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SOCOM 4, played with PlayStation Move: our thoughts

We played with the PlayStation Move at the party last night, but at Sony's more intimate gathering at the W Hotel today it was easier to get a better picture of the peripheral. The main games on the floor were interesting, but the game we wanted to play? SOCOM 4, with the PlayStation Move.

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saint_john_paul_ii5790d ago

Positive Move News for the Hardcore gamers??? REJOICE!!!!

WildArmed5790d ago

The only thing i'm VERY happy about it the dual support/
If i dont feel like using PSmove, i can kick out my DS3 (which i love very much!)

rroded5790d ago (Edited 5790d ago )

"Aiming the crosshairs with the Move worked well, and I didn't feel any lag. While I was new to the game, the firefights and encounters were a blast with the controller; there is something much more satisfying about aiming at the screen with a controller instead of moving an analog stick. This is a controller that's ready for more mainstream use in shooters, and the fact that Sony already has a high-profile release that uses the technology so well is heartening."

amazing natural lag free gameplay that improves on the ol dual shock omfg

jus wait till we see what else is coming for the hardcore XD

Army_of_Darkness5790d ago

The MOVE is gonna separate the scared, shaky armed girly boys, from the steady armed men!!! ;)
This Move controller will prove who has the real head-shot kill skills!

beardpapa5790d ago

There's a difference between no lag as stated by Ars and the "lag" that IGN reported. Apparently, IGN doesn't understand that a hold in the Motion Fighters tech demo is akin to a hold in any other game where interaction is at a minimal hence no 1:1, e.g., pressing O/B to hold an enemy and mashing X/A to continue attacking during the hold. Of course, IGN interprets this as "lag" and not as a design issue.

ThanatosDMC5790d ago

Looks like my right hand's gonna need a lot of practice...

HolyOrangeCows5789d ago

"Aiming the crosshairs with the Move worked well, and I didn't feel any lag. While I was new to the game, the firefights and encounters were a blast with the controller; there is something much more satisfying about aiming at the screen with a controller instead of moving an analog stick"

I want to see Move do what Wii failed to do: create several awesome non-rail shooters.

FragGen5789d ago (Edited 5789d ago )

After reading this and seeing another GDC vid w SOCOM4/Move, this sounds like it s*cked donkey dong compared to a regular controller for this type of game.

Really this thing is going to hopelessly blow for FPS and TPS games. Sure it'll rock for golf games, but let's just stop trying to kid ourselves about this being all things to all gamers.

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hermie5790d ago

But at least Sony has the balls to show the tech around a good bit and let the media post videos and such of their individual experiences when playing it. Perhaps I haven't been keeping good track of current events, but MS seems to still keep info locked down concerning Natal.

The Wood5790d ago

psygnosis + amiga = win

you also make a great point. I dont think natal will be able to replicate the level of gameplay shown WITHOUT some kind of controller. The tech isnt available for the price their touting plus they've already had to remove things from natal just to keep the price reasonable. E3's gunna be very interesting

unrealgamer585790d ago

I don't know if it's confirmed or not, But I hope modnation racers will be using this.

Also how sweet would it be if EA patched fight night round 4 for motion control.

WildArmed5790d ago

why would they do that?
When they can just make Fight Night 5 and yell out MOTION GAMING SUPPORT lol

I mean it'll sell, so i dont see them going back to patch many games that may hurt potential future games

TehSuperCell5790d ago

Wow. Did Sony just allow a fps to suck? I mean, It would be unfair for the DS3 users who dont own a MOVE. This is kinda like a PCvsConsole, in witch its Mouse vs Analog.
Yeah, MOVE has a negative effect on us gamers. Except the fanboys.

tripewire5790d ago

Here's a hint....

READ!!!!

Move is supported, not mandatory.

<shakes head>

jjohan355790d ago

tripewire, apparently you did not read his comment. He did not state anything about what is mandatory or not. He is concerned about any unfair advantages that would be given to the sony move players against those who do not own one. Since it's not mandatory, that would mean matches would consist of some players having the sony Move while others do not. I think it's a valid concern, although I don't think it will be a serious problem.

