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PlayStation Move Gimps 4-Player Support

Sony has just confirmed with us that PlayStation Move cannot support 4 players in its full configuration.

The complete experience of PlayStation Move requires two controllers per person, either two PlayStation Move wands or one wand and one sub (nunchuk-like) controller.

Our previous look was with the Wii MotionPlus, which clocked in at $80 per person to be fully equipped. That was $40 for the Wiimote, $20 for the Nunchuck and another $20 for the MotionPlus dongle. Now, you can get a WiiMote + MotionPlus bundle for $50, bringing the 1 person cost down to $70, factoring in the Nunchuck. For four people, assuming you didn't trash the bundled WiiMote and Nunchuck from your Wii console purchase, the cost would be $230.

Sonyslave35908d ago

It only does everything....nintendo does.

ryano232775908d ago

Sony have AAA games.

Nintendo has 1.

NateNater5908d ago

Nintendo and Sony are both successful companies. Sony saw how much the cheap little Wii sold. Now there is a massive Wii market.

Sony's new controller is very similar to the Wii controller. Thus, Sony can easily appeal to the Wii market with their new controller. The Wii needs some competition anyway. Its all just business.

Foliage5907d ago

XBOX 360: It only does microtransactions, if you get one of the minority that don't fall to RROD failure.

I can see why the 360 doesn't have any good catch phrases. Too disappointing.

Natal: You are the TOOL. Experience the PS2 leading edge technology.

Tony-A5908d ago

Yeah, let's have 4 people trying to squeeze in front of the TV and swing wildly....

Better off without.

Raf1k15908d ago (Edited 5908d ago )

From the article:
'Four PlayStation Move controllers can connect to a PS3 at one time (or two PlayStation Move Controllers and 2 PlayStation Move sub-controllers).'

The article states that a complete experience requires 4 people each using a dual controller setup.

As far as I can tell it can support four players.
The kinds of games that allow 4 player gaming are the kind that only require one Move controller (e.g. bowling or that silly painting game).
When it comes to games that require a either two Move controllers or a Move + nunchuk setup they are the kinds of games that will likely only allow for two player gaming (e.g. Motion Fighters).

So where's the problem?
Can anyone think of a game (motion specific) that would require four people to use a dual controller setup?

ChozenWoan5908d ago

My living room is only so big. I can't imagine a game that would require 4 people to use two PSMoves each that would be fun. I could imagine that after about 10 mins of that type of gaming that someone would be getting rushed to the minor emergency center to put their eye back in. Not to mention that there is only so much screen space on my TV. I've got a modest 37in and I hate to even share 1 pixel, let alone half or even 75% of it.

So as I stated before...
Not an Issue!

Now all the trolls can go back to pushing a hoop with a stick.

A stick.

whateva5908d ago

How about a 4 player boat rowing game when you need 2 "Moves" to row your boat? lol

is it sad that I only have 1 DS3 but I'm buying 2 Move controllers the day they come out?

speaking of boats ....

pixelsword5908d ago

1. Natal can only do one at a time from what I hear, so nuts to that.

2. How many people play four players at a time? You can go to youtube and see like... I can't even say, because I've never seen four people play at the same time since internet gaming got a foothold; two, yes; but not four.

If someone can find someone playing four players playing at the same time on a Wii/360/PS3 game that's not a promo clip, please post it, as I'm sure there's games out there that do, but I can't name them; I can't even find footage.

I'd appreciate it if someone found some footage of four player splitscreen gaming with real gamers and not some promo stuff.

Pillage055908d ago

Most likely not an issue. Most people who own 4 wiimotes only own 2 nunchucks mainly because of price and the fact that pretty much every 4 player game only requires the wiimote. And if I remember right the ps3 can have seven controllers hooked up(why they choose 7?) so you could have 3 people with both...and even one more with just the move.

BRG90005908d ago (Edited 5908d ago )

"Can anyone think of a game (motion specific) that would require four people to use a dual controller setup?"

A kart racer that steers with the joystick and aims and fires weapons with the wand.

