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MAG Pricing and Distribution Details

"Many gamers out there have been amazed by the lack of marketing Sony has done for MAG when it is releasing January 26, this coming Tuesday. With the game being only a few days away, we have yet to hear anything about pricing or distribution options for this game, until TheGamerAccess.com finally received information from Jill Webber, PR representative for MAG."

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Nick2120045963d ago

I was honestly expecting the same setup as Socom: Confrontation with a $39.99 download and Blu-ray only copy, but also a bundle with the official PlayStation headset for $59.99.

Blaze9295963d ago

Lmfao whoa...whoa...whoa...wtf? I'm with Nick212004 on this one. Full $60 for THIS? And I would have surely thought they'd have a downloadable version.

$60 price tag for a multiplayer only game, almost zero marketing has been done for this game and it comes out Tuesday, can't download it - is Sony TRYING to make this game fail?

ipwnall5963d ago

Because the game already has 200k+ preorders...

AridSpider5963d ago

Really? Got some links to back that up buddy?

Guido5963d ago (Edited 5963d ago )

And folks are complaining about the retail price? And to anybody that complains about this and has the gull to defend the price for Live, you can take a long walk off a short pier. MAG may not be my cup of tea but for those that want a truly epic online battle that stresses teamwork and strategy, this is the game to play for a long time to come.

Oh, and what was the original retail price of Shadowrun? Yeah, and that game had nothing going for it but a demo of the upcoming Crackdown game...

darx5963d ago

Did you participate in the beta?

Guido5963d ago

I found it fun when the mates would act together. It was not my cup of tea but it was more fun that Shadowrun and many paid full price for that.

Morbid Bulldozer5963d ago (Edited 5963d ago )

ROTFL, having 256 players justifies 60$ price? There should be more MMOs on the consoles then - they can be utter crap, but all you have to do is hit the 256 player milestone and suddenly: instant hit!

By the way, I have nothing against MAG's price tag or MAG itself. 256 players is a technical achievement on consoles, but it's far less important than gameplay and content.

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@ryuzu: ever heard of MMO FPS? Besides, I'm replying to "First console game to have 256 players in a single online game...". Read it again. "Console game". Not "console FPS". It's amazing, how you come to News 4 GAMERS, but can't tell the difference between "game" and "FPS game".

ryuzu5963d ago

Wow - can't believe there are people who come to a site called New 4 GAMERS but can't tell the difference between an mmo and an FPS.

lolz

Jamescagney5963d ago

That's not saying much seeing as Shadowrun was a pile of sh1t.

raztad5963d ago (Edited 5963d ago )

How comes some of you guys are surprised if Amazon and every other retailers are taking preorder for this game long time ago. I have game preordered on Amazon, $53.99 and $10 off on a new purchase.

I think Sony is making a mistake relying only on Beta player for buying the game and dropping a Massive Ad push for the game. Typical Sony, waiting for word of mouth and internet forums to sell their exclusives.

Even if VGCHARTZ numbers for MAG preorders are accurate, I dont think they are good enough to do nothing about pushing the game out the store.

BTW, MAG is multi only but it does have a back story. MAG is a persistent world game, you're fighting in one of the 3 PMC in the Shadow War. It's not just your regular rinse and repeat fps.

Morbid Bulldozer5963d ago

"You're a soldier that fights in a war" is not a story. MAG doesn't need plot, let's not try to make one up.

SilentNegotiator5963d ago

Heck, I'd be willing $40, maybe even $50, for MAG, but full price on a MP-only game......I don't know.

In a way, I sort of see what Guido is saying. I mean, the servers don't come cheap, I'm sure. And Zipper is sort of a small dev.

Guido5963d ago

Thank you, my point exactly. People didn't get into a tizzy much then but oh, now that it is a Sony game, we can't have that!!! The idiots complaining here gladly paid 60 bucks for Shadowrun and they paid for Live on top of it. So tell me, where are those supporters now and why would anybody be b*tching now when MAG offers way more than Shadowrun? It's all the hypocrisy coming through... Nothing new.

harrisk9545963d ago

Interesting. Even though it is VG Chartz, I am amazed to see the majority of the pre-orders in the top 10 are PS3 titles (#s 2,3,4,8,9), including Bad Company 2 having more pre-orders on the PS3 than the 360 and Dante's Inferno being #8 for the PS3 and not in the top 10 for the 360... AND FFXIII having 102,812 pre-ordered on the PS3 and only 49,740 on the 360...

