They will pay Immersion to use rumble and whether Immersion decides to give any of that to M$ is between them. Personally I think it would be funny if M$ tried to use their usually bully tactics and make a big deal out of this, and then in 2 years time when Xbox720 or whatever rediculous name they give it comes out, they find themselves without rumble.

How the hell did they get that clause anyway. It only goes to show how frivolous the intial lawsuit was and how desparate Immersion was to take a settlement since that company had never made any money before that and their crowning achievement remains being paid out by Sony.

in other words Microsoft doesn`t want the ps3 to rumble.Sony should leave this mess to both parties and do something with Splitfish

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Jason xg1,i side with your point which happen`s to be a dangerous game Immersion is trying to play here.

If Immersion strikes a deal with Sony that effects the contract between Immersion and Microsoft then expect rumble to be put on hold in the PS3. It sound like Immersion just wants to screw everyone like the good ol Immersion we all know and "hate". Sony fans don't get pissed at MS becausr of this, it's all Immersion here screwing all the gamers.

guys the only problem is that when MS signed the deal way back they became a partner in the company who sees some of the future profits of the company, the problem is the Sony deal doesn't see them getting their share

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh, poor wittle M$!!!

what are you saying??? IN THE END SONY WILL WIN YOU TOOL HEY IM JUST SAYING NOW WE NEED ONE FOR THE WII COME ON PPL JUST WANT TO BE FAIR HERE

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MICROSOFT TRYING TO FORCE SONY TO STOP USING RUMBLE, YOU IDIOTS- STOP READING INTO ARTICLES WHAT YOU WANT TO BELIEVE AND PLEASE TRY TO STICK TO FACTS.

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"We entered into a binding licensing agreement with Immersion..."
"Our request to the court is that all companies and industry partners should play by the same rules and that the binding agreement we signed with Immersion be honored."

When Microsoft and Immersion settled, there were certain terms they agreed upon that Microsoft feels Immersion violated.

BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE TERMS ARE.

For example- Microsoft might have made Immersion agree that, say, Immersion demanded $2 from the sale of every Microsoft controller due to Rumble. Microsoft could have asked them to stick to that price with regard to all console controllers using that same technology- for example, when third parties make 360 controllers they'd pay the same fee. Now imagine if Immersion cut a deal with Sony to end Sony's litigation where they'd only take $1 per Sony controller. Microsoft looks at the terms and says hey- you agreed to a flat $2 fee, you can't just drop it for other people, or else you'd have to drop ours as well. And that would be perfectly legally and morally fine of them to say.

And that's just one possible interpretation.
We have NO. IDEA. what these "other terms" were. Heck, maybe Immersion really penned a contract, approved by the courts, saying Xbox 360 would be the last console ever to be able to license Rumble, and Immersion violated that.

We just don't know.
And until we know, people need to stop pretending that something's there when it isn't.

sneaky little c+nts. No honour in business, only those wanting to buy out the opposition.

And microsoft will tell them to keep their money, and force immersion to do the same.

"No rumble for you"

By completely owning the industry. It all started with buying the former exclusive rights to PS3 games instead of making the games themselves. Fair enough, no 3rd party exclusives. THey made their own studios? Fair enough. They've bought studios? Debatable, why not make them themselves instead? But Sony does the same, so I guess you could say it's ok. Buying exclusives left and right, depriving gamers that don't want an Xbox 360? Probably wrong. If they are about choice, why can't they compete with their own skills and leave us the choice to pick a 360 or a PS3 or something else? Then they want to do this with features. That's just plain wrong. That's windows all over again. I hope the red rings are the cause of microsoft's failure to capture market share.

But I think Immersion screwed themselves.

Granted, we don't the details of any Immersion - MS agreement, but Immersion seems to have put themselves between a rock and a hard place.

They already signed an agreement with Sony, from what was stated before.
So, if they go ahead, they'll get sued by MS and will have to pay.
If they back out of the Sony agreement, Sony will sue them and they'll have to pay.

I think they should have shut up before and not played with the big dogs to start with. Now one of those dogs is about to bite them in the a55.

fuc microsoft nuff said..

this wouldn't affect Sony at all. Sony already have settlement with Immersion. If anything, It is Immerson who breached the contract. Anything breached contract should be paid by Immerson to Microsoft not Sony. So rumble will still be on but expect Microsoft to get the most of Immerson, that's a nice strikeback.. Good job Microsoft.

Yeah, I like how you treat us consumers Microsoft. Instead of trying to make a better product you make a deal with Immerson so that sony can´t use the rumble-technology and that way make it seem like you have the better product.
But not to clever of you guys because you need to come up with new interesting games and other product as well (well, kind of like Sony is doing) and in that department you really haven´t much to show off.

The most that will come of this is one of two things happening. Either rumble being delayed slightly for PS3 controllers, as the dust clears on all these lawsuits. Or Immersion gives Microsoft what was agreed upon, which according to the article would be percentage of the cost for rumble in each controller. To me its kind of funny because Micro$oft would be making money every time a controller with rumble is sold for the PS3, lol. Is there a product out there old Billy Boy hasn't figured out how to dip his fingures into the back pocket and pull a five spot from? MS is worse than Tony Soprano in that regard lol.

The digging showed that Immersion isn't paying MS becasue of the deal they made with Sony. Person A agrees to pay Person B so much money if they also sell to Person C. Person A sells to C, but doesn't pay Person B. That doesn't mean Person C is screwed.

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Would this action still take affect even if the technologies in the 2 controllers are different?

Isn't the technology that is suppose to be going into the SIXAXIS different then that which is now in the 360 control.

So What would the problem. The 360 and PS3 are not gonna have the same feedback, so from the outside looking in Immerson is keeping their word.