An arcade-style brawler (think double dragon or castle crashers or ninja turtles in 3D) that uses the joystick to move your character and the wand to swing your weapon.

A doubles tennis game without WiiSports-esque auto move.

A split-screen shooter.

There are definitely plenty of reasons you would want to be able to do this. That it's impossible doesn't cripple Move by any means, but it's naive to claim there would be no use for such a feature.

lokiroo4205908d ago (Edited 5908d ago )

To quote another video,

"by the way this is running on the ps2"

Christopher5908d ago

I don't see the issue, honestly. While the Wii has a few, and that's very few, games that can support more than 2 players at once, the mass majority are 1 or 2 person games. There also aren't a lot of game that support 4 players anyway. LBP will only use one or two PSMove controllers and 2 dualshocks for 4 player, and that's about it for games that can be played with 4 players in one living room at the same time. Natal also doesn't support up to 4 people at once due to the field of action and limitations to getting 4 people moving around in it at once.

So, really, not seeing the issue.

mikeslemonade5908d ago

Not a problem since you can play online with more people. The Wii online however, is a complete hassle, so you pretty much have to fit 4 people to play 4 player games.

Rumor5908d ago

if they have to sacrifice and put a wire in, then so-be-it!!!!!
this is ridiculous!!

IHateYouFanboys5908d ago

@pixelsword,

Natal does 4 player motion tracking. this has been confirmed on many occasions.

shadow27975908d ago

The summary is from an entirely different article...

Which, by the way, seems to forget that there's a game included in that $100 bundle and thus completely miscalculates the entire thing.

pixelsword5908d ago (Edited 5908d ago )

Are you talking about the pre- or post-chip Natal confrimation?

Or even better, can you provide a clip that's an actual game being played and not a commercial/target render?

That's all I asked for, it seems that no one can prove or provide it, all they can do is hit disagree and think that's proof enough. I don't.

Now, I'm not doubting it, I just haven't seen it. I'm sure if it even comes out it'll be something lame like that stupid four people hitting one button target render, which is weak because that's no different than hitting a button on a controller; I'm talking like four people using their whole bodies. I'm not Nostradamus, but I predict you won't see that at E3.

Pocketaces1115907d ago (Edited 5907d ago )

If you're gonna make a stupid comment like that back it up as I agree never seen it once. Put a link or something in stead of a one word answer. I just did a google search and any comments are vague and unofficial at best so next time come with some fact man.

So it looks like Gientenemycrab did you're work for you but it only for a trivia game and that's the only way I see that happening which is no different with the move in fact there are probably more opportunities with move as you can point at the screen the trivia think was only working with a pad hitting motion the rest was voice recognition which ps3 can do I'm sure.

IHateYouFanboys5906d ago (Edited 5906d ago )

fine, since apparently im the only one who needs to provide evidence to support my claims in here, ill do the work for you guys:

1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

"The skeletal mapping technology shown at E3 2009 was capable of simultaneously tracking up to four users for motion analysis"

2. http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

"We can track up to four players in the same way we track controllers. Each individual player will be able to choose - do I want to bind with a controller, or do I want to bind with my body, or do I want to bind with both?"

3. http://games.venturebeat.co...

"It’s multiplayer as well."

4. http://kotaku.com/5279531/

"What I saw proved how clearly Natal was easily reading both my body and his as we both stood in front of the sensors. We appeared on screen as simplified, mutli-jointed stick figure skeletons within silhouettes of our bodies. It clearly saw us as separate people. There would be no problem, he said, for the system to support a game that let us play at the same time and track our movements separately."

5. http://au.xbox360.ign.com/a...

"This wire-frame system also allows Natal to recognize four players at once without getting overlapping limbs confused. "

i could go on and on, that was just a google search for 'natal multiplayer' - you couldve very easily seen all this for yourself instead of trying to raise doubts about what i was saying purely so you can make out that Natal isnt capable of doing multiple players at once.

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xTruthx5908d ago

You talking about a company who launched with a 700+ dollar console and still managed to become the 3rd fastest selling console, so I wouldn't worry about it

RememberThe3575908d ago

Sony just can't do anything right...