Not saying that VG Chartz is always 100% accurate... just saying it's interesting.

OGharryjoysticks5963d ago

They said a long time ago that this game would be only on disc because it's pretty much going to fill a bluray disc...and by doing that, to me it's worth 60. Sure, it's probably not a dual layer bluray, but coming close to filling a single layer is still multiple DVDs.

Udidntlistenpunk5963d ago

Unless you actually enjoyed the single player campaign, which hardly anyone did. Hell, I didnt even finish the single player and went straight to multi.

nnotdead5963d ago

@1.13- i was thinking the same thing. $40 i was interested. now at $60 im less so. i have Mass Effect to buy anyways. i will wait for Gamefly to send it and if i continue to enjoy it i will just keep it.

@1.17- at least they had a SP campaign. also a co-op mode to go along with it.

davekaos5963d ago

I didnt see people complaining about the price of halo O.D.S.T
and that was practically an add on, if anything that should of been downloadable content.
only concern i have with this game is that the game should launch with a headset of somesort.
I cant complain though because me and my buddies who are getting this all have mics.
There is 15 of us so as far as team work goes we are pretty much sorted

Morbid Bulldozer5963d ago

Please cry some more. Your tears are delicious.

PS. People complained about price of Shadowrun and ODST.

raztad5963d ago (Edited 5963d ago )

@bulldozer

A link for you: http://www.jointheshadowwar...

Let me repeat it: MAG DOES have a backstory and the war economy is persistent. Every battle won/lost has an impact in the Shadow War running on among the three PMCs.

And if you want a complex plot, my advice it's to find some RPGs.

SoapShoes5963d ago

It's not going to be downloadable because it is too big! The beta was already like 4gigs and that was compressed and not even the full game.

BLuKhaos5962d ago

So there's no headset bundled in? Meh no buy from me then, I didn't like the beta but I would have bought it if it came with a headset bundled in.

frostypants5962d ago

This isn't ODST bad, but it's still bad.

I was assuming it would have the same general distro/pricing strategy as Warhawk. Now, Warhawk was one of the best values ever and I would have paid more in retrospect. But unless this game is Warhawk-level quality, I might have to pass at this pricepoint.

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trounbyfire5963d ago

this is upsetting for sure. i was one of the people that wanted this game at 40 of 50 dollars. i am sure that with no single player and the fact that you will have to wait a long time for the 256 map to fill up means that sony F'up again. hate to say it but i am worried about GOD OF WAR 3. Sony couldn't even promote Uncharted and they promoted the PS3 and PSP go more than uncharted. many this sucks thats why PS3 games get out sold by 360 games. they is little to no marketing.

mastiffchild5963d ago

GOW3 will be fine as it's a massive name already and one Sony will lkely push quitee hard but,I have to agree that their marketing and pricing strategies are bemusing to me sometimes.

I uppose MAG is benmg pusheds at full retail because of the innovative aspect that made it a hard and expensive one to develop and with 256 players possibl;e per game it's servers are going to be massively workd all the time and must also takle some money keping, fixing and maintraining them.Whatever, though, it's a game that NEEDS a headset if you ever wish to lead anyone else(personally I really don't and JUST want to be part of a close nit team/squad in the middle of the bigger battle!)and would be good even if youdon't so you can still inform your leader and squad f what's coming up, going on or anything else to help or call for it yourself. It's an amazing game when you have a good squad around you talking and doing their objectives/FRAGOS and would, for me, be worhth full price admission but I STILL think a $70 or $65 package with a cheap heady would be best for the health of the game but a DLC title it isn't. I wouldn't want all that permanently back on my HDD! It was a massive sized beta download wasn't it? Surely with a lot more maps and stuff on the full game disc a DD copy would be a vast file size, no? Would take a week to download if the bloody beta(the first tim round anyway) was owt to go by as that took me HOURS to get finished and installed!

