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FF13 360 to use Bink for Cutscene Compression

The back of the box for the Xbox 360 version of Final Fantasy XIII has revealed that the 360 version of the game will utilize Bink video, likely for compression of the game's many cutscenes.

The Bink Video logo is displayed clearly on the back of the box. Bink have special video tools designed for the Xbox 360 and they have been used in RPGs such as Borderlands, Mass Effect and Square Enix's The Last Remnant. The Japanese PS3 version of FF13 did not use Bink.

The Bink webpage indicates that the codec will show 720p video. The Japanese PS3 version of the game had the game's 40+ minutes of FMV encoded at uncompressed 1080p.

AP5953d ago (Edited 5953d ago )

A lot of devs use Bink so it must be pretty good. Mass Effect uses it to great effect, same for Borderlands with the few cutscenes there. That said, 720 compressed isn't much on 1080 uncompressed...

darthv725953d ago

Bink was used in dreamcast cgi cutscenes as well.

Xwow20085953d ago

the beginning now a lot of Developers especially the jrpg 1s will start to make their games big with a lot of content with the best quality for both visuals and sounds.

I remember phil harrison said that developers will have to choose between dvd and blu-ray and he is right because developers wana to delver their games to consumers the way it meant to be.

AP5953d ago

It was, but Bink does technologies for just about everything - Wii, 360, PS2, Dreamcast... it does them for tons of hardware, gaming and otherwise. So it's not like FF13 360 is going to have Dreamcast quality compression or anything. It'll still be 720p and look good, I imagine.

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Blaze9295953d ago

I don't even have a 1080p set so I don't mind.

Obelisk925953d ago

I don't know if it's my TV, but some of ME2 cutscenes suck a$$ on my HD Ready TV, at res 720p. Some of them look washed up.

I hope it's not bink's fault.

JANF5953d ago

Its definitely your HD TV

Sarcasm5953d ago

"I don't know if it's my TV, but some of ME2 cutscenes suck a$$ on my HD Ready TV, at res 720p. Some of them look washed up.

I hope it's not bink's fault. "

Yeah I noticed that too. It IS the compression of the pre-rendered clips. It was the same for Gears of War 2. You have sharp and clear in game graphics, then once it switches to the Pre-rendered stuff you can see all the artifacts and compression.

Of course 360 fans will NEVER admit that it's there and say something like "but but but you cant see the difference."

IdleLeeSiuLung5953d ago

Even blu-ray movies use compression. Then again, if you want the "superior" version of this game, get it on the PS3. For everyone else, there is a choice.

... and I like choices!!!

MetalFreakMike5953d ago

@IdleLeeSiuLung

"Yeah, and the PS3 version doesn't use video compression?
Even blu-ray movies use compression. Then again, if you want the "superior" version of this game, get it on the PS3. For everyone else, there is a choice.

... and I like choices!!!"

Well I hate to burst your bubble but they even said Final fantasy 13 ps3 version uses uncompressed 1080p video.

"The Japanese PS3 version of the game had the game's 40+ minutes of FMV encoded at uncompressed 1080p."

I do think they use it for a good amount of ps3 games tho, but I do not think we will hear the end of this argument.

iamtehpwn5953d ago

You guys have no idea how GREAT the CGI scenes look on a 1080p TV uncompress. The quality is unreal, the CGI scenes exceed advent children by far. I'm a japanese importer and trust me, just knowing that these beautiful scenes will be downgraded in anyway is enough to turn me off of an Xbox360 version.

sikbeta5953d ago

@presto717

That's Never Gonna Happen simply cuz Devs will don't want to pay more Royalties to M$ for every extra Disk, SO quit stuff from the game and Shrink it or DLC FTL!!!

God, the Worst Thing is that Multiplat games will get F*cked Up for the 2 versions

Thank God The PS3 Crew Have First Party Games

AKNAA5953d ago

360 FF13 is still the way to go B1tches! Lol!... haaaah, I crack myself up sometimes...

Graphics5953d ago

damn, You say ME2 uses this? No wonder in the suicide mission when the CG is going on and even when you go through the mass relay everything look like sub hd sloppy unsmooth stuttering garbage, I thought it was maybe that I DL a bad copy but it wasn't that, cause when I saw my sis play her legit copy it was the same ugliness. Damn playing FF13 on 360 is gonna be terrible.... Maybe if this game is better than i expect Ill buy the ps3 version instead of downloading for 360.

