Right out of the gate. "Sony still isn’t making money off of the PS3."
Really? News to Sony. Just in September, in a conference call their CEO said the costs to make a PS3 had come down 70% since launch, putting it at roughly $240 to make. Kaz also stated just before the launch of the slim that the PS3, as a platform had been profitable since their last fiscal year end. The link to the Isupply site is great and all - but they just look at the hardware breakdown. They have no idea the manufacturing agreements Sony has entered into. And considering Sony is on record saying the PS3 makes money it's time to let this myth die. Even if Isupply was correct in their assumptions, Sony doesn't charge the same amount in all regions.

Then this mook goes on to describe the PSN as shoddy. I stopped reading at that point. I could just as easily say Honda makes shoddy cars, but at some point I'd have to have some reasoning. This guy doesn't even bother to explain himself. If he can't be bothered to back up his arguments, why should we be bothered to read them?

I'm sure the author means well. I do my own editorials on my site from time to time. He did take the time to write that uninformed, opinionated rant so obviously he's interested in the topic but simple rants with no backup have no business on a site that is supposed to be dedicated to news. At least try to make it about something newsworthy. Expressing your opinion without bothering to back it up or offer anything new should simply be regulated to a blog post.

Save yourself some time. This isn't newsworthy. Just the fact that Bungie is endorsing it above should clue you into the worth of this article. The author won't even give his name in this shoddy blog. For sure the 360 brigade will force this through though.

Every single last person who approved this should have their contributer status taken away. It's these people that make the rest of us have to wade through meaningless blog after meaningless blog on N4G to actually get to anything of substance.

This guy is going all over the place as if he keeps forgetting what points he's trying to make.

i literally LOL at this bungie dude.

But anyway, even I can write a letter to a company.. e.g. Microsoft but will it get the same love by its fanboys?

Actually, Sony still is losing money on PS3 hardware, but not as much as before. A recent iSupply report showed that the PS3 Slim costs about $330 USD to manufacture. You can read more details here:

http://www.ps3informer.com/...

A lot of people, just regular people, take the time to analyse Sony's performance - they don't bother so much with MS.

I guess people just don't have that feeling of being part of something in the 360 "community" (which is a very loose way of describing the assorted, homophobes, racists and red necks prevalent on it) - it's just the next tea bag you can give.

Playstation brand inspires more devotion and interest it seems.

r.

Sony is the ONLY console maker to sell OVER 100 million consoles not once, but TWICE. Together, the Xbox and 360 have sold around 60 million. That's just a little bit over a half of the PS ONE. I'm sure Sony knows very well what they're doing.

He did mention iSuppli, but their report only show what it would cost if i went out to buy all of the individual pieces. Sony can get things much cheaper through manufacturing deals and buying a lot at once.

Hey bungie what is your gamer tag on the, PSN and Life?

Bungie - Your an idiot
The guy who wrote this - Your an idiot
The N4G staff who approved this - Your an idiot

Nuff said

I saw iSupply's opinion on the PS3's price, but Sony has already told us it costs $240 to make the PS3, and Kaz himself publically stated the PS3 as a platform is profitable.

I'm not saying ISupply is wrong, but don't you think if Sony's CEO Nobuyuki Oneda, is telling investors in their conference call that the cost of making the PS3 has come down roughly 70% since launch, which would put it at roughly $240 that this should probably be the strongest authority on the matter?

I mean, who knows if Isupply is right or not? It's not like Sony or Microsoft address the issue and say "Yeah! They got it bang on!" We have no idea. We do know that corporate CEO's have a responsibility to their investors, and if they make misleading or false statements they are held accountable. Who holds Isupply accountable? If they're off, they just revise their numbers.

Just like how I love how every person on N4G acts like they are smarter than the multi billion dollar companies. LOL Oh yeah and how so many "insiders" and people who work for developers and have family who work for developers are hanging in N4G all the time..

"Is Sony ahead of the curb or is this constructive rant justified?"

It's "ahead of the curve"
http://encarta.msn.com/dict...

It's a common mistake...still makes no sense though.

Im not even gonna read this. I dont have to.

I'll simply say people have whinned about just about every step Sony has taken in this industry in the past 15 years, an Industry, lets not forget, they were new to.

And just about even step they've taken, in the long run has turned out to be the right one. In fact the only big mistake I think they've made aside from a little arrogance which was blown out of proportion like everything else was firing Ken.

I'm going to go out on limb here and suggest they know more about what they are doing then anyone whose ever attacked them,
and that includes you,
and you,
and you,
and you......

It's no wonder people like Bungie approved this dribble, it's full of lies and FUD about the PS3... Whodathunkit?

Sorry, but articles like this make you look like a douche bag for even approving of them. Thanks for coming clean...

kaveti6616 owned you pretty badly XD

But, you are wrong to bring this argument up in this forum, because you didn't like that the article criticizing the wand. Being an American does not give you the right to dismiss what ever someone you believe to be American has to say and place them all in this theoretical judgement group when you don't even know them. I hear this from the PS3 crowd all the time. They are quick to label M$ as evil and Sony as good only because they are an American company. For a company that is American, I don't M$ employee complaining and running over to japanese companies that are right here in America competing for the same evil money. You are a smart guy. But your generalization is just wrong. There are some serious a'holes in American business, but I am sure they are some in all countries. Being born American or Japanese does not exempt or include you in a specific moral grouping. This article had nothing to do with your rant.

Only he didnt write that, or even imply it.

You did.

PS
And yes I do think Sony cares more about happy customers than M$ because the Japanese way of doing business is looking at the longterm. M$ has never been scared to deliberately screwing customers for short tern gains.

C'mon, no one can seriously argue with that can they, its as true as water is wet.

that was very insightful