KarateExplosion5790d ago (Edited 5790d ago )

Then you would know hardcore pc gamers rock a $130 mouse for sensitivity and $50 mousepad to control it and $100 keyboard with ammo stats built in... also $350 vid card for more fps and a big monitor with 1920x1080 res to see that pesky sniper..... Get real and find a better argument. If you want the advantage pay the money... Thats how it is on every system.

Abriael5790d ago

The only ones actually complaining about people using a different controller are the ones who like to moan about nothing.
Everyone will use the control scheme that feels the more natural to them.

I don't moan at people when playing forza 3 because the guy that passed me was using a 300 dollars fanatec wheel with manual stick, pedals and clutch and I'm using a normal controller.

In console FPSs nowadays, there are already plenty people that use several implements like the fragFX that gives them a mouse and a nunchuck-like thingie. It's not the only one. Are you going that cry because the guy that just fragged you might be using something like that?

When Razrer release their new 360 controller that allows more precision and a lot of little useful advantage, are you gonna cry about that as well?

Grow up a little, there always will be people using different control scheme, whether Sony adds a new one to the PS3 or not.

PirateThom5790d ago

I'd hazard a guess, and knowing Zipper and their desire to try and maintain balance and the obvious advantage, it won't be supported online.

Abriael5790d ago

so they won't support 42 LED Tvs online as well? because you know, it's an advantage compared to the poor gamers with Standard resloution TVs lol.

BattleAxe5790d ago

Heres another hint, its not a FPS you f**k'n idiot.

Tony-A5790d ago

Where is this FPS you speak of.....?

Soooo many things wrong with your post.

xabmol5790d ago (Edited 5790d ago )

Why not just have a separate matchmaking? One for controllers, and one for the Move.

P.S.

Anyone else notice that TehSuperCell just admitted that the Move is better than a standard controller? xD

n00b troll is n00b! We can sense your jealousy! LOLOLOL!!!

Pennywise5789d ago

Wow... if you think motion controls are an advantage is stupid.

FPS... Why am I even responding to you?

sikbeta5789d ago

@Guys Replying to TehSuperCell dude

A Hint: He's Bungie = The Multi-Account-TROLL

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Ivan Drago IV5790d ago

a positive news report on the 'move' these "journalists" just dont get it, didnt they learn their lesson the first time around when they bashed the PS3 and said it was doomed and a failure? and they ended up getting major owned as the PS3 is now the console to own these days.

360 fanboys are acting like if move fails the PS3 will also fail, they seem to forget all the great 1st party games and 3rd party multiplats to come to the PS3 still.

PS3 has the upper hand now, PS3 has shown very effectively how 'move' can work with their hardcore flagship shooter franchise 'Socom' all MS has shown is break dancing and dodge ball.

ChozenWoan5790d ago

as well as the
Definitive Racing Simulation Game
of this generation.

Fall 2010 we know we have GT5, Soccom4, and 20+ PSMove games. All of that on top of who knows what E3 will bring. Not to mention the great year we are having so far with MAG, Heavy Rain, and FF13. With GoW3, Yakuza3, Mod Nation Racer, and 3D Dot Heroes right around the corner.

PS3
It
Only
Does
Too Many Games!!!

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SOCOM Confrontation, SOCOM 4 and MAG servers shutting down in January 2014

Original-Gamer.com: "Sony has decided to shutdown the servers for SOCOM Confrontation, SOCOM 4, and MAG in January 2014. SOCOM 4 and MAG were developed by Zipper Interactive while SOCOM Confrontation was developed by Slant Six Games."

Abash4567d ago

Very sad to hear, hopefully Sony continues SOCOM and MAG on PS4

BiggCMan4567d ago

MAG is not even too old yet, this doesn't make any sense. It's still fairly populated with the dedicated fans, even one of my friends recently got back into it. Hell even Confrontation has a pretty decent sized dedicated player base, I think only 4 is pretty deserted.