Anyway, I don't know if many people on the edge of buying MAG will bother when it's fukll privce as they're used to MW2 and KZ2 having on AND offline campaigns at that price and Warhawk and Sopcom confrontaton being cheaper as they're just online aren't they?People won't care whether Zipper's efforts or the many serves deserve the price tag , no, they'll just think it's expensive for no SP! Then again 360 owners(including my own stupid self) bought both L4D games t full price(or higher than pretty much any other 360 game for me at £45!)and noone could argue that they have anything like a real opffline mode and they aren't nearly as innovative as MAG is!

Still needs to be ,marketed a lot better and I have MNEVER seen one yet for the game-and I've been looking, oo, as it was a magical beta WHEN it all came together but the Socom massive will support it and through word of mouth and over time the game wioll sell and sell well as long as the community doesn't get killed by those unwilling to play it properly as it's just not a game where you can lone wolf it or pretend you're still playing COD!

Morbid Bulldozer5963d ago

@mastiff: Come on, man. I'd really want to know your take on the story, but you keep writing walls-of-text consisting mainly of typos. Have mercy!

Udidntlistenpunk5963d ago

If you want it for 40-50 bucks, thats possible too.

Just wait a few months until retailers price the game down to 40-50 bucks.

BeaArthur5963d ago

I think it's interesting that we are 5 days away and we have not seen one review. It doesn't matter to me because I was underwhelmed by the demo and won't be picking this one up, but I have a feeling that this is going to be a very average game.

mastiffchild5963d ago

How can it be "average"? I can accept "grand folly", "too dear for online only", "massive fail" or "wildly successful" as possiblities but not "average" at all.

Thing is, if you don't play as part of your squad you're going to find it really unforgiving and a little confusing, imo, and even if you just aren't used to playing as part of a team or squad it's a tough game to get nto the real swing of.

When it does work, though, and when the bits fall into place with a good leader and a good set of squadmates it's little short of amazing to me. In those, admittedly rare in the first bet, moments it was as good and better than even my greatest nights playing any online FPS even though it's also dead, dead different.COD4 feels anaemic and soulless with it's killstreaks and perks after the MAG beta to me and I've not found the same buzz from TF2 that I used to and it's all down to MAG and those few perfect games I've had.

As for the reviews, well I think they'll wait for the servers to go up for the full, worldwide game if ui'm honest so they will be in a position to really praise it or really go for it's jugular! no point reviewing it based on limited paly with closed beta memebers of the pres at all as it's moving on towards full release all the time and was still being fiddled with all the tim during the open beta! I predict it's gonna be up and down as it's game you eiher get to love or don't get at all-that's what I imagine from mates beta impressions anyway. some loved it and others didn't even want to give it a chance!

I'll say again, though, hthis will sell well over tim and might just still be the start of something very special. All it needs is the right community and for others to understand that, sometims, a game just isn't your cup of tea for whatever reason but that doesn't mean it's broken or average or anything other than something others might like more than you-you couldn't say it's a bad game technically for instance and it looks amazingly good for the number of players, the shooting's tight and feels punchy to boot so, really, it's just down to whether you get the game and want to be a team playr and bvery lttle else-this is what will decide whether the game's for you or not, imo. Online only gams rarely suffer fro,m ebuing abl to be as bad as a SP game can be as you avoid dumb AI,scripts and acting that sucks and all of the other variables of development in a trad sp campaign. S I dn't se avrage as an option for a revolutionary attempt lik MAG myself. But, hey, who am I? I just think it's morepolarising than you do, yes?

BeaArthur5963d ago

mastiffchild...yes average, as in the gameplay wasn't anything special. True we have never seen so many players online and the teamwork could be unparalleled but you are forgetting one important fact. Most people on the PSN don't have a headset (or at least don't use them). How is it supposed to be some epic multiplayer game with layers of great strategy as you claim when no one talks.

Double Toasted5963d ago

You have me laughing every time you post! A wall of text each and every f*cking time...it never fails, lol!

SmokeyMcBear5963d ago

did you play the beta at all? Over half of the squad would have mics.. and the others would be cool and follow orders.... you call something out, and the squadmates without mics would follow or do what you tell them, it was actually pretty cool.

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divideby05963d ago

open beta...no need to market as much as games without an open beta

ViciousBoston5963d ago

You can't review a game based on a BETA. Thats why there are no reviews. The full game with full features has not been released. Its hard to rate an online only game. You'll see reviews pop put the night of release and the next day.

