IGN writes:
"During this afternoon's reveal of PlayStation Move, there were a bunch of demos. One after another, an oh-so-cute game that ranged from smushing flying insects to playing table tennis was showcased. Then, Motion Fighter came up in the rotation and the gathering was treated to watching a shirtless dude bash a biker's face in.
When I first started playing, I dropped my hands to my side to see if the shirtless man would, and he didn't. When I put the biker in the headlock and started punching with my left wand, maybe every third punch was registering as an elbow strike on the screen. It definitely wasn't one-for-one, and it was a bit maddening."
PSLS writes:
The PlayStation Move, which is set to launch this Fall, is going up against the likes of Microsoft's Natal motion camera for the Xbox 360 and the already majorly successful Nintendo Wii. According to this new trademark, it appears that Sony will come out swinging.
Looks great. Especially after seeing it in Butler's commercial:
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Am I the only person who remembers how much the Wii sucked after the first week and how much of a gimmick it was. Well I'm not going to fall for it again with the Move or Natal. Because jumping around like an idiot and shaking my hand like some one who chronically masturbates get old really quick.
Not a good game to showcase the potential of Move. Boxing games like this have to be gesture-based in order to impose limitations otherwise people would just do rapid hits wherever and the concept of block, dodge, and punch would be greatly skewed.
So, it's a motion game, but it's a type of motion game you could get on the Wii as well... just not in HD.
Anyway, it'll likely be a good casual game at the least, but hopefully they start putting out more info on integrating Move into third-party titles like Dead Space, Lost Planet, Prince of Persia, Red Dead Redemption, etc.
Oh, and _please_ do a Move update for Heavy Rain. I seriously hate six-axis QTEs.
@Pennywise: ***cgoodno, I disagree. These type of games with head movement and 1:1 punches where you can't just flail are the PERFECT showcase games for Moves potential. ***
They're not 1:1 punches. They're gestured-based punches that aren't thrown at the same speed as the user making the gesture. They have said this flat-out and haven't tried to make it look otherwise. It's part of what Move is capable of, but it honestly doesn't showcase something isn't already possibly on the Wii.
Also, it's not head tracking, but body tracking. It'll track moving from side to side and ducking down.
I'm glad you're happy about the technology, pennywise, but let's not kid ourselves about how some of these games are implementing only a part of the technology because doing full motion tracking at 1:1 just wouldn't make for a game that can account for all the variables or would have levels of difficulty that went from too easy to too difficult based on old school 'player reading' programming methods. Some games require defined rules and actions, this is an example of that.
@pennywise again: ***I see why you are saying the movement isn't perfect because it might be gesture based, but arms flailing wouldn't work at all. You need to have some form when you fight. ***
Not when your momentum/strength, follow through, balance/foot placement, etc. aren't being tracked in real time. With a 1lb. controller in my hand I can throw punches much faster but without any regard to any of the items I listed above. This is akin to people who play those 'find the differences in two images' games, where the person just clicks everywhere in rapid succession with their mouse to find all the differences rather than being limited to clicking a certain number of times or a similar constraint. The computer isn't going to be throwing more than one punch a second, let alone every 3 seconds. I can throw a lot of punches in a very short time and only one of them needs to register as hitting the in-game opponent so as to damage them or result in the opening of its defense for a follow-up punch.
cgoodno, I disagree. These type of games with head movement and 1:1 punches where you can't just flail are the PERFECT showcase games for Moves potential. I see why you are saying the movement isn't perfect because it might be gesture based, but arms flailing wouldn't work at all. You need to have some form when you fight.
I want to see the games you mentioned too, but this is not Wii boxing.
You're talking an awful lot for someone who has probably never even seen the controller except on YouTube. I don't suppose you can prove me wrong and give us some real first-hand experience on the peripheral, can you? I will retract my comment if so.
^What did he say that requires first-hand knowledge? I didn't know common sense required a list of references.
He's right, this is definitely not the game to show off Move with. In fact, it's probably the worst of all the games they've shown in that regard.
This game is laggy as hell
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http://crave.cnet.co.uk/gam...
http://gdc.gamespot.com/sto...
Did you play it?
Also do you realize what "Alpha Stage" is? It's roughly 20-30% done and you are going to talk about lag?
