"Also their engine was designed for the 360/PC so if they want to prevent a mandatory install they may need to store even more data on the disk."

Isn't UE3 a multiplat engine?

i swore the unreal engine was multiplat....i guess ps3 never had titles using that right?

streaming textures ? what's the point ?

did you forget that every PS3 has a hard drive .??

Just do an install and there is no problem.
You make it sound like it's a technical problem when the pc version already doesn't have this problem at all thanks to ... the hard drive in every computer ...

Omega...a dual layered Blu-Ray is more than 40GB which is enough space to hold both games like someone said, even twice over. Besides, all PS3's have a mandatory HDD, so even if they design it to dump load on the HDD, then too it won't matter to most.

"Also their engine was designed for the 360/PC"... pfft it's Unreal Engine. The game can be ported to a iPhone as well if the hardware was there lol that engine is that versatile.

Looks like someone is upset that the game is coming to the PS3.

I doubt both would fit, since I believe they stream textures from the disk (which is why there was popin in the first one) and even with the speed of the 360s drive there was still popin. So all the textures would need to be uncompressed, because of how slow bluray is, which could take up a lot of extra space.

You doubt they'd fit? A blu-ray can hold 50GB unless ME+ME2 was 6 disks then I'm fairly sure it'll fit with room to spare.

The code wasn't optimized, I'm fairly sure that the pop-in wouldn't be such a large problem. Blu-ray spin speed is slow but it's MB transfer speed is infact higher than the 360's minimum.
Plus they have the OPTION to install it to hard drive.

So your solution to Blu-ray read speed issues is to make textures take up even more disc space?...

If Blu-ray read speeds were really an issue, Bioware could simply add a 3-5GB install as other developers have done in the past. I think that would be more than worth it for PS3 owners if it meant getting a chance to play these great RPGs.

Mass Effect - 7.5GB
Mass Effect 2 - 15GB

That's 22.5GB, so stick it on a 50GB disc, have the uncompressed textures and an install, slap it in a box, call it a day.

There's no technical reason why it wouldn't work on PS3, it's only UE3. Hell, I know for a fact ME2 wouldn't be an issue due to the load screens and the fact it's a lot more linear (no planet exploration).

altho i do see ur point, especially when i hear about the whole u can use ur me 2 save etc.

but take me for example, i bought the original mass effect but just couldn't get into it, but then i hear that me2 is a massive improvement which fixed any problems i had with the game.

chances are i'll play and enjoy me2 without having played the first...

altho i will prob still get this either for pc or my 360 rather than wait for confirmation of a ps3 version. It wouldn't actually surprise me if we did see one though but not for a while

Well, I think Bioware are on record as saying you DIDN'T need to have played the first one to play and enjoy the second. I've not seen the IGN review(stopped reading them last year just because I no longer think they have writers that do any great work, sadly)but the one's that I have didn't seem to mention you needing any first game experience to play the second installment however much it might be a nice thing to have done for all the details and such like.

Back fully OT, though, wasn't the PS3 ME2 thing put to bed a while ago? I'm sure one of the head guys at B/W sorted it out pre release after the last round of contradictory statements and rumours that there were, and still aren't any plans for a PS3 version of any Mass Effect games for Sony's console, didn't he? It was a "sort this out once and for all" type message as I remember it so I'm never very sure what to think about the constant rumblings about the platform status of these games.

Anyway, I'm no expert on any kiond of game code so haven't an inkling what all the PS3 tags turning up in the PC code are all about, whether they make a PS3 version likely, possible or certain. For all I know it could mean nothing or mean they aborted a PS3 version but not all the code from it got squished away properly-there's a shedload of code so mistakes and oversights must be possible if the code is inactive, no? I mean, we get loads of buggy games anyway, don't we? Oh, whatever? Does this mean anything?

The one reason I've never really been one to assume that it would come to PS3 was because we heard all the same about L4D. We had "Valve are with EA now and they're always making multis", "EA make more cash from PS3 than 360", "they made sure HL2 got to PS3 in tOB even without Valve' help-even if they id do a crap job of it!"-and what happened there? No Zombie killing for PS3 gamers(though given the poor state of L4D on 360 compared to PC who knows just how crappy a Valve PVC to PS3 port would be as they only see any console as a way to make a quick, shoddy unsupported buck in my experience), even now. So, what makes ME,ME2 and Bioware so different to Valve and L4D?

