@ vulcanproject - it depends on how strongly you feel about the issue. I would stay clear of the PC version completely, there will be no "noticeable" differences graphically and there are no PC specific enhancements. This game is a straight port through and through.

Now if you are thinking about getting it on the Xbox then essentially you are just rewarding Ubisoft for crapping on the PC. The ideal solution would be to wait till the game is second hand and then purchase it that way. By going the used game route you ensure Ubisoft doesn't get any of your money. However it is up to you on whether you feel strongly enough about this to do it. What ever you decide I suggest you steer clear of the PC version it is going to be an absolute mess.

I like the idea of buying secondhand. The PC version is shocking. I will probably just wait it out and see for a few weeks how many activations the Pc version has too, and maybe if i have a friend who has it buy it off them and transfer it.

I really want as little of my money as possible in ubisoft's hands regards this.

So you can play a demo on your x360 and you are not banned? REALLY?

If you play pirated games you can't play online, which is a big deal, and that's why piracy isn't a huge problem for the x360.

Half a million 360 consoles were banned just before christmas last year. Piracy is very much a problem on 360, thats the half a million microsoft could detect, there are plenty still out there invisible.

Most pirates dont get banned and then suddenly decide go back to legit gaming, behaving themselves after a slap on the wrists. No, pirates are habitual offenders, looking to find the next way to exploit their machine of choice. Those banned for 360 still realise that the hundreds maybe thousands of dollars or pounds they stole worth of games pales next to the price of a new working 360 they can resume their nefarious ways with- as 360 gets cheaper and circumvention gets more advanced online bans will become less and less of a deterrant.

If they were banned they won't be able to play this demo, and they won't be able to use most of the features on this game or any other game with the online function. They will need to buy another x360 and the original copy of the game, and this title (SC: Conviction) has a lot of good online functions. You won't lose anything playing the pirated version on your PC.

Case solved.

"If they were banned they won't be able to play this demo, and they won't be able to use most of the features on this game or any other game with the online function. They will need to buy another x360 and the original copy of the game, and this title (SC: Conviction) has a lot of good online functions. You won't lose anything playing the pirated version on your PC.

Case solved."

Still doesnt stop hundreds of thousands of people, probably millions running pirated software on modded 360s. The proof is there for all to see from microsofts own actions and the vast array of ripped 360 games. You just didnt read my reply to your original statement above did you? About the banning and costs and such? Pirates are cheapskates. Why would a pirate care so much that they could lose 150 quids worth of console every so often when they have stolen dozens of games worth ten times that at retail....knowing the consoles are also getting cheaper and harder to detect online as time passes.

Dont tar Pc gamers with the same pirate brush, and dont assume that a mere online ban is enough to deter most pirates...clearly it isnt

the demo is exclusive?

"Still doesnt stop hundreds of thousands of people, probably millions running pirated software on modded 360s."

We are talking about a game with a lot of good online functions here, and you can't use these functions if you are using a pirated version of the game.

No demo for pc? What are we, second class citizens who don't get dedicated servers and now this?

I won't buy this game knowing that Ubisoft does not repsect the pc gamers.

I think I'm going to take your recommendation and cancel the order and see how things pan out. I may just end up renting this one. I do hate that they are treating the pc community this poorly. But in general Ubisoft has really been making some poor calls lately. I'm just glad Valve and Dice are still giving us the hook up.

If there was a thumbs up emoticon I would do a shed load of them now. A wait and see policy is the best course of action especially with Ubisoft titles at the moment.

As far as I am aware there hasn't been a single preview of the PC version which doesn't bode well for a starters. Now couple this with the "no demo" which I am sure is down partly to "costs" but it does come across as "we don't want people to know just how bad this game is on the PC".

If I am wrong then it just means a slight delay in you getting the game. However if I am right then you get to save a bit of money.

There are so many good games on the Pc out in march. Why care about this DRM infested crap.

My puchase list for march:

BC2
Dawn of war 2 chaoas
Dragon age awakening

Other games out:

C&C 4
metro 2033
Justcause 2
Supreme commander 2

*note i didnt include any ubisoft title in the list

I dont see why PC gamers should bother with Ubisoft when so many games are out. Also worth a note is that, what has Ubisoft done this generation? their games have been repeatfests at best:

Farcry 2: repeat fests same 4 missions across the game
AC1: same as farcry 2
AC2: slightly more refined but still a repeatfest
Prince of persia: repeat the same dam missions.

i dont see anything creative from Ubisoft so far this gen. Remind me why should PC gamers care about this company?

I do think ninja gaiden 1 and 2 are better than souls games, but they aren't even comparable

Again. Why'd you pick BB?
Ninja Gaiden has ninja dog mode = easy
NG2 has a jump and block button
BB has none of those.

You could've picked a Devil May Cry or Bayonetta game. They're more similar to NG2 than BB.

What does PS3 have to do with this announcement? Your insecurities are showing.

And Forza is Better than MARIO Kart!!!!!

See how stupid that sounds?