How did I know a bunch of PC fanboys were going to get their feelings hurt, and how did I know you would be one of them dchalfont?

Its a joke dudes, I deliberately didnt insult your precious PC's. You have nothing to be defensive about.
Get over it, live with it, or forget about it.

And thanks, for calling me a winner.

can't have been much of a PC gamer to be forking out every 6 months.

edit: yeh I'm not quite sure why so many people get worked up about it since it doesn't matter as long as they can play it. PC gaming's a hobby and like any hobby it can be expensive but you don't need to spend a lot to run PC games which is something a lot of people don't get.
You just need to spend a little time to make some well informed choices about the hardware you buy.

edit2: @dchalfont, I think we're safe with SC2. It's not going to be a resource hog like Crysis but it will definitely still look good in another decade considering the resolutions you can run current games on.

You must be doing it wrong then, because I bought my gtx280 2 years ago and I max EVERY GAME except crysis.

You do realise that not even a 5970 can max crysis right?, as in even with no AA at 1080p it cant get 60 frame average on very high, it gets close, about 50 frames.

The fact is that crysis was future proofed with it's settings, like pc games used to be, they were stupid to make it so graphically intensive but it will pay off in time. I hope to god that they do the same with starcraft 2 ( although not to the same degree ) because people will play that game for the next 20 years and look how badly SC1 aged because it didn't have options above what current tech could support.

@Raf1k1

That's my point though, is that the resolutions of today will be outdated in years to come, just as they were in the past, so it needs to support much higher settings and resolution in order to keep its looks.

I can't tell if you are trolling, but NOTHING could max out Crysis when it came out, so you were foolish to invest that much money. It was made to be scalable for current GPU tech.

And my Samsung LED LCD is a pretty badass monitor via HDMI, set to PC input for no input latency, tested lower than stupid Game mode.

You asked a valid question, and NO it is not the same with video cards anymore, A freaking $90 GT240 paired with a core 2 duo will run any multiplatform game(thiking Fallout 3/L4D2/HAWX benchmarks here) at higher settings than consoles, and you get a superior product with M/KB and mods (google FOOK2)

I'm sorry I didn't uber-hack it. I just never fealt like bothering that much. I'm sorry that I didn't overclock everything in my PC's so they can eat up so much electricity than I have to pay every penny that I had left. I'm so sorry that EVERY SINGLE PC user is in denial and believes that PC gaming is cheaper....yeah it is cheaper when you pirate all your games off the internet not supporting the creators of your favorite game.

Right, you've never purchased a used game before, its the same crap, piracy with taxes and giving a few 1000 high school drop outs a job.
From the way you act, you're probably one of them.

I don't think you understand.

There's no need for uber hacks, overclocks or anything else. All you have to do is a few google searches for the hardware you're interested in and you'll find tonnes of information about it and just how good it is.

Also, as a PC gamer, I'm surprised you didn't have an active interest in PC gaming as thats what helps keep PC gamers up to date with what's going on in the world of PCs.

edit: @dchalfont, the more comments he makes the more convinced I am that he wasn't much of a PC gamer because if he was he'd be making comments that make sense even if they were anti-PC.

haha, B.S you bought a pc for crysis, the way your talking you're probably at your public library because you don't even own a pc.

I just payed $79aus for ME2, $74aus for Bioshock 2, $82aus for Supreme commander 2, and $79 aus for AVP

The console Price for all of those games= $109aus, thats a pretty big F-ing savings right there, up to $40 per game, PC gaming is much cheaper, and if your not an idiot you can build your own PC and have one that maxes every game for years, as I and the others here have

@ dchalfont :

Public libary??? :D that was funny. Well my friend I'm at work if you have to know. I'm the manager of an engraving store here in NYC and I make pretty good money. So much so that I can easily afford to buy 4-5 PS3 games every month plus 4 blu-ray movies to go along with that and it doesn't hurt me in any way financially. So let's just put this high school drop out...good for nothing bimbo on the side.

