I know 12 people with 360's and the only one who had the red ring tried to mod the machine to play copied games. So he deserved it.

If a fault is discovered and even if it is fixed. All the sony fanboys will continue to say that it exists

Feeling obliged to bash (make fun of) the competition is a major sign of insecurity.

Give me a break with the whole Sony fanboy thing.

This subject/topic has nothing to do with Sonyfanboyism. This is about the problem that real 360 owners are having and the fact that a company stopped entirely fixing a problem that exsists and is pointless to try to fix. Along with the fact that no one seems to care.

I have 21 friends with 360's in the DOminican Republic, all of them already experimented the red ring of death, some up to 3 times, I already had 2 dead X's. The sad news is that we can't send them for repair due to shipping costs and customs taxes, so we buy cores and sell the burned one for few bucks, for me the failure rate is 100%. The Xbox360 have design defects so sooner or later every 360 owner will wake up one day and see that their beloved machine is agonizing.

M$, the 360 is the Best gaming machine ever but i already invested in my 3rd. it is more that US$1,400.00 + shipping + customs taxes. So next time will be the PS3 (wich i dont like).

Right now only blogs and unknown media are the ones spreading this stuff.

My 360 broke and I ordered repairs and my wife is buying an elite for my B-day. I'll get that modded with a liquid cooling system so i do not have to worry about a system crash.

If the problem isn't as large as posted on this site it shouldn't be that hard for Microsoft too prove that the failure rate isn't as big as a problem. But if it's they should make further steps too insure the quality of the xbox 360's.
(as a side note my xbox 360 hasn't broke down neither has one of mine friends.)

The stories of massive failures with the 360 is false. Every console has units that fail and until Microsoft and other major chains give actual data on this, anything else is speculation, and I'm not talking about something you heard about some gamestop employee saying about how many units were being returned or what not, more than likely he is a fanboy for the other camp. I've yet to see ONE reputable news channel with a story about a massive amount of failing 360s, and trust me, this is something that the media would pick up in a heartbeat. But this story is like the whole story of Vince Mcmahon being blown up in his car and no one except the WWE covered it.........meaning it was b.s. And that fact was certainly verified when Chris Benoit, a 2nd tier wrestler murdering his family was covered by every news outlet in the world. Now, why would the "real" news cover a 2nd tier wrestler killing his family while not covering the prez and ceo of the WWE being blown up in a car????? The reason is that they know facts from fiction in that aspect, much like the difference between b.s. stories like most 360s failing and Microsoft's story of a low failure rate. I've owned over 20 360s and not one, even my launch unit has failed. And before you ask why so many units, needing money is the main answer. So please.

ps3 fanboys will be happy

to have a class action suit against microsoft, namely because they work so hard to give replacements for broken consoles

If the rumor is true, then Microsoft should fix the problem before it continues to tarnish Microsoft's reputation.

If this rumor is false, then Microsoft should come out and pursue legal actions against people or, company, that tries to tarnish Microsoft's reputation.

Either way, Microsoft cannot continue to say nothing and do nothing, because this rumor is spreading like wildfire and it's out-of-control.

It is too bad that the 360 is in the lead by 7 million consoles. This will not be enough to help the PS3 catch up. The are more new consoles bought in one month than repaired or crashed.

It took a year for this problem to start effecting the 360. What if the PS3 starts to have issues? What will you guys say then? Oh... thats right the PS3 has the biggest issue of all it is not selling.

=[ LOL

The issue of bashing 360 failures has become a popular fad that has been completely blown out of proportion. It has become fun to ridicule 360 red lights due to the desire for attention. The fact you hear about these problems alot is because their are 11 million or more 360's sold, and access to the internet of millions of people to thrive for attention.

When the ps2 had disc read errors and dvd infringement violations the law suits for the issues where limited to magazines (EGM, gameinformer, and gaypro...gamepro) and popular game websites like ignps2.com, gamespot, and official sony websites. Gaming has never received so much attention that it has in 06 and 07. People where actively ready to watch a war of 3 systems with a magnifying glass.