Rush5953d ago (Edited 5953d ago )

Man its pathetic to see the comments above knowing none of them are interested in the 360 version anyway. There all just trolling about an idea they already share what's the point.

Every FF13 article has 90 percent posts from PS3 fanboys doing nothing but trolling. Its a little sad and pathetic but hey I guess there still butt hurt it went multi platform.

And yes I don't even play my 360 on my PS3 now, So I ain't a fanboy defending my console choice. Am a gamer defending my favourite game series from you bunch of idiots.

Disagree away.

Rampant5953d ago

If I recall correctly.

It began with Lost Odyssey? lol. 3 years later, 6 million ahead.

Traveler5953d ago

The difference in quality between compressed and uncompressed is often not as great as we would imagine.

If you watch the video I link to below you will see that compression often has nearly no impact on the image quality. http://www.eurogamer.net/ar... Read the article. The author gives some interesting information on this topic. He does note, however, that Bink is not the best encoder in his experience.

So, who knows how it will turn out. I'm just saying that compression doesn't automatically equal a noticeable drop in quality.

die_fiend5953d ago

Strange how it's mostly PS3 owners commenting on this. I didn't realise it affected them...It's embarrassing that despite it not affecting you that you'd come here 2 tell people how bad it'l be despite not ever seeing either version in most cases. And you talk about multiple discs being an issue? About 10 seconds for every 15 hours of gameplay? That's an issue. So what happens when you decide you want 2 change games? Do you get angry that you have 2 get off your lazy asses? If you spend so much time stewing over another console that you don't own, it's about time you understand that you're a retard

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densai5953d ago

guess ill enjoy my 1080p fmvs...

chidori6665953d ago

gimped graphics confirmed ( again)

Chubear5953d ago

Ahh, the Beta box please fix me: Gimp in; Pay beyond. The definitive gaming experience.

Bodyboarder_VGamer5953d ago (Edited 5953d ago )

I wouldn't be celebrating so soon knowing that the X360 it's easy to develop for and it actually benefits from PS3's more organized coding.

nightelfmohawk5953d ago

And surround sound, which the 360 version lacks as well.

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dirthurts5953d ago

I'm glad if they're compressing the video they are using bink. Great quality.
I wish they would just span it more disks though, and do compressed 1080p. I don't mind the disks. But this should be plenty anyway.

wazzim5953d ago

The difference between 720P and 1080P isn't big graphically, you won't see much extra on the 1080P version.

*Puts on flame shield*

Darkeyes5953d ago

Your statement make little sense since you still game on a SDTV.. "The difference between 720P and 1080P isn't big graphically".. I don't even want to go into how moronic the statement is. Maybe someday you will grow a pair of eyes to actually appreciate Full HD.

rambi805953d ago (Edited 5953d ago )

on smaller screens it doesn't matter to me much - but as screen size gets larger you see the difference

Sarcasm5953d ago

It's not the resolution that matters, it's the compression ARTIFACTS and macro blocking that is present. Heck, they could have made it in true uncompressed 720p for the PS3 version and we might not see a difference. But again, the problem lies in the fact that the 360 version IS compressed.

callahan095953d ago

Are you kidding? 1080p displays more than double the pixels as 720p. It's easy to tell the difference.

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ClownBelt5953d ago

Xbots are used to mediocrity already, so no news here.

Trebius5953d ago

They never stop to think about the fact that they're stuck in the stone age, the 360 is holding back the game industry.

Oner5952d ago

The really sad thing is they are HAPPY being in that position...blindly ignorant and oblivious to the kind of detriment they are in essence contributing to!

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Einhander1972886d ago

FFXIII is actually one of the best Final Fantasy games.

I also sort of was disappointed at the time, never as much as the bandwagon. But really all the fantastic 3D rendered cutscenes and I actually liked the characters and the story though convoluted was actually fantastic and the ending was extremely emotional. So much budget and time were put into that game Square had such big plans, I actually have always felt kind of bad for how things played out.