Also if you need to know I have at the moment 3 PC's sitting at home. But I only use one and even that just very rearly....my gf uses it way more than me. Believe it or not I did get a PC JUST because of Crysis because I was so crazy for how it looked I said that I have to have this game no matter...but also that didn't hurt me financially what so ever. My point is only that PC gaming is more expensive than console gaming. Buy a console you are good for 6-8years. Let me ask you.....out of todays games which is the one that a 6-8year old PC will run??? ...............that's what I though. Also the only reason I started this whole argument is this:

" Playstation 3 - $299.99
40" LCD HDTV - $599.99-$799.99
Aliens VS Predator PS3 - $59.99-$79.99

Total:

$959.98-$1179.97 "

#1 Who the hell in their right mind thinks that a gamer will buy a PS3, an HDTV just for a SINGLE game??? I mean come on...how unrealistic is that?? Plus you buy that HDTV for watching....wait for it...wait for it....TV programing and movies!!!!! Not just plaing games. You buy that system because there are other games on it as well that you can purchase in the future for it. I did buy more PC games later...like Gears of War 1, Rome Total War (which I play till this day), Sims 2, Sism 3....all the CSI games for my girlfriend (she's crazy about CSI) so I used the PC for other games as well. But a PC can be used for other things as well so I didn't mind the investment really.

Also if you guys come up with the argument that you have your PC connected to an HDTV than....what the hell are we talking about here??? You spent that $599-$799 as well. So than that leaves us with the $399 PS3......I think a decent PC is more than that. at least by a good $200. So don't try to justify the prices here when you guys become hypocrites in minutes.

EDIT:

@Arnon

Hey smart guy!! Thanks for providing me with your PC's specs. This is how much it is now:

Your Motherboard: Around $120
Your Processor: Around $70
Your Video Card: Around $140
Your Memory (8gigs..woah): Around $250
Your HDD: Around $100
Your Power Supply: Around $75
Your Gaming mouse: Around $60

In total: $815+tax

Let's not even calculate your 19" monitor (hahahahahahaha)which was $114.

Why did you pay so much if a much cheaper PC can do better than what the PS3 is capable of???

Your whole argument of PC gaming is cheaper just failed right there.

Anyone can check the prices of his PC components. He listed them all in his blog.

Thank you! Have a nice day!

O god its turn to the whole my ____ is bigger then your ____ argument, Well mine is bigger then both of yours so lets end it there ok?

PS:Ares84PS3

If your a manager then you should be busy at work instead of arguing how many PS3's you can buy in a month with some random guy on the internetz. Maybe we should start a who's the bigger idiot contest see who wins that?

Rofl why would you upgrade every 6 months? That's not PC gaming, that's just making stupid decisions. Also, you realize that it doesn't matter the screen size for resolutions... except of course if you're doing it on a TV, because you're not exactly sitting 10" away from your screen. The resolution is not dependent on the size of your monitor. It's dependent on how many vertical and horizontal lines are produced on the screen. It's the reason why a 720p 40" HDTV and a 1080p 40" HDTV exist at the same time. Do you even know what the "i" and "p" stand for?

"Also I got a 136 games for my PS3 and they ALL run without any problems!"

Just from this statement alone, it pretty much confirms you had absolutely no idea what you were doing with your PC. Also good job comparing past prices of a GPU with the current prices of a PS3, which you know... basically contradicted everything you were trying to convey.

"#1 Who the hell in their right mind thinks that a gamer will buy a PS3, an HDTV just for a SINGLE game??? I mean come on...how unrealistic is that?? Plus you buy that HDTV for watching....wait for it...wait for it....TV programing and movies!!!!! Not just plaing games."

...You're an idiot, aren't you? The reason the TV was brought up was because Bathyj (Yes, I know you were joking, man. That line "YOU'RE A WINNER" is from a song by The Lonely Island) brought up the fact that you needed some large ass HDTV to experience Aliens VS Predator at it's amazingly max resolution of 720p (lolz).

Maybe its all in my head then, disgusts me to have to go to the store to drop $65 total on a PS3 game that I will beat in 10 hours only to have it collect dust, I refuse to contribute to Gamestop. So I use gamefly now for my PS3 needs lol.