This really makes no sense, the games aren't old. They better be making new games in the future at least.

HammadTheBeast4567d ago

Come on now, MAG's pretty old, their new console is coming out, and there's only about 5000 individual players coming on every month, if that.

It's run its course, a fantastic game while it lasted. Hopefully, we can get a few massive battles in before the servers close, knowing the community, I expect it.

Also, a lot of MAG is on Dust 514 now, which isn't amazing, but is still alright.

kwyjibo4567d ago

It makes sense.

MAG is no longer selling, so Sony is making no money from it. In fact, it's costing them money to keep it alive.

Maybe with PS4 pay-for-online and microtransactions (read: ongoing support), you'll get a better service.

decrypt4567d ago (Edited 4567d ago )

@HammadTheBeast

"Come on now, MAG's pretty old"

No it isnt, you want really old check out:

Warcraft 3, Starcraft 1, Counter strike. Then tell me why those games are still running?

Sony closing servers to older games is just a tactic to force users on board their next console.

Its the nature of console gaming, too controlled with console gamers having little to no rights at all. Hell if Sony closes PS3 online services after PS4 launch there is nothing console gamers can do about it.

JAMurida4567d ago

MAG is barely alive now these days. Domination is only playable early AM hours (CST) when the JP players get on and that only last a few hours. Only thing going on is Sabo or Suppression.

Lucky to get an Interdiction or Acquisition going.

Utalkin2me4567d ago

Kind of ironic i recently put mag back in and got all the updates and restored all my skill points. And OMG i could not kill anybody for nothing, it was quite weird. I used to be beast at that game and i went negative for a few games before finally i quit. Felt like i was doing worse for the team then helping.

It wasn't very populated then, but hate to hear that.

BattleAxe4567d ago (Edited 4567d ago )

H-Hour is the new Socom. You can still support the development studio by way of Paypal, and you still get access to all of the Kickstarter rewards, but only until the end of the month.

http://sofstudios.com/index...

H-Hour is set to come out on PS4 and PC.

Corpser4567d ago

@all

MAG was released in 2010, just 3 years ago! You're telling me I should expect online servers to be around for just 3 years?

GasTankKiller4566d ago (Edited 4566d ago )

"It's still fairly populated with the dedicated fans."

You only see one side of this. Sony sees the stats of how many players are playing on average. No reason to waste server power for a handle full of people. Yes that handle full could be a few thousand but still.

From what I remember during MAGs development. Zipper was given a blank check and setup a server farm for MAG.

No reason to let all those servers go to waste. They will most likely use them for the PS4.

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GameCents4567d ago (Edited 4567d ago )

Where's the outrage? They effectively saying that you've been renting MAG all this time. Online only games shouldn't have their servers shut so soon.

HammadTheBeast4567d ago

There's about 200 people on at any time now.... and most from the free demo.

Corpser4567d ago

^^

So? You're perfectly fine an online-only game that people are still playing will be shut down

JAMurida4567d ago

#Corpser

Yes there is a community, but a very small one. It's the same case with White Knight Chronicles 1/2. Both MAG and WKC I've played heavy enough to say they had a very small community that most likely didn't warrant Sony paying the money to keep the servers going for any longer. It sucks, but it happens when it's a case like this.

If anything, I'm more surprised that MAG is being shutdown much later than WKC was. IMO, it should of been the other way around.

Sitdown4567d ago (Edited 4567d ago )

Haha, some have no clue of exactly what you just did there. Or am I reading too much into it?

No_Limit4567d ago

In other news, the 2007 X360 online only game, Shadowrun, is still playable on its online server. This show where the priority is for both companies when it comes to online gaming.

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Corpser4567d ago

MAG community is far from dead, why?

And no wonder GameStop has been selling the game used for $0.99. It's an online-only game too

fr0sty4567d ago

It's a shame, I enjoy playing MAG more than just about any other shooter out there. I know many do not agree, as it does have some very obvious flaws, but it's a gem of a game beneath them.