BeaArthur5963d ago

Not necessarily; a lot of games have multiplayer aspects that get reviewed before the release of the game. At this point the game is finished and could be reviewed. I see what you're saying but the developers could make it possible for this game to be reviewed before it's out. They could make some private servers for review purposes.

SmokeyMcBear5963d ago

dude no.. other games get review because they get have a single player element to the game. That is what was such a joke about warhawk reviews previous to launch.. there was no one to play with, or only the 4 player split screen.. nothing like the game was supposed to be.

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MAG was one of the most ambitious shooters ever and deserves a PS5 sequel

Zipper Interactive were once one of Sony's most important studios and became a household name due to their work on the SOCOM U.S. Navy SEALs series during the PlayStation 2's heyday. Their most ambitious title was MAG. Could it make a comeback?

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yellowgerbil2305d ago

Best game ever. I had put over 1700hrs into that game before it deteriorated too far with cheaters getting out of the map and sadly decided it was time to let it die (Zipper had already been closed down by that time).

_SilverHawk_2305d ago

Amazing game. Hopefully sony makes a sequel

XisThatKid2305d ago

This is the game in modern gaming that even got me into shooters i spent literally days with this game Raven All the way. War against the the mighty D ride oh so edgy S.V.E.R.

NecrumOddBoy2305d ago

Original Battle Royale. No microtransactions. Definitely ahead of time.

XBox4eva692305d ago

It's almost as far from battle royale as you can get. o_O

frostypants2305d ago

It didn't have a BR mode.

Da12RespectA2305d ago

That wasn't a battle royale game at all.

rdgneoz32304d ago

3 teams of 32 fighting it out would be considered Battle Royaleish. If you're gonna saying teams are OK when you start doing teams of 2 or 3 or 4, then 32v32v32 should work. And on besides that, it had 128 v 128 which was insanely fun.

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Muzikguy2305d ago (Edited 2305d ago )

I personally hadn't played much of it. I did spend a lot of time in PlanetSide 2 though (somewhat like MAG). Games like these tend to get overrun by cheaters and then ruined too often.

Teflon022305d ago

MAG didn't have that issue as far as I remember. I use to love the 256 matches. That game had an amazing community. Everyone actually communicated and played together. No one B****ed at the team. Everyone understood there was so much going on that if things are going wrong. Everyone had to think of new strategies.
Fav moment was when all 3 other squads 32 took their objectives but we were struggling with ours and had one more to blow up. The other leaders were communicating asking if the 2 nearest squads should send ppl. Our leader was like Naw I got a idea. So he told us all to die and set ourselves at the nearest hills prone without being seen. So we all did and surrounded the areas.
He said everyone on his count throw your grenades. Then snipers go all out and everyone else run in. They won't be able to get everyone and if needed the snipers go in about 10 seconds after.

Everyone did that and I got to the objective and set it off. 9 of us survived and got it. felt amazing to say I got the objective, cover me in that moment. Wish it was PS4 so I could have saved that moment
It was literally the coolest moment I had in a online shooter, closest since was BF4.

Muzikguy2305d ago

@Teflon

That does indeed sound like an awesome moment. One that makes games like these memorable for sure. It does seem like MAG had a lot more cooperation than most any online shooter

Teflon022305d ago

It did because you absolutely can't get no where in it without teamwork. It also didn't have an extremely big base of players. Everyone who played really wanted to play. I really hope they bring it back and do the same thing to only have serious players get into the big matches again

UltraNova2305d ago

Wow, what a run! This game looks better than PUBG!

Muzikguy2305d ago

Watching that video you wouldn't think the game was on PS3.

Spenok2305d ago

I adored this game too. Some of my best FPS online memories on it. So freaking good.

I'd love to see another game like this come out at some point. And NOT like Planetside... M.A.G. was something special.

yellowgerbil2305d ago

Yeah problem is if it existed now adays, it would likely be riddled with xp boosts and dance moves and all that other pay garbage...
MAG and Warhawk are the only 2 online games I ever got into, and both need a PROPER sequel on PS5.
Remember the first time I got 100 kills in a match, was in a turret with a repair kit and just mowed down wave after wave on Valors map.

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PrinceOfAnger2305d ago

I had so much fun with this game

TGGJustin2305d ago

This is a game that was ahead of its time. Had it came out on PS4 it would've done much better. I put hundreds of hours into this despite the problems it had on PS3.