The lag is barely noticeable and Dr. Richard Marks told me that the latency has been reduced recently to 1 frame.
Sev dont bother responding to the retard, just post info like that in the article or open zone.
Dammit, why am I in the open zone? Did I get banned from the gamer zone or something? Or was this an accident?
Well PS3 fanboys have been raving about how laggy Natal is a year out from it's release but that's ok right?
Honestly, I've gotta agree.
This game isn't the best representation of what Move can do.
They should be using Socom 4 as a trademark, a game that actually tracks your Move controller responsively.
Or that sword/gladiator game...
lol natal has even more lag, and it's still present from the most recent video when the guy jumps, horrible lag, Natal is going to be a disappointment with 200ms+ lag
anyway like sev said this game is unfinished, and they can get any present lag reduced right down, just look at how fluid socom 4 is, I can't wait to play on both games
I've been waiting on something like this for a long time. I have a fighting background, I love to hit the bag, this would be just icing on the cake. Here's hoping they do it right. Oh and imagine if you could go online and fight, with the Eye you could see your real opponent, and it's just man to man. Maybe I'm asking too much though.
I have to admit that would really be amazing. I would love to throw down on the PSN really. That way if someone pissed me off for talking smack, I could ACTUALLY give them a beaten.
It looks to be gesture based rather than 1:1, which was the reason for the lag on the GDC demonstration (it has to see the full gesture and interpret it before it can start the animation). You might want to wait for the hopefully inevitable "Fight Night on Move" announcement.
TheFeed's Patrick Klepek previews two games for the PlayStation 3, Motion Fighters and Sports Champions, which both use the new PlayStation Move motion controls. Find out how both games utilize the new technology in this preview.
the asian guy looks hellla weak aha.
but i notice a little bit of lag in the fighting game. i hope they fix that. other then that this will be day one. i love the gladiator one. looks so dope.
The fighting game is a gestured based game not a 1:1 tracking. I think what your your seeing is the animation not completely matching what the person is doing because they are gestures and not 1:1. Still a work out though :).
The sword fighting game is 1:1 with the controller.
Kotaku: The game you see here will include a calorie counter. Lose weight by delivering a punch to the gut, followed by a head butt.
This is Motion Fighter, a motion-controlled bare-knuckle brawling game unveiled last week for the PlayStation 3's new Wii-style wand controller, the PlayStation Move. During an interview with Kotaku, Sony vice president of worldwide studios Scott Rohde mentioned that the game will include a calorie counter. "Based on your play session, it will tell you how many calories you've burned," he said. "There will be different ways to be working out with that."
Dancing games, namely, Dance Dance Revolution, have had calorie counters in the past, so this isn't unheard of. And, of course, Wii Fit has sold more than 20 million copies on the strength of the promise that a video game can make you fit. But the Wii does it with yoga, not with headlocks and head-punches.
I want to Play this game, calories? lol forget about that, the atmosphere characters and stuff fit really well for a Boxing Game, not like the other happy-fun-[?]-boxing-game
http://i42.tinypic.com/2rgn...
I have no faith in this product but hopefully they can get the problems worked out for the people who are interested in this thing.
Again, IGN proves that they are as ignorant as they are ugly. The game that was supposedly not registering 1:1 was a Heavy Rain type of game. Its called software. Its made to do what you want it to.
You could make the dudes arm go all the way down, but just like in Heavy Rain, why would you drop your hands while your trying to beat someones face in? Its not realistic. Just like it seems as unrealistic as the degrees that the IGN staff supposedly has. Where they go to community college?
Yeah fact is if you did it 1:1 you would actually have to punch with force so it would look good on screen and have impact, it would descend into b*tch slaps for most people lol, the movement looked great though the swaying was accurate so dodging is obviously 1:1.
Just watch the table tennis tho that is true to life control and it looks great.
This thing is very similar to the Wii. It is Wii for PS3 owners. They are directly completing with the wii. I don't see them beating the Wii unless they design some really good casual games. The tech is not bad. It just is too much like the Wii and the name is annoying.
IGN don't seem very impressed, but I am sure some one on N4G someone at N4g will be able to tell me if there are reliable or bias.
and they are calling it bad...???