Lol Valve.

A game developers primary objective is to sell as many games as possible so he is right, its definitely a mistake they are missing out on big sales.

but they have no talent.
left for dead is fun, but is it an amazing experience?, no...

i think portal 2 would be good on ps3, but if not, its ok, i dont mind, millions wont mind, just saying what grudge do these guys have? and since the ps3 is the best hd consol on the market there missing out alot, but im pretty sure they have an exclusive deal with ms. now if valve was as talented as nauty dog, we'de be in deep trouble.

Game Newelll Oink Oink oink

Fatso say no to PS3 not enough time left over to eats.

It's not just a mistake to not develop for the PS3, but just stupid when it comes to business and making money. Either way, I don't know if I would be inclined to support them with people like Gabe Newell on their payroll unless they were to come out of the gates with something supremely impressive.

For once, the guy's right. First class developer avoiding something that isn't 'easy'.

Pachter knows this from his work as a publisher/developer.

You think PS3 owners are losing sleep over Valve not liking the PS3? Haha, Valve is the one losing out, not PS3 owners. PS3 does not need Valve.

i always say that Valve games are ment to be played on the PC, but i also think its dumb for any big time developer not making a game on as many platforms as possible. unless Sony or Microsoft are paying for the game to be exclusive.

They're usually comparable in America, and any deficit is more than made up in Europe, where PS3 dominates Xbox 360 to an insane degree software and hardware wise, and to an even greater one in Japan, if the game has Japanese appeal.
Outside of the CoD series, and Bethesda games (which have "exclusive" 360 DLC (for a limited time)), games sell better, or make more money for companies on PS3.

maybe would be good but its been a long time now. the bad taste made me lose interest in their games now i couldnt care less if they did make games for ps3 im enjoying exclusives more than multicrap games. valve can stay where they are

PS3 development is vital for any good developer, 7 Core multi core programming is a stepping stone to future multi core CPU's designs. PS3 is too good a revenue source to pass up, no piracy is a plus point. Even 'Valve' is making a U-turn.

Jump Out, Play B3yond

MOVE over LAGTAL

There's Infinity Ward, Criterion, Bioware, those are real good 3rd party developers, I don't see any sign that says "PS3 is a waste of everybody's time" in them, because they seem to know how to develop games for it... I think Valve are being lazy or doesn't have better talent than those developers.... I never liked their games by the way, but I think they should better move on because all they do is FPS games, why not racing, fighting, RPGs, or strategy, Portal is different of course, but the style is FPS!!!!

I think valve are not as great as some make them out to be. This generation I respect insomniac, guerilla and bungie more. Valve games just are not reaching uncharted levels in terms of class or technical performance. There games feel more like cash earners until the new half life comes along. I havent seen anything from them thats worth the praise they get. Thats why im more jealous of games like alan wake that really ooze class rather than some of valves games. Some may criticize me for having high standards but after playing games like uncharted 2 and Gow 3, i fail to see why I should want to play a valve game when I can clearly see a lack of effort from them to put half life quality games.

Tried to hold my tongue but not sure how many people realize Valve is not that great at making a variety of games. Half Life was basically their shining star, a true testament to tech advances back in the day. Past that Valve has not really done much else as note worthy.

Portal, Counter Strike, DoD, (plus more) were all created by other teams that at the time DID NOT work with valve. Their greatest successes are based off other peoples talent using their engine.

Left 4 Dead, IMHO...sucks. Its a marketing fire, built and supported by people wanting to play with their friends so they buy what everyone else did.

Steam: prime example of their focus on the business side instead of development side. (Business is great, but $ alone don't make games)

Agree or Disagree, Valve has never been a well rounded developer. They are currently stuck feeling the pain of no longer having the leading engine. So either they update Source Engine or they abandon development.

valve isnt the same valve they used to be. counter strike were the days i enoyed. if anyone talks about left for dead to me i think it should of just a been a downloadable game just like battlefield 1943. very low tech

Too much chaff coming out of Valve these days, the world didn't need 2 Left 4 Dead games, it really didn't.

Valve do make good games, but it's been a while.

My fellow Sony gamers, the biggest benefit of developing a game for the PS3 is simple: A game made for the PS3 means it was made for the classy, mature, and intelligent gamers aka the Sony gamers. Anyone who simply wish to develop for the 360 risk of being labeled of only making a game for the mediocrity minded. The vast majority of 360 gamers are not known for their intelligence, especially when they consider Power Ranger rip-off games to be "the best gamez EVA!" The 360 fanboys' stupidity is so shocking that it shouldn't be no surprise they only enjoy trigger-pulling games!

