"But you know what? That's not really a bad thing. Super Mario Galaxy is still the best damn game on the Nintendo Wii, so to get more of the best damn Wii game is still a wonderful thing indeed"

Although I must admit that in a way your right, its far from "lame"

Honestly, despite the fact that it didn't really live up to Super Mario 64 which was one of the bet games ever made IMO, its still a phenomenal game and probably the most pure fun I have had on the Wii, let me think... yep definitely most fun ( i have yet to play new super Mario bros wii)

As long as the game has extensive content, its worth far more than the price of admission for me

p.s. yoshi is teh awesome

''When something is already phenomenal, how much should it be changed beyond a few functional improvements? In fact, how much CAN it be changed without taking away from the greatness that is already there? ''

Mario 64 once was (and still is) phenomenal, it would be hard to imagine that another Mario game could improve upon it, but Galaxy did (in design at least.) Galaxy is a massive leap forward when compared to 'perfect' Mario 64. So it is not unreasonable to expect greater things than Galaxy in the future.

They already used the Galaxy template, its tried and tested, it works. We all know it works, so what is the point in using the template again? Wouldn't it be better for all of us to have a variation,rather than 'the same again.'

I might find this conveyorbelt attitude towards making a game acceptable for football games or fighting games, but adventure games? No. Its taking the adventure out of it and destroying creativity along the way.

''yoshi is teh awesome''

Did you play Mario Sunshine? Yoshi was a pain, a hinderance. I hope they at least make him maneuverable this time.

Dude, Mario is not an adventure game. It's a platformer.

A sequel to a platformer should have new gameplay elements(Yoshi looks sweeeeet), an increased challenge (reports say this game is even more challenging than the first), and most importantly a sequel to a platformer should have brand-new levels, and SMG2 not only has brand-new levels, but they look kick-ass.

Galaxy is a huge jump compared to Mario 64. But man, it took 11 years after Mario 64 to realize that kind of revolution. Good things take time. This time, I suppose a sequel to the highest rated exclusive this generation is just going to have to due. Now pipe down and enjoy it.

''Dude, Mario is not an adventure game. It's a platformer.''

Uh dude, it is an adventure game, no need to be pedantic.

I played a bit of Mario 64 yesterday and it is actually magical, timeless. If Nintendo had capitalised on Mario 64's success and decided to Make Mario 64 2 on the N64, i don't think it would have had the same affect. It would have taken away from the brilliance of the original.

Zelda: Majora's Mask is an exception, because although they re-used the engine of Ocarina, they created something so vastly different that it could be seen as a different game. The same cannot be said for Mario Galaxy 2.

They had the oppertunity to take Mario to a completely new galaxy (or even universe) with this game, but from what has been shown it looks basically identical to the first. Just think of all the alien places they could have taken mario to for this sequal, but instead he's in an identical looking galaxy presumably right next-door to the last game. Missed oppertunity.

Do you think ideas for a brand new type of Mario are not already being thought up?

There will be another generation of Mario that will probably find some way of being amazing that no one had thought of. There's no missed opportunity here.

In fact, this is an opportunity seized. If a game receives critical acclaim, everyone loves it and you have the chance to give them a solid sequel, then why not?

It would not have been possible for them to bust out something revolutionary so fast. You have ridiculous expectations. See the game for what it is: a sequel to one of the best games this generation.

Be thankful there's more solid software coming out for Wii. God knows it could use some more great titles like Galaxy. Geez, gamers these days. I've never before heard of gamers being upset over good games being released before

Yes, because graphics make a game and if a game isn't in HD my god its just lame! Look at all those lame games last gen and the gen before that, and the gen before even that one!

And for the record, yes MK is the best racing game this gen. When this gen is looked back upon years from now games like that, along with NSMB and Wii Sports will be the ones spoken of. not Uncharted 2 or Ratchet..Hell ppl don't talk about ratchet now, LoL.

@Spoony: LoL, definitely hasnt touched Galaxy and probably only seen youtube Vids of it.

You definitely haven't played SMG have you. Ratchet and Clank is pretty competent as a platformer (amongst other genres as well), but in all honesty it just doesn't stack up to the brilliance of Super Mario Galaxy, SMG has to be played to be believed, it's that good.

SMG2 is going to be awesome btw :)