The Cell has 2 CPUs and 8 SPUs/SPEs

The first Cell CPUS dropped the 8th SPu/SPE due to making them the process wasn't up to spec yet, that's what NVidia are currently doing with the ferni chips.

anyway 1 CPU is only used for the xbar and the other is for running games etc.

The SPus/SPEs aren't used for any xbar or games or otherOS as the CPu tell them what to do on the side so you couldn't shut them down anyway.

tuaamin135896d ago

This guy has no idea what he's talking about or that his answer even technically makes sense.

We all know that "OtherOS" can't touch the PS3 OS. Why would Sony create a processor with 8 SPEs, then give 6 to the game (Known), 1 to the XMB (known), and 1 to a function you can't even use simultaneously?! If you had OtherOS running in some bastardized form it couldn't touch the PS3 OS, so what good is it running?

Now all of a sudden this hypothetical core is going to be used for Move. I'd buy a core dedicated for Move, not coming from this source (OtherOS I mean, not this site, though he's full of crap too).

Why can't we just admit that Move isn't resource intensive? You don't need a dual core to track your mouse. It's doing far less computation than Natal is, so it's not inconceivable that it's fairly lightweight.

sikbeta5896d ago (Edited 5896d ago )

Bah... the last thing I needed... Conspiracy Theories... First of all, is it true that the 8th SPE is Locked only to be used by The OtherOS?

The PS3 Cell have 1 PPE and 8 SPEs, 1 SPE is locked-out, and another 1 is reserved for the OS, leaving 6 SPEs to be used by games code, so there is no SPE locked for the OtherOS

So, as Far as I can Understand, IF the OtherOS use 1 SPE is only when you use Linux and by that is FREE when you don't use it, so a Game like UC2 can Use that SPE + The Others (6SPEs) cuz you're not using the OtherOS at the same time...

Ju5896d ago

One is locked because of yields (of the early production chips). One runs the OS - and that would mostly mean the hypervisor security code. This is always locked away, no matter if GameOS or OtherOS. Any OS can only use the remaining 6. That's it.

pixelsword5896d ago (Edited 5896d ago )

The "other OS" and Move won't be in use at the same time, so it's removal wouldn't be necessary on that front.

And how did the demo booths run Move when the update wasn't even out yet? I doubt that the made upgrades specifically for the booths or that those were devkits and no one noticed.

Quadrostacker5896d ago

that they remove the Other OS & updated the flash on the browser

YoungKiller255896d ago

According to him One SPE or SPU is used for the Hypervisor which lets users run more than one operating system on the system at a time, removing the Other OS feature would no longer warrant the need for a hypervisor freeing up a SPU but then again no one really even knows what the locked SPU on the system is for, some say to improve chip yeilds but thats kind of stupid, so who knows they might be able to unlock it whenever they want, but id like to beleive this guys theory cause that means more performance, and theoretically improving the PS3's power by 16% which is significant and would help in the ps3's quest for full 3D

quadalupeupe5896d ago

and yet again I read the Future accurately

you can probably google my nick and search shacknews might still be there

yes i was sort of trolling but only because that site is littered with 360 fanboys

rroded5896d ago

said this ages ago that i think they b using the extra core for the move but it was never needed for other os...

sucks imo bought a 60 gigger n other os is a cvore feature to me its like them taking away my b/c sure i dont use it much but i paid for it n expect to have access ta it.

PSFan1005896d ago

I can't believe someone made an article based on a random users youtube comment...It's not even logical, when a game is being played you couldn't run the other OS at the same time, therefore a reserved 8th spe, as claimed, wouldn't be needed.

Anon19745896d ago

So, we're to believe that this is some conspiracy, a Sony cover up rather then a legitimate response to someone hacking their system after he hacked it, released his hack and then bragged about it on his blog?

I think that's a bit of a stretch.

HSx95896d ago

sounds to me like someone is being an attention whore to get more subscribers.

Tachyon_Nova5896d ago

Seriously, what a load of BS. Think about what that would mean. If the 8th SPE was left aside just for the other OS function, then surely it would be logical to say that this means that the other OS would be running only on that SPE. Agreed? Well this clearly isnt the case, if it was then that particular OS would be run incredibly slowly. Does the other OS function also have 5Mb of RAM set aside for it? Of course not, that's not how it works at all.

I think it highlights that the person who posted this is pretty stupid. There would be no need to set aside part of the processor for a particular OS, as only one of them (OS) is running at once, allowing the OS to use the entire CPU and all its SPE's. So put simply, either the PS3's OS is running, or a version of Linux is running, not both at the same time.

Pwee5896d ago

I think some nerds look too much into it tbh!

xAlmostPro5895d ago

@articlewriter for a start sony didnt say "its to stop geo hotz" so stfu

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LordMarius5897d ago

Why exactly should I believe a Youtube commenter?

harv7115896d ago

Because everything posted on the internet is the god's honest truth and should be followed blindly without looking at facts or logic.

jerethdagryphon5896d ago

on the spe reserved for the os more then the hypervisor runs on it all of the os features are run through that os

but this is a bs article anyways

NightVyper5896d ago

This must be true, I am totally a Nigerian Millionaire thanks to the internet.