And, as people acknowledge ps3's lack of revolutionary graphics, and canceled or lost exclusive with the new format (blu-ray) sony promised people acknowledge the pretty red light of death on the 360 because the fact alone it has a vibrant indication of a fail and is mesmerizing to attention whining retards.

Seriously, whom would invest into 11 systems read between the lines people. It is a fad to complain about these issues and easy to blow out of proportion. I personally care not for sony game systems so all I see are it`s faults inversely a person whom cares not for micrsofts systems sees no good. An number of consoles sold and those returned. Microsoft doesn`t count backwards so thx for buying more than 1.

And to touch the issue of fanboyism we are all fanboys or fangirls for participating on this websites so shut that crap up. Seriously, look where you all are you are on a primary game website of all places. This isn`t CNN. It's a game headquarters for fans! Oh and this how you use one bubble lol.

Care about game consoles especially a game console like the XBox 360 infact they dont even care for PS3 or Wii they would rather have something that is worth there time to actually put down that is real news not some trivial thing like this about game console that breaks down 247 on everybody and plus even if you dont believe it I doubt that is 10% when it currently is more than that!.

Unfortunately, this isn't hearsay or propaganda. A lot of Videogame sites have reported that their very own 360's have gone the way of the red ring examples?

IGN - they have reported 9 of their consoles - http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/a...

C&VG - they reported 5 of theirs have gone - http://www.computerandvideo...

Click the links and see for yourself..

Now, I don't think they're lying and spouting propaganda, do you? If you do, you're clearly deluded. Sony had that laptop battery fiasco and they deserved the flak they got. Now it's Microsoft's turn.
There's no point in defending this very real problem, you'd just be lying to yourself. In fact, denying that the problem exists would be pretty moronic, think about it: You're really not going to upset a "PS3 Fanboy" by saying there is no problem. That person probably wouldn't buy a 360 even if there was nothing wrong with it so what are you trying to prove? All what would happen is that Microsoft will think their customers are happy and won't do anything in the long run, so if your Xbox360 gets it one day, you're screwed. That would make no sense to me.

This is topic becoming old, but it actually is a good thing because the more people talk about it, the more likely Microsoft would have to take action or face being tarnished with this reputation for a long time to come.

xbots is goin to say nothin is wrong and its thrown out of proportion..lol..no wonder microsoft dont give a $hit..lol..yay for you guys...

But in any case, x360 failure rate is much bigger then ps3, because, if ps3 would have atleast half failure rate as x360 has, then it definately would be on All internet sites.
x360 has a failure problem(even maybe very Small, but Has), and ps3 doesn`t. The end.

yes it is time for consumer action. im sorry but coming up with arguements like - i have owned a system since launch, or i know 50 people with xboxs and it has never ever broke on them once. this doesnt mean that there isnt a problem just because youve never experienced (ala global warming)
something definitely needs to be done regarding the failure rate, and it needs to be done soon...

is'nt this like the 10th article about the rings of death?.

okay we get it some 360s have hardware proplems now lets move on.

Going by these 'popular' stories, one would think the PS3 has 0% defective rates.

I have 2 360's. One is a launch console, the other I got last X-mas. The only red lights I see are traffic lights and Sony Fa6boys on this site as their avatar.

I wonder why no one wants to discuss the failure rate of the PS3? Why doesn't anyone talk about the 'mad siren'?

EDIT: @23.2 My eyes are open. And IF there's a problem, it sure ain't effecting ME. It only seems to effect PS3 fans...like yourself! I wonder why?

You PS3 fans really have it out for the 360. I wonder why????

then you also believe it's a viral marketing campaign by a competitor to tarnish Microsoft's reputation.

so, at this point, when the rumor is already spreading like unstoppable wildfire, you should actually DEMAND Microsoft to take actions.

because that will ultimately force Microsoft to take actions and look into the bottom of all this... which, if you really have faith in Xbox 360, will lead to legal action against its competitor.

And if this is indeed a vicious negative viral marketing effort, then when the truth comes out, it'll be the competitor that will pay the ultimate price in court. This kind of thing, if exposed, will crush and destroy a company that's already suffering financially.