I'd love to imagine more gamers would get to play such a great series and, even though I realise it was bought n help rather than themselves that made it, the DA:O PS3 version was pretty good quality considering it was their first ever attempt at it. However, IK at all-it's gone rumbling on for so long that I'm tempted to thnk there has to be a publishing roadblock with MS partially(at least) holdng some part of the IP here-or we'd surely have seen ME1 before now, no? Still not biting on this coming to PS3 no mtter how sure and gleeful some PS3 followers are about it or how laughable some 360 zealots are in their blase "never gonna happen" 'tudes-it just doesn't seem like stopping and I'm starting to think Bioware are being damn clever n occasionally allowing a litle more fuel out to fan the flames on this one. It keeps them and their games on gamers minds and lips and that's great for Bioware as it puts them in a great position with the money men at EA if and when porting might become a real issue.

I'd like it to go to PS3 so some of my PS3 only gamer pals can get to play it but I'm not sure, not at all, about whether it ever might.

Next Article: "EA and Bioware announce Mass Effect Collection: Only One Disc"

@deep: I like the sound of that... especially if cost $60 bucks. It worth every cent of my money if such thing happen :)

Wow you guys love your bluray

mastiffchild has a point what about L4D that still has yet to make the jump are there were loads of ps3 rumors too, not sure if there was ps3 code in them but its still EA.

If Biowares relationship with MS is like Valves then you guys maybe outta luck

because Valve own the L4d rights and they dont seem to be fans of the ps3 at all...unlike bioware who likes working with the ps3 and has said it many times that it would be no legal issue bringing Mass Effect over to ps3

Valve is allowed to decide what platform they put their games on seeing as they are a completely independent studio. EA doesn't even publish their games; they are merely the distributor of their physical copies, so their cut is not as large as it would be if they actually published the titles.

Bioware on the other hand is actually owned by EA, and they have already released a title for the PS3.

You don't need to play 1 to understand 2, Bioware have done a great job making the story make sense without having to play the first game.

Omega won't even believe it even if EA and Sony came out and announce it together. The level of denial is astonishing.

OpenGL-Yes, I realise there are big differences between the relationships between Vavle and EA and EA and B/W. Thing I'm pointing out is that people assumed that just because Valve were in bed with EA to whatever extent that games like L4D would also make it over to PS3(why else would EA be interested in the deal, people argued)while I took the fact EA HAD to port tOB themselves as a very real sign Valve really had no intention of ever workng with Sony's console. Perhaps, if their experiment with that port of the Source engine had gon a little better EA MIGHT have done the same, who knows? That said I honestly feel Valve are SO PC centric that it smetimes makes their console efforts look very pale in comparison to what they offr on PC-L4D is unrecognisable for me on 360 and I doubt it would exist even on an MS platform unless the dev tools happened to be, as they are, remarkably similar, which allows Valve some relatively lazy, easy porting. Anyway, given the quality of their PC games an the lack of it on their 360 ports(on a platform they say they like) just how bad would they make PS3 ports if forced to? But that's another argument entirely! I'm still wound up that the, imo, severely lacking 360L4D cos me twice s much as the excellent PC version did and feel they really only make the ports for quick extra cash.

Bioware certainly HAVE made , or got someone in to make, DA:O for PS3(and did a decent job too)but wasn't that game actually started BEFORE Mass Effect was? My main point about not knowing anything about whether it's coming to PS3 is thast it's so far into the trilogy with nothng concrete to suggest it IS coming and I'm very sure, too, that all the talk is both helpful and flattering to B/W which makes me wonder about ALL of it , tbh.

I'm not saying I think it's coming and I'm not saying it won't, or that ME3 won't but I do think it's weird that , if it IS coming, they haven't managed to say anythng about it yet-unless, of course, they feel this is the bet way forwards for sales of the series and that an announcement prior to 360 release would have dramatically effected sales of ME2 recently. If they're gong to vcome out with a ME collection BR for PS3 THAT may make a little sense but, again, I see nothing concrete at all, either way.

It's like I was always pretty certain Bioshock was going to arrive on PS3 at some point bcause of their ttitude in the press:they reacted to the first round of rumours reported about it going multi with dmands for retractions but when told "OK, we'll retract it if you can ASSURE our reader it'll never happen" they never mentioned it again til it was announced for PS3! Once we knew they'd not replied to the media outlets concerned a second time it was very clear what was going on there but I've never seen anything similar about Bioware or Mass Effect despite, if anything, more rumours!