UnholyLight2305d ago

Really interesting as an Xbox owner at the time. This game had captured my interest as a kid but I never got a chance to play it. Being on PS4 and soon possibly PS5, I would love to see this franchise brought back to life. I imagine with the power of next gen it would be really quite fun.

From what I hear and what I remember, this game was FAR ahead of it's time. A real shame it never truly took off from my understanding.

grifter0242305d ago

I'm an xbox boy since mech warrior but got a ps3 slim for mag. If you liked halo or cod you'd have had a blast in mag. Was one of the first games you could actually do something other than shooting and still make a difference in game.

spicelicka2304d ago

PS4 needs something like it. In the multiplayer space it's far behind the Xbox, there are no quality multiplayer games on it that aren't on other consoles.

Dirtnapstor2305d ago

Yes, yes, and yes. Way ahead of it's time. Would love to see a PS5 variant of this game.

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Modern Warfare Ground War mode has MAG vibes

Erina Rose, Sausage Roll writes, "Call of Duty: Modern War introduced a new, improved, Ground War game mode this weekend that reminds us of the old PlayStation 3 classic, MAG."

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ilikestuff2430d ago (Edited 2430d ago )

I never played mag, I did play this beta however, and if mag was like this beta then (fart noises) for mag.

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TheGamez1002430d ago

Man do I miss mag and zipper.

TheSinsibleOne2430d ago

Seriously though. Nowadays this and next gen are practically begging for a new MAG.

zodiac9092430d ago

How did we go from having games like resistance 1, 2, warhawk with 30 vs 30 player battles, and M.A.G. with 128 vs 128 players, ON LAST GEN to now having 20 vs 20...such a step back.

JEECE2430d ago

Because Sony hadn't figured out how to market their exclusives yet. Plus at that time COD craze was at its peak. So "generic high school bro #7," who was the primary purchaser of FPSs at that time (or at least represented a crowd necessary to sustain a playerbase), if he even had a PS3, would have just seen a game like MAG as a "copycat of Black Ops, man."

Not to mention MAG was pretty terribly uninviting for new people after awhile, because it was more skill-based. This was great for veterans, but if you weren't willing to put in the time getting destroyed for awhile, you would never appreciate the game. The Battlefield: Bad Company and BF:3 games out during that gen were far more accessible to lower level players.

Vegamyster2430d ago

Battlefield 4 was at the start of the generation and had 64 players, to me it depends more on how the map/gameplay is utilized, i enjoyed the 20vs20 modes more in the MW Beta than the 64 player ground war mode.

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moomoo3192430d ago

It feels absolutely nothing like MAG lol. Way more battlefield vibes

xX-oldboy-Xx2430d ago

And even those are very small vibes, it still feels like COD at the end of the day.

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MAG: The Greatest Game You Never Played

Almost 10 years ago the greatest first person shooter came out and most of you probably never heard of it, never got to play it and never will.

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FiLTHY ESKiMO2549d ago

Who would the next gen version nor that Zippers gone?

_SilverHawk_2549d ago

I remember this game and it was amazing. I would like it if Sony would make another one because this game was ahead of it's time.

RememberThe3572548d ago

It was an amazing concept and it was a cool game, it was just ahead of it's time. I played the sh!t outta MAG, but the game itself played just okay. I'd love to have seen a sequel, even just a spiritual successor, especially with the next gen coming and the way cloud computing has advanced a game like that nowadays would be awesome.

Elwenil2548d ago

It may have been amazing if you played for SVER, but if you played for Raven or Valor, it was an unbalanced mess. I had some fun with it, but the player count was an illusion at best and false advertising at it's worst. The map and faction balance was so ridiculously skewed you knew who was going to win as soon as you saw what team you were against. It definitely had some interesting ideas, but was far from an amazing experience in my opinion. I would have much rather Zipper have made another SOCOM game rather than MAG.

darthv722548d ago

that game would make for a great battle royale release. So many players all at once... it was ahead of its time for a console shooter.

TheGamez1002549d ago

Was such an underrated game. One of my most favorite fps of last gen. So unfortunate zipper was closed down. Imagine if it was a success and thered be a 2nd game by now.....