In short, if you're a developer who sees videogames as cerebral, interactive art and/or high quality forms of entertainment, then make games for the Sony console. If you're a developer with piss-poor skills so bad that even Stevie Wonder can make better games than you, then financially you are better off with the 360 console!

Sony Gamers Lead the Way!

I don't hate valve games.

I'm not a tf fan, nor portal.

I bought the first hl and continued to play the newer games, and i would love an halflife 3.

Considering the graphic cards about now and the newer tech, not to mention the cores etc.

The games should look alot better now, not on 360 though.

FF 576p
SCC 576p

Noticing a trend. up the graphics and it's dropping the rez.

Now i know that MW2 could run at 720p @ 60fps on PS3.

After seeing what GOW3 pulls off.

Valve are hack developers.

The didnt even make their best game (Portal) as far as i'm aware. They brought it didnt they? Off some kids?

Put it this way. I haven't gamed on a PC for years and the Source Engine was old news back then. Gabe needs to eat less burgers and think about doing some work.

I think of them as a smaller, more useless Activision.

I could give two sh*** about valve.

'HipHopMichaelPachterShow'??? ;-D

+ Don't worry PS3 Fans(not that we are worried anyway)the SCUM-SUCKING-VERMIN who slag off the PS3(i.e Valve, Epic etc etc)will be BEGGING to have some of the PS3's erm PIE!!! ;-D

I think its a mistake for valve not to develop for PS3. First of all, yes PS3 is a total different architecture from what they are used tom but if other "lesser" developers can make games for it then why can't Valve. Secondly, I do now they may have to tweak their engine and do a lot of brand new coding to port a game into ps3 but a lot of their assets and all of their game design have already been created for the 360 and the PC versions. So making a ps3 version will just open up another source of revenue stream, that is no their at the present.

Almost all the major 3rd party developers develop cross platform and make money from it so there is no reason to say that valve won't make money from it.

Tbh idc what valve does they make games for the ps3 cool if not oh well life goes on there are plenty other developers out there that make awesome games for the ps3. Besides on both sides the sales argument are made for flame wars and flamebait tbh nobody really care for sales people just throw it out there to shut the competition up to defend there console and honestly i don't really blame them. You bought your product and your entitled to defend it since its your decision you think console war is bad HA! Go on youtube and tell the apple iphone fanboys that the google nexus is better and they will get roid rage on their keyboad.

you can't deny the fact that they are one of the greatest developers of all time wether you like them or not. Valve not being on the ps3 is a loss for ps3 owners. Portal 2 is going to be another kick a$$ game that unfortunately might not be gracing the ps3. There's always p.c though for those that really want to play their games.

This guy must be getting so sick of being wrong all the time with his random predictions that he's decided to start stating the bleeding obvious instead.

that's why you don't see any ps3 fanboys in here trashing them and acting all butthurt about them not developing on the ps3. They simply can't be bother with valve staff.

It's more of a loss for ps3 owners than to valve since valve is doing fine without them just as they were doing fine before the ps3. It can't hurt to have the extra sales but than again i dont have any shares with valve.

Can't wait for portal 2.

Halo nuff said

You have less restrictions. *cough m$*

Valve and Gabe Newell can go Fuk Themselves!

They don't want to innovate in my opinion. Dont want to take on challenges. Instead they want to stick with the familar and the easy. I am not talking about the quality of their games, or how enjoyable they are. (The orange box was good on the 360, expecially Portal)ButI am talking about the capabilties, willingness, and enthusiam as developers to try and take on "new" things. Look at how the PS2 made so many companies a success... (CAPCOM, Square Enix, etc) It was the console to be on. Now these companies have sort of turned their backs on Sony. Favouring the 360 in many decisions. These same decisions that would actually work in favour of PS3 sales and experience offered from the console. PS1/PS2 gamers you will understand.

I have a 360, but I disagree with leaving things out because they can't fit on a DVD , and then selling it as DLC. Or not making an effort because something might be harder or seena as more challenging. Look at what so many developers have done on the PS3 in its third year. Compare this to the PS2 in its third year and you will see what I mean.