I have been thinking for years how great it would be to get all three games on one disk for PS4 or 5.

Nyxus886d ago

I always liked this game, and I agree, a rerelease for current gen would be nice.

Shane Kim885d ago (Edited 885d ago )

Gotta take off the nostalgia glasses. It's the worst FF. Shiva as a bike, I mean come on.

Elda885d ago

Shiva as a bike is strange but saying FFXIII is the worst FF is not at all a fact, that's simply your opinion.

Terry_B884d ago

*One of the 3 equally bad FF's

DivineHand125885d ago (Edited 885d ago )

When I got my series X a year ago, I bought FF13 for nostalgia reasons but ended up being disappointed. When I first played it around the time it launched, I didn't have a lot of experience with final fantasy games, so I enjoyed it. Fast forward to when I played it again, I found that the game had many unnecessary filler moments instead of just giving us meaningful content.

The game is also very linear and a quote on the article said it best. "It is like a sewage pipe that leads to the ocean until it opens up on Grand Pulse."

The story didn't make much sense either and I believe it is my mistake as I played the FF7 remake on PS5 prior which is a night and day difference in terms of pacing, storytelling and likeable characters even though cloud is aloof.

FinalFantasyFanatic885d ago (Edited 885d ago )

Probably was a mistake to play any of the golden era FFs first (e.g. FF6 through FF10), it makes it harder to enjoy some of the FFs that aren't as good. I think FF12 was where major issues with the series started becoming apparent, and it just got worse from there.

FinalFantasyFanatic885d ago (Edited 885d ago )

I didn't really care for it that much, the only saving grace was that it had a better story than 15 (overall it was better than 15) and possibly 12, and even then, you had to read some of it through primers, like reading a book. Plus the battle system was reasonably fun for what it was, even if it was more the spectacle that was exciting for me (e.g. summoning). And to be fair, the 13 trilogy got better with every games, I still don't like Snow though.

Gamingsince1981884d ago

Ff13 is only good if you haven't played a ff before, or any other games that are decent for that matter.

-Foxtrot884d ago

It is in fact no way the best Final Fantasy game, it's one of the worst

Linear corridors, Cutscene, Fight, Cutscene...rinse and repeat

Dialogue and characters are pretty bad, especially Lightning as the main FF hero, they literally said they tried to make a "Female Cloud" and they failed.

Story was pretty awful

I could go on

I think the only alright thing that came from the game was the music.

Elda884d ago

That's not a fact that's your personal opinion. The game sold 11 million copies between its 2009 release up until 2014 including critically reviewed as an 8 out of 10 or an 80 out of 100. The game does have some issues but it's not at all a fact as one of the worst FF games.

-Foxtrot884d ago

Elda

Not just mine mate

A large majority

So….

Traecy884d ago

N4G commenters such as yourself aren't the majority. The game was well received.

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gold_drake886d ago (Edited 886d ago )

i liked the game alot but i didnt like how they handled the terminology.

i dont mind reading data logs but it had soo many.

but i always loved the music and how it looked. the battle system wasnt too bad either.

but i like 13-2 more :)

i still dont understand why we never got a remaster of the trilogy

Eonjay884d ago

Xbox kinda did. Besides the video files of course which are still best on PS3 due to bluray.

Snookies12886d ago

XIII is a pretty solid game, but XIII-2 is WAY better. XIII-2 was one of the few games I decided to go for a Platinum trophy in, early on. Had so much fun the entire way through getting it too!

Eonjay884d ago

Totally agree. FF 13 was okay but 13-2 is my favorite FF game ever.

shinoff2183886d ago (Edited 886d ago )

I hated this to when it released. I haven't much liked a ff game since ff10 as much , aside from ff7remake. I decided to give it another shot on my series x since it's not on a current ps and was liking it quite a bit(just takes me some time to get over things ) until star ocean 2 remake came out I was all over that.

Square should definitely remaster it or something for ps4 ps5

KillerB885d ago

my favorite jrpg trilogy ever

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