MidnytRain4567d ago

Whoa, a dollar?? Are you serious?

Gridloc4567d ago

That's the only problem I have with digital downloads and multiplayer only games. If they shut the servers down your screwed...

Ray1864567d ago

If it has a lan option you can always use x-link.

fr0sty4567d ago (Edited 4567d ago )

I would hope such a service would work for a game like MAG, enough of the community (that is already dwindling) would need to know about that capability, and actually be bothered to want to try using it in order for it to work. I think it's just going to kill the community enough to make the game unplayable, as MAG relies on very large matches.

SIRHC134567d ago

H-Hour. We need you. Deliver the tactical third person shooter goods that we deserve!

MoonConquistador4567d ago

And in a run up to a sequel they should be giving this game away free on PS+ at least, or just make it a free to play game. Its a game I always wanted to platinum but there are never enough people on for domination games etc

Great game though

MidnytRain4567d ago

I do think Sony is expecting PlanetSide 2 to fill the massive shooter niche.

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Former Sony Devs Join New Team

Announced yesterday, a couple of former Zipper developers are lacing up their boots again in preparation to begin working on new tactical shooter, Takedown.

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astroanthony4965d ago

Thoughts of new development team?

SilentNegotiator4964d ago

They're former Zipper employees.

Expectations at minimal, Captain!

SuperBeast8114965d ago

I was looking forward to that game but now that zipper is touching it? I dont know they been making crap for almost 10 years now Socom 1 and 2 are the only thing good they have done

JoeReno4965d ago (Edited 4965d ago )

i really disagree, Unit13 is still my most enjoyed Vita game yet. it was quite good, and I for one am glad to hear this news.

Sithlord-Gamble4965d ago

My thoughts exactly.

Unit 13 is awesome, and IMO MAG is underrated.

fei-hung4965d ago

I bought Unit13 on release but only started playing it yesterday. I cannot believe how underrated and under appreciated this game is.

This game is not only better than the likes of COD in terms of military shooter, but the stealth gameplay is beautiful! It's like MGS but with a more military feel.

SuperBeast8114965d ago

I dont have a Vita yet so I havnt tried it maybe I spoke too soon I was just really burnt by Socom 4 but Ill try Unit 13 when I have the cash.

ExposingLames4965d ago

i've learned this site is nothing but kiss asses and fanboys so I usually don't even comment anymore. I read the news and leave. Although your comment will be "disagreed" into oblivion it is 100% fact. Its also the reason ZIPPER GOT CLOSED DOWN. I'm sure the lower level workers aren't really to blame, but there is no denying their games and how bad they were and what they did to SOCOM. What a joke. Glad Zipper is gone.

dead_eye4965d ago

opinion can never be 100% fact.

ExposingLames4965d ago

@ dead eye. its not opinion it is fact. go search "sony closes Zipper interactive" it didnt happen because they were making great games.

xursz4965d ago

"Big Huge Games" got shut down as well (I hope they get picked up by a worthy publisher), yet KoA was greatly received. I personally think MAG is definitely underrated too.

t0mmyb0y4965d ago

There's a reason you have so many disagrees XD

doctorstrange4965d ago

"TAKEDOWN will be developed on PC as the lead platform, and then brought to consoles afterwards"

NYC_Gamer4965d ago (Edited 4965d ago )

I'm happy that Zipper developers found new jobs...

GamingPerson4965d ago (Edited 4965d ago )

PC is lead platform then consoles coming after.
so the tags are messed up.

I can't wait to see what David Jaffe does on pc unless it's a facebook game.

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UFreqTV's Episode 13 - 2011 Season Wrap up, Newb Tube and Ghost Recon Bullet Points

In this Episode, Jack is joined by Commander Claymore Fury via SatCom as they discuss the 2011 Tournament Season and what is in store for 2012. The Nuketown Hooligans bring a little Modern Warfare 3 Spec Ops tips and Lt. Leadhead brings us Ghost Recon: Future Soldier