TekoIie2549d ago (Edited 2549d ago )

I can think of many better games that I've yet to play...

"Almost 10 years ago the greatest first person shooter came out"

HAH. So is Planetside 2 now the best FPS ever? Because it does everything MAG can and does it far better. I'm afraid that MAG is basically your standard FPS but uses scale as it's selling point. The vast majority of shooters that focus on smaller scale matches have gameplay leaps and bounds better than MAG so it is definitely not the greatest FPS.

I know many people are going to try and refute this by telling me to look at the three factions but MAG has literally no character. The game is call 'Massive. Action. Game' for gods sake which is a contender for 'The Worst Title a Game Could Have' award. I've never been a fan of Zipper but I hear great things about them from their PS2 days. However, with MP gaining popularity in the generation that followed I think it says a lot that they couldn't keep up with the competition.

Knushwood Butt2549d ago

'HAH. So is Planetside 2 now the best FPS ever? Because it does everything MAG can and does it far better.'.

It was released years later.

Was there anything offering what MAG did when MAG was released?

TekoIie2549d ago

"Was there anything offering what MAG did when MAG was released?"

Yes, Planetside 1.

Knushwood Butt2549d ago

Fair enough.

Can't say I've played it, but I enjoyed MAG for a while.

FantasticBoss2548d ago

MAG was one of the very few games trying to do scale like it did, but I think it missed the mark. Wish it could have had a sequel though as they may have been able to iterate on it to create something pretty neat.

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Profchaos2548d ago

Sony had a awesome approach to online in the PS2 days with SOCOM co op that had games working together to achieve a tactical goal they pioneered voice chat on the PS2 for SOCOM but as they steamrolled ahead it was clear team Deathmatch would take over in popularity which shifted zippers approach so all their experience amounted for not much when designing online in the PS3 era.
It still was a decent game but couldn't stand out compared to cod which had millions of players consistently

yellowgerbil2549d ago

Loved mag had over 1700hrs into it across many accounts, remember my first 100 kill sabotage game, was insane

BLow2548d ago

Yes, so do I and not that game they released on PS3. I'm talking the one Zipper did and not Slant Six. At least Slant Six tried to do the series justice once they fixed the issues.

The one Zipper did didn't feel like Socom to me. It felt more like Ghost Recon to be honest. I absolutely loved the voice commands and I figured they would be even better on next gen hardware. They didn't even bother doing anything.

Maybe, I just wanted it more grounded and not so techy if that makes sense. I just wanted to go into jungles or missions just using my wits and patience and not have to use a bunch of gadgets. I wanted to be able to give orders with my voice to squad members. Yeah, they can at least have earpieces lol.

It's hard to explain but I know the old school Socom players know what I'm saying. Socom just had a certain feeling and the new game didn't feel that way. Slant Six yes. Zipper no...

We can only hope but if they bring it back they have to do it right. If not don't bother and just make something new. I rather have the memories I had with Socom be mostly positive than negative. Unless you pull a God of War, don't bother lol.

I've already said too much but that goes to show how much I loved Socom. Especially 1 and 2.....

Deathdeliverer2548d ago (Edited 2548d ago )

Game was simply ahead of its time. If mag came out now with improved graphics people would be blown away. Back then people whined about the graphics even though it had players literally everywhere. It was several great games in one. Battlefield, Ghost Recon, and Call of duty.

Hungryalpaca2548d ago

What exactly was it ahead of its time in? Player count? Planetside released in 2003 and and played count per match was over 300.

xkvcq2548d ago (Edited 2548d ago )

The BETA for MAG was one of my fondest gaming moments. I was highly anticipating the start of the beta servers but I had school that day. I had started downloading it that morning as soon as it was available and just when it finished downloading I found out school was cancelled, last minute, because of weather. BEST. SNOW DAY. EVER. I played the beta all day, continuing to put off my homework :P

TekoIie2547d ago (Edited 2547d ago )

Well have I got news for you pal! Planetside 2 has been available for nearly 4 years on the PS4 and longer on PC and people still aren't blown away. Maybe the novelty of scale is actually overrated and people don't care as much about it which is why MAG failed when multiplayer shooters were at peak popularity during it's lifetime?

If you were blown away by 256 players in 2010 why would you not have been blown away by 1000 roughly 2-3 years later?

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