/sarcasm

rockleex5907d ago

Of all time.

Only behind the Wii and PS2.

Amazing isn't it? ^_^

prodg525908d ago

Instead of saying they messed up in the first article they wrote about it being way expensive, they put the blame on sony. Even though sony from the beginning said only 4 controllers could be used at a time. I knew this and I'm not even at GDC!

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot16d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle15d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7715d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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15 Years Ago, Mortal Kombat (2011) Saved Gaming’s Biggest Fighting Franchise

A brutal reset, a smarter story, and a return to what made it great—Mortal Kombat (2011) revived the series.

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italiangamer24d ago

"Gaming’s Biggest Fighting Franchise"

Press X to (seriously) doubt.

DarXyde22d ago

Underrated comment. I used to hate that game so much that any time my siblings asked me to play it, I just picked Hom and shut myself down mid-match.

Soy23d ago

And then MK1 killed it again.

DivineHand12522d ago (Edited 22d ago )

15 years went by so fast. I remember playing through the story mode at launch.

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PlayStation legend Shuhei Yoshida says Jim Ryan fired him because he didn't listen to him

Why did Sony push Shuhei Yoshida out of his role leading PlayStation's first-party games? He'd overseen some huge successes. Well, apparently, he didn't listen.

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Relientk7724d ago

Yeah I can see that for sure. Shuhei Yoshida should have been in charge not Jim Ryan.

Cacabunga24d ago

It should be free highway for him now.. but Sony are too stupid to see this, especially that moron Hulst

S2Killinit23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

Wtf why all that anger. PlayStation is dominating on every level. Besides I think there is a little more to hiring a CEO than just who is available. Its not like its a athlete your team wants to buy.

neutralgamer199223d ago

S2Killinit

live service failures, chasing trends, closing studios. yes dominating

Cacabunga23d ago

Sony is Dominating because competition is not existing. Compared to previous gens this is the poorest in terms of software offerings.

Last gen we got Uncharted 4 Lost Legacy and TLOU2 from ND alone.

This is so far a remasters gen, with no competition to lift up the quality

1nsomniac23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

..."PlayStation is dominating on every level"....

...Really???

PlayStation are soon heading into a new generation in the not to distant future. They currently have the worst customer satisfaction they've ever sustained as a company. The company is heading for a huge crash while at the same time they'll need to be planning how they are going to try and win back that favour and the build up to their new releases.

Yes financially they're winning but they're going to have to ride out this complete public corporate disaster. No one has faith in the company or the product anymore. They've damaged their public image so much this generation. Greed can kill anyone.

medman23d ago

Hulst is a disaster......

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blacktiger23d ago

He would've done the same thing and fire Jim Ryan and Shuhei would be the villain. Why?
Because Elite creates the narrative and distraction for gamers, users and citizens.

Outside_ofthe_Box24d ago

More confirmation that Jim Ryan is the culprit for what has happened to Sony. Hulst needs to go too. What sucks is that a lot of the good top heads at Sony are no longer there. I wish that guys that were forced out prematurely by Dumbo Jimbo like Shuhei and Layden came back.

robtion23d ago

Yep. Yoshida was responsible for bringing one of the best games of this generation to playstation (Stellar Blade). He is an actual gamer and is in touch with what gamers want (creative, fun games, not GaaS and agenda pushing). He also seems like a genuinely nice guy if you watch some interviews. Of course they got rid of him.

darthv7224d ago

Makes you wonder if MS even thought about hiring him after Phil and Sarah were leaving. He certainly couldn't make their situation any worse.

Agent7523d ago

Microflop. After Windows XP and Xbox 360, it all went floppy.

S2Killinit23d ago

Floppy 😆
No pun intended

badz14924d ago

Yoshida for President! Jim Ryan was and always be a hack! Sony should get Shu back

Lightning7724d ago

All the gamer/consumer lead heads are gone across PS and Xbox. shuhei gone phil's gone (questionable) but gone. The future of gaming is somewhat uncertain across the board.

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