I hate Valve and all the nonsense that FAT fuk Gabe Newell brings forth from his a$$ mouth. As a result I can only attack when this company or that fat guy's name is mentioned. I apologise for my language but not my Valve hate. I have stopped supporting thier games all together. I don't mind if they stay exclusive to the 360. However they need to stop talking crap.

I wanna punch Gabe Newell's tits with the Playstation Move. So life like

Ehh Valve to me though cannot be called developers because they whined about the ps3 being to hard to develop on really. Valve was fantastic last generation not this one. Not even because they don't develop on the ps3 its the fact they cryed about it and never tried any game for it so they fail imo. They shouldn't be called developers seriously. Most companies are trying their best to get used to the ps3 architecture so whats stopping valve ? Oh yea low budgeted games they make just to make a profit oh yea i forgot.

Pachter is losing it, Valve may develop on the PS3 in the future

Valve has always been about bringing great game experiences (even though the fanboys think otherwise)

Half-Life changed FPS and Half-Life 2 was the first to bring physics into FPS, most games still don't do this (COD: MW2).
Team Fortress and Counter Strike have been the Benchmark for online FPS and
Left 4 Dead is a completely new look on Zombie horror games

Just because Valve don't make games for the PS3 does not mean they are sh!t, That is the same as saying if Killzone 2 does not come to PC Guerrilla Games is sh!t come on

It would not be cost affective to develop for the PS3 unless Sony were to help them and besides they have tons of work bringing the new content such as:

Left 4 Dead 1 & 2 (The Passing)
Team Fortress 2 (Updates)
Portal 2
Half-Life 2: Episode 3

Valve is the Kingpin of PC and they only make 360 version for the money.
All DLC Valve has made on PC has been free and they always side with the community over corporations (Microsoft Xbox 360 with DLC is the only exception)

The orange box sold 500k on the ps3, a million on the 360 and double the amount of sales of both the console versions combined on the pc. Now don't get me wrong ps3 is the best console out there hands down. And games do sell on the ps3 as has been demonstrated with new ip's like heavy rain and uncharted. But from valves perspective, the ps3 might not be that profitable. Maybe their games don't cater to the ps3 crowd. Hence the obvious absence of portal 2. But that does not mean that we should demean the games valve has made. I mean come on, TF2 is probably the best multiplayer game ever. Agreed l4d is for casual gamers. But its mindless fun. Much like what serious sam was. Those games have their place and should not be compared with the hardcore games.

That I could care about.

I don't care if they make games for PS3.STEAM and PC gaming for life.

I guess pach finally stumbled on to something that might get him some love on N4G.

I swear to god, I think there's about 7 or 8 people on this site with multiple accounts and they make nearly all of the posts on N4G. The stuff in here is just so predictable.

wouldn't you want to explore the PS3's hardware? I have yet to see a console multi-plat match uncharted 1 graphics...and that game is OLD!

Again with these Valve will not for PS3 who cares my PS3 runs great with out their games and if they like to sell the game on two platforms all the power to them. They could not take the challange if I dressed a PS3 as a Big Mac and gave it to Gabe as a present.

I've always stated that if Valve are as good as many think they are then they should develop for the PS3. But what else is new?

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Never understood playing games on my pc .keyboard and mouse , ouch just plain retarded . sorry pc gamers how i feel . If valve drop a ps3 game i wouldn't even touch it . multiplatform equals crap ...

crappy game come from poor skill devs like Valve so it's exactly unnecessary.
fxck off valve.

Tell me again how the multiplatform strategy was supposed to fix everything. Look at your results and compare them to Nintendo, which keeps thriving with exclusives. Your loyal fans are gone. And let’s not forget the pile of IPs you purchased only to let them rot.

The worst thing is this is down from last years numbers/expectations which was down from the previous years numbers/expectations. You think about how long “down” has been a consistent part of the communication and you realize those subscriptions are what’s holding that boat together. The price cut of gamespass is still a price raise in a string of price raises. They are trying to use players to offset the missing revenue. Now call of duty is out of gamespass, which is literally WHY they bought the company. To draw people to the subscription. They realized they missed a boatload of money and that wasn’t sustainable. Now you pay for it like you would have if they never bought the company… so why buy the company? Mind you those billions still need to be paid back. Yeah it gives you a chance to say we make the biggest FPS… but the internal conversations must be brutal at high level on topics that really matter. Like revenue. Profitability. And ROI for the shopping spree.

Is this like the 10th quarter in a row they're down 33% on hardware how is that even mathematically possible. You would think their mediocrity would Plateau