ClownBelt5897d ago

I'm going to make up some lie and pm the writer's youtube channel to get some spotlight too.

thebudgetgamer5897d ago

It read: Everytime you buy a PSN game Sony slaps a pixie right in the face.

Cajun Chicken5897d ago

Lots of slapped pixies face for me then.

Johnny Rotten5897d ago (Edited 5897d ago )

I once read a button the said "every time you masturbate you kill a kitten"

SHHHH don't tell PITA.

Chaostar5897d ago

LMAO! This is ar$e clarts of the highest magnitude. I can't believe someone actually believed this, well done Meowmmmmm you really fooled that guy.

Honestly though anyone with a decent enough grasp of their hardware would know that this is foolishness gone mad, perpetuated in some vain attempt to undermine Sonys Move marketing. Motion controlling is gonna have a hard enough time appealing to hardcore gamers without this kind of veiled mudslinging.

http://www.thesixthaxis.com...

http://www.community.eu.pla...

No idea why i'm defending motion controls of any sort, just don't like vicious rumours.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot28d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle27d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7727d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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15 Years Ago, Mortal Kombat (2011) Saved Gaming’s Biggest Fighting Franchise

A brutal reset, a smarter story, and a return to what made it great—Mortal Kombat (2011) revived the series.

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italiangamer36d ago

"Gaming’s Biggest Fighting Franchise"

Press X to (seriously) doubt.

DarXyde34d ago

Underrated comment. I used to hate that game so much that any time my siblings asked me to play it, I just picked Hom and shut myself down mid-match.

Soy34d ago

And then MK1 killed it again.

DivineHand12534d ago (Edited 34d ago )

15 years went by so fast. I remember playing through the story mode at launch.

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PlayStation legend Shuhei Yoshida says Jim Ryan fired him because he didn't listen to him

Why did Sony push Shuhei Yoshida out of his role leading PlayStation's first-party games? He'd overseen some huge successes. Well, apparently, he didn't listen.

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Relientk7736d ago

Yeah I can see that for sure. Shuhei Yoshida should have been in charge not Jim Ryan.

Cacabunga36d ago

It should be free highway for him now.. but Sony are too stupid to see this, especially that moron Hulst

S2Killinit35d ago (Edited 35d ago )

Wtf why all that anger. PlayStation is dominating on every level. Besides I think there is a little more to hiring a CEO than just who is available. Its not like its a athlete your team wants to buy.

neutralgamer199235d ago

S2Killinit

live service failures, chasing trends, closing studios. yes dominating

Cacabunga35d ago

Sony is Dominating because competition is not existing. Compared to previous gens this is the poorest in terms of software offerings.

Last gen we got Uncharted 4 Lost Legacy and TLOU2 from ND alone.

This is so far a remasters gen, with no competition to lift up the quality

1nsomniac35d ago (Edited 35d ago )

..."PlayStation is dominating on every level"....

...Really???

PlayStation are soon heading into a new generation in the not to distant future. They currently have the worst customer satisfaction they've ever sustained as a company. The company is heading for a huge crash while at the same time they'll need to be planning how they are going to try and win back that favour and the build up to their new releases.

Yes financially they're winning but they're going to have to ride out this complete public corporate disaster. No one has faith in the company or the product anymore. They've damaged their public image so much this generation. Greed can kill anyone.

medman35d ago

Hulst is a disaster......

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blacktiger35d ago

He would've done the same thing and fire Jim Ryan and Shuhei would be the villain. Why?
Because Elite creates the narrative and distraction for gamers, users and citizens.

Outside_ofthe_Box36d ago

More confirmation that Jim Ryan is the culprit for what has happened to Sony. Hulst needs to go too. What sucks is that a lot of the good top heads at Sony are no longer there. I wish that guys that were forced out prematurely by Dumbo Jimbo like Shuhei and Layden came back.

robtion35d ago

Yep. Yoshida was responsible for bringing one of the best games of this generation to playstation (Stellar Blade). He is an actual gamer and is in touch with what gamers want (creative, fun games, not GaaS and agenda pushing). He also seems like a genuinely nice guy if you watch some interviews. Of course they got rid of him.

darthv7236d ago

Makes you wonder if MS even thought about hiring him after Phil and Sarah were leaving. He certainly couldn't make their situation any worse.

Agent7535d ago

Microflop. After Windows XP and Xbox 360, it all went floppy.

S2Killinit35d ago

Floppy 😆
No pun intended

badz14935d ago

Yoshida for President! Jim Ryan was and always be a hack! Sony should get Shu back

Lightning7735d ago

All the gamer/consumer lead heads are gone across PS and Xbox. shuhei gone phil's gone (questionable) but gone. The future of gaming is somewhat uncertain across the board.

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