isnt epic about due to reveal some info on the next unreal engine? Maybe gears 3 will be using unreal engine 4?

Scratch that last part. I just read UE4 is not coming till 2012. Hopefully Gears 3 comes out before then with some of the UE4 stuff to whet the appetite.

I think the even bigger selling point of UE3 is that it's cheap. How much would it cost a developer to license CE3?

Its just sad to think that games could have looked like Cryteks technology, if developers spent time. Its running on the 360's hardware, as well as the PS3. The Unreal engine and the Source engine are old engines folks. Thats why you don't need super beefy computers to run Multiplatform titles, no, you need 5 year old techonlogy that ran the game higher than consoles can run them today, to play these titles.

I doubt Cryteks technology will get the support it deserves because of how moronic the industry is. Epic is a big player, and they aren't going to let obviously better & easier technology get the best of them. Every copy of underwhelming engine game x that sells, is a nail in the coffin for this type of tech. I doubt we will see many Crytek engine games in the future. The talent pool just isn't there. People have been making low polygon garbage with terrible textures for the unreal engine this entire gen, now you're going to tell these people to make Crysis\Uncharted2 quality assets for EVERY release? and multiplatform, restricted to a dvd? ha.. right.

Thank god I don't have to rely on multiplats for actual good visuals & gameplay.

Thank god.

This is the first generation that progress is actually shunned. If idiots really believed graphics don't matter, none of us would have bought the "next generation" of console games that had last gens benchmarks.

is trying to sell a product. NOT stagnate the industry.

They have an engine to sell. It is popular. They keep working in improvements, but you can only mod an engine so much. It's definitely not the best engine out there, but why does it need to be? Crytek pulled off some incredible feats with cryengine3, they should be commended. Epic should not be reprimanded because of Crytek's good work.

UE4 will be HUGE, but not due for years.

1. It's not like Crytek's engines are known for their efficiency.

2. This is an Apples/Oranges comparison, especially considering the UE3 is a current version of an existing product that has been deployed in hundreds of products and the CE3 is a cutting edge technology prototype that has not shipped in a single product, yet.

I should certainly hope CE3 would look way better given these points.

Gears is an Epic Games franchise. so...you would expect them to use their own engine for that! it's also part of promoting the engine to the masses. news flash...Gears 3 will also use UE! just the matter of UE3 or 4 but still UE!

@Kigmal:

They don't have a single flat rate for licensing on the CryEngine.

They review your application, and judge how much they would want you to pay based on the information you've given. That way small developers can license it also.