So, as a 360 customer, you should be blasting Microsoft: "Why haven't you guys done ANYTHING about it? You should do something about it because it's getting out of control."

reason #124,375 not to buy an xbox 30%

this is the reason why i sold my 360 and will never buy one but if M's Fix this issue and make the online free i will get one.
But for now i PLAY BEYOND

You guys can do better, no what am I saying this is all you Droids can do and your PS3 is still getting it's ass kicked.

The world is going to end in the year 2000.

This article has some VERY good and valid points, including the common answer that why isn't there a Class action law suit, or why if there isn't a problem MS is increasing the warranty

I think a LOT of us should be worried as consumers (or future ones) and not enter a state of denial (like many here have) over the situation that is clear and present, its beyond a simple rumor or speculation, the 360 HAS a problem and blaming it on PS3 fanboys is not gonna make it go away

I use to love coming to this site but the extreme fanboyism is getting beyond ridiculous .we've had about 20 stories in the past 4 days about the 360 failure rate!! it that all you guys wanna post about, is that the only thing that makes you feel better about the PS3 compared to the 360. because really thats the ONLY thing you can complain about with the 360!! wheres the post about E3,games,graphic comparisons. seems to me all the sony boys wanna talk about is the failure of MS, so sony can rise back to the top!! well it aint gonna happen, keep dreaming an spreading FUD, maybe just maybe sony will be the leader again!!

an before you can me a fan boy!!

You Sony fanboys are getting out of hand i don't know if this sh*t keeps getting posted to spite or to win money but its destroying this site its like Saddam seeking urainium in the eairly 90's and Bush and pals pulling that info and saying its recent to trick the american public to support the war.

Everday somebodies going to look for flaim in forums to either spite the 360 or to try and start a bash fest to win the money prizes.

Fight back look in the pending sections and vote on the posted please lets work together to take the right of the contributor to post news if certain stories keep poping up with forum credibility.

Remenber you can control who's posting the same trash over and over again.

You even see people claiming that they use to own a 360 or was going to buy one when they're hardcore Sony fanatics this news pleases them its why they flock in these threads it comforts them with their purchase due to not being cofident in it in the first place it will never stop untill we control whats getting out of hand.

Stupid articles just to generate traffic. Same crap over and over. Never anything different. Cheerleaders need to find a new hobby. Maybe stop touching eachother over the hardware specs and realize that no one is talking about the PS3 except for PS3 FANBOYS online.

The overwhelming majority of casual gamers have no clue nor a care about games like Lair, Heavenly Sword, or other random titles that you PS3 fans are preaching about. It's going to take an act of God to put the PS3 back into this war.

Price drop?
C'mon that'll sh1t on Sony even more than it's being sh1tted on right now. And if theres a price drop, no doubt M$ will follow suit, putting the 360 at a sweeter price range, with a wealth of great titles in the library, it's pretty easy to see what console parents are going to buy for their kids. (I came to this conclusion bc I figured by this Xmas, everyone who wanted a Wii has one ;).

though i think you are taking it a little too far, you do raise a good point.

To get a lot of points and for your story to get hot, all you have to do is post a flamebait story.

That is quite unfair to the people who actually give a sh!t about this site like.

Sure you can post something that is controversial, but some of these are being posted just for the heck of it, just to get points. And many of these are duplicates.

That needs to change.

The xbox 360 hardware is a piece of crap. We all know it. The console was rushed to beat the PS3 and Wii to market. We all know it.
The Xbox 360 may now be in first place, which is cool, but Microsoft needs to get there hardware design of the Xbox 360 fixed, or its gonna hurt them in the long run.

this is the worst hardware failure rate ever and MS know it!

before and not even today. but the 360s have problems, Im glad I traded it in for PS3..... and the best part is that I will not have to pay for XboxLive anymore. ever.

True that.

Well I know My PS3 won't die anytime soon.... Cause I don't play it. My 360 went out once, I sent it in and got one back in a couple weeks. Since then I've had no problems what so ever. If it goes out again, I'll send it back again. It sucks, and I hear what everyone is screaming about, but 360 is too damn good to give up all together. My name is Groo, and I am a converted SonyFanboy, and also a 360aholic. As long as it works, I'm playing it.