But I don't have a problem spending money on cheaper PC games, cost me $33 for Bioshock 2 Steam. (Steam deals add up for massive savings)

Just calculated all my multiplatforms PC games, Dirt 2, Mass Effect, MWF2, W@W, Dragon Age, GTA IV, Red Faction G, SF IV, Borderlands, Dark Sector, Far Cry 2, L4D, L4D2, NFS Shift, Assasin's Creed. Came out to $359. Console price...$960 ouch!!!!!!!

I think the HDTV argument isn't too valid for PC pricing, everyone has an HDTV for everyday needs, everyone has a PC for everyday needs, buy something with a good processor so IF you want to PC game, that $100-$200 GPU investment isn't too difficult.

Well you ____ ____, it just shows that your a ____ ____ and all the other _____ have been ____ ____ for the last ____. Why don't you ____ ____.

Seriously there plenty of other ways to waste your time why not go have an argument with someone outside?

Best to quick before you guys end up looking as stupid as this xD

http://img695.imageshack.us...

"Your Motherboard: Around $120
Your Processor: Around $70
Your Video Card: Around $140
Your Memory (8gigs..woah): Around $250
Your HDD: Around $100
Your Power Supply: Around $75
Your Gaming mouse: Around $60

In total: $815+tax"

ASUS P5Q Pro - $129.99
Intel Pentium Dual Core E5200 - $64.50
ATI Radeon HD 4830 512 MB GDDR3 - CANCELLED ($52.01 on eBay)
8 (4, 2 GB) DDR2 - $168 - http://www.google.com/produ...
Western Digital 640 GB 7200 RPM - $69.99
Corsair 450w Power Supply - $69.99
Acer X193W+BD - CANCELLED ($125.00 on eBay)
Logitech G500 - $56.99

TOTAL - $736.47

Playstation 3 - $299.99
Western Digital 2.5" 640 GB - $109.00
40" 1080p LCD HDTV - $625

TOTAL - $1033.99

I'm not even sure why you're factoring in my mouse, as any mouse is compatible with PC gaming.

Amazing. You're actually paying more to get the full experience out of your PS3, and I even factored my monitor in for you.. Next time, actually look up the information before you randomly guess numbers.

Good job owning yourself, once again.

What's with the 19" monitor comment?
Come on, you know PC gamers are hobbiests and as such they do tend to invest in larger screens for their gaming pleasure.

Than tell me Raf1k1, why did a PC gamer calculated an HDTV's price into the cost of playing a game on the PS3 showing that it's that much more expensive to game on a console when OBVIOUSLY PC gamers game on HDTV's as well.

WTF guys??? Why are you guys such a hypocrites ?? You can't just change s*th up to suite your argument.

@ dchalfont

Dude...I hope you do realize that a couch is more comfortable than any desk chair. Don't tell me the opposite because that will be really going overboard with this crap. I'm sorry but I take the couch every day over a desk chair. That is not one argument you will win buddy. Plus fat slob?? yeah so according to your logic anyone that sits on a couch is a fat slob.....you might have to discuss this with the whole world because everyone will disagree with you.

Hang on a minute. I'm not the one who said that and normally I wouldn't add a HDTV into the console gaming equation as it's not a requirement to play console games. I would however add a monitor/HDTV to the PC equation as it's usually something you'd need as a PC gamer.

The only reason I'm arguing against you is that you're not making fair comments. You're being overly negative about it for some reason.

I'll let dchalfont answer you're question since it was him who said it lol.

edit: I agree, the couch is more comfortable but then again it comes down to the individual. Some people do prefer desk chairs as they're usually the ones who invest in the really comfortable ones with a large price tag.

"Hang on a minute. I'm not the one who said that and normally I wouldn't add a HDTV into the console gaming equation as it's not a requirement to play console games. I would however add a monitor/HDTV to the PC equation as it's usually something you'd need as a PC gamer."

I would not add monitor or even whole PC for gaming expense 'coz I need computer to pay my bills online and manage my netflix, oh and surf webs and use N4G.

You're talking about a PC for everyday use (which wouldn't be very good for a PC gamer) whereas I'm talking about gaming PCs.

just how close or far away you have to sit, resolution is everything, and even a 19" will be playing at 900p, something you won't be seeing on a PS3. Resolution makes the game looks better, and has gameplay advantages.