Basically, though, I was pointing out that we've had rumours like this before in pretty similar circumstances(and whatever Valve's relationship with EA you cannot deny the opportunity they refuesed when they turned their back on the PS3 so it's not ALL about logic in this industry which is why we'll always see the odd, occasioanl anomalous thrid party exclusive even n a world where they're nearly extinct)it hasn't always resulted in the expected multiplatform results. This said, I'd really love it to make it over to the PS3 as it's one series I think could really do well on the PS3 and being UE3 has every chance of looking pretty much identical to how it has on the 360. I'd even prefer, given the choice, plying it with a DS3 lke I do all my multiplats usually!

Anyhow, I just don't know why people are SO certain because of these bits of code that could, as I guessed earlir, be the result of B/W just looking into possibilities, B/W just stirring the pot for their own political needs, evidence of a PS3 version OR evidence of an aborted one. Can anyone be THAT sure about this given the fact they've had an AGE to make it plain where the games were going?

You don't need to play the first to understand the second sure the novelty of importing ones save file is there but the choices you made in ME1 barely made any impact on Mass Effect 2 (although I do believe some of it would make a heavier impact on ME3).

The council you barely saw them, Anderson and Udina you're just dictating who acts superior to who, Wrex only as a cameo role the first Love Interest only appears once, The rachni you only hear from them once should you have saved them.

lol omega 4 the game would be greatly improved, and it would fit both without compression on one BD50.

unfortunately you may be right, no third party exclusive is safe.

3rd party exclusivity Dead= M$ Dead.

"Microsoft *needs* to up their 1st party support or they will not compete next generation. "

That is the truth!

gotta say, i think it's a lot to do with the const of producting games now adays. They seem to take a lot more time and effort to make so it's unsurprising that companies would wanna get them out to as many platforms as possible, and well with me on EA... lol

FF14 was never exclusive they announced the PC version right off.

Say FF14 was ever a PS3 exclusive?

Sony said when the game LAUNCHED it would be on the PS3 and PC.

The very day, Square-Enix said, "Don't count out a 360 version but it probably won't launch along side the PC and PS3 because of some issues"

So if it IS now launching beside them, then that's great but it was never a, how you XBOTs like to say, "Consooooolle Exclusive".

Yeah, UH OH WE BETTER BE WORRIED THAT A MULTIPLATFORM GAME IS NO LONGER EXCLUSIVE! lol

Verus most likely will stay exclusive as I recalled the head dev saying that he want to code the game in a way that is only possible on the ps3 (in response to his colleague asking if they should code the game multiplatform friendly.)

Crab, stop being butt-hurt

Because it's on the PC as well?

Hey, I hope it goes to the PS3, I've said it on here many times before. It's a really great universe. I just think it's funny how people jump on these things.

I don't think it is necessarily ONE game in particular. But I think a few exclusives could tend to catch those who are already on the fence peeking over, hesitating to buy that console. For instance, if you like shooters, and you were on the fence about getting a 360 anyhow, I can see how Halo Reach and Gears of War 1 & 2 could encourage you to make that buy if there was something special about those games that got your attention. The same holds true if you liked a few PS3 exclusives... you want that Bluray player, Infamous, Uncharted 1 & 2, Killzone2, Heavy Rain, God of War 3... it starts to eat away at your Resistance (pun intended). So many folks who may be on the fence, go ahead and make that leap if a few exclusives collectively grab them.

The alternative is, if there were NO exclusives, the first console you buy, good or bad, would be it. There would never be anything to encourage another console purchase, until it dies. Exclusives exist to encourage console ownership, especially if you already own a different one. It is the sole reason to even look in a different direction than your current console.

I was a 360 only owner until Killzone 2 released. I HAD to have a PS3 to play it.

Also to Meus...exclusives are key in competition. If EVERY game is multiplatform, then there would be no need to have multiple platforms. If there's no need for multiple platforms, then there's no need for devs to push the boundaries and innovate their games and franchises. There would be no incentive because if someone wants to play something, they have to get it for that platform, whether or not the dev put in the polish or took the extra time to make it an engaging experience.