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Modern Warfare 2 Campers: Camp This

Kombo: "Camping is the tactic of waiting for enemies to come to the player or useful objects to appear rather than actively seeking them out. By my definition, camping is a strategy that is on the verge of ruining one of the best FPS shooters I've ever played: Modern Warfare 2. It's a disgusting-talentless-trait that sucks any and all life out of the match immediately."

Alcon Caper5975d ago

This blog is stupid. That's what the Killcam is for. It's impossible for a player to spend more then 1, maybe 2 kills in the same spot, no matter how "remote." So to rack up kills you're forced to move around. The only thing that MAY make it difficult to locate someone's position is when they're using thermal. You can't really tell where they're shooting from when that happens.

If I get camp-killed, I go straight for that spot and take em out.

If they're smart, they change their position to counter your revenge and take you out again. Domination makes it easy to know where they're coming from. Regardless, it's your own emotion that is getting the best of you and if you get killed by the same "camper" twice in a row, you deserve it.

This blog doesn't take into account the evolution of these FPS's. When playing COD4, you began to see people pick out the camp spots way ahead of time and were able to counter them before campers took advantage of them (unless it was the infamous glitch spot in Overgrown).

MW2 will never be people just sitting in corners because of things like thermal sights, heart beat sensors, and UAVs. Plus a majority of people playing online are casual players that like to run around and have fun.

By the time every player get so conniving that all they do is sit in the corner, I as well as many other people would have already moved on to better things...

SixZeroFour5975d ago (Edited 5975d ago )

"It's impossible for a player to spend more then 1, maybe 2 kills in the same spot, no matter how "remote""

thats the thing, campers already know this and most likely move to a different place (but still in the same camping area) knowing you would come back for then and take you out again...and for ppl that havent been killed by the person yet, they dont have to luxury of teh kill cam so the get camp killed

2 of my friends do this a lot...and then brag about how good they are :S and one of them even go as far as saying that they are done with halo cause its too easy compared to cod...what makes me laugh at his statement even more is that he hasnt won a halo match for 2+ years now

heres another kicker...that same guy complains SOO MUCH when hes getting camp killed from someone in his spot, and complains on the mic how much of a camper the guy is

Alcon Caper5975d ago

"campers already know this and most likely move to a different place (but still in the same camping area) knowing you would come back for then and take you out again"

You don't have to go back to that spot again, you know... People let their emotions get the better of them and have to get the Payback. Just go somewhere else.

SixZeroFour5975d ago

i know ppl dont have to go back...but the problem occurs because the camping spot is a place usually very active with players

another thing i pointed out was that even if YOU have killcam and know what area the person is at, other ppl usually dont know that YET, so the guy gets a couple more camp kills

i also classify spawn killing in domination matches as kinda a camp kill because they just hide where its visible for them to see when ppl spawn, thus having a set shot, while spawners are practically sitting ducks (hated this in cod4 as well, even if i was on the team that TRAPPED the otehr team in a spawn lock) i get bored, and there really is no competition

do objective games really matter if the majority of players are camping for a tactical nuke? i highly doubt it...played on ps3 with my brothers account, fun for a what it is, but not for a team game

Alcon Caper5975d ago

Haha, I'd like to meet the camper that's good enough to get a nuke.

SixZeroFour5974d ago

my brother was one of them...lol, not a full on camper, but he does stay in specific spots for a majority of his kills

he got 5 nukes in a 2 hour span of gameplay one time, and usually gets atleast 1 nuke a day when ever he plays....he only plays about 2 hours at a time cause he gets bored easily, lol

on psn he was sabong or xsabong or something like that, when he was borrowing his buddies ps3 cause he was on vacay, but hes back now so we dont have the ps3 until i get one

bunfighterii5974d ago

I agree Alcon Caper. Camping will get you like 5 kills max before someone like me will go and get payback. If you want a high killstreak you can't camp in the same spot for more than 3 or 4 kills, because once people know where you are they'll come back for you. All it takes is a semtex to kill a camper.

The key to getting payback in a camper is come around a different way to where they shot you from. Eg. if you shot head on going down a hallway or whatever, come around behind them or from the side. It's not that hard.

You can't survive long if you just camp. You've gotta keep moving so people don't know where you are.

PoSTedUP5974d ago

it's not the camping that ruined the MP for me. i use to kill campers with a smores stick back on cod4. MWF2 gameplay is too much like cod4 and i played that game for 3 years straight, it feels too the same. so i cant play MWF2 i need something new.

i respect a camper if he has fun doing so.

evrfighter5974d ago (Edited 5974d ago )

bad company 2 does a great job in elimating most camping.

1)blow up a few walls through a building that leads directly to whoever's camping
2)campers won't be able to handle a tank shell's AOE damage.
3)when a camper gets settled in most of the time it will be in vain as the the crates were blown up and the action is now further down the map. Stragglers left in the vicinity will soon be wasted.
4)squad member 1 "camper just got me from the attic"
squad member 2 "it's alright just spawn on me I'm right where you died"

I finally understand why camping is a problem on console. On a pc it's usually the aggressors that come out 40-5 while Camper's usually break even. I have found that on the 360 it's the opposite. I can make some sense of it as there are camping spots that would not be viable on pc as twitch shooting would make short work of them.

Camping won't go away on a console until mouse and keyboards are incorporated. I ordered a mouse/keyboard adapter for my upcoming 360 purchase. I feel sorry for anyone I'm playing against that doesn't have one :)

ya I'd rather pay extra to continue to play in my style than have to resort to camping.

ReservoirDog3165974d ago (Edited 5974d ago )

Not exactly true. When the entire enemy team camps, it turns impossible and a lot of the time you run into a camping clan. Ruin everything.

edit: Also it's camp or die in hardcore tdm. It's a slight change of pace but it's almost laughable how everyone camps in hc tdm. In CoD4, hc meant a little more tactical than regular tdm. In mw2, it's camp or die. And you best believe I'd rather die than camp.

DarkTower8055974d ago

Am I the only one tired of seeing these lame, whiny MW2 hate articles on the front page like they're news? These articles may make valid points, but they belong in the forums.

Please guys, stop approving this stuff.

xTruthx5974d ago

alcon I really disagree, Ive gotten 25+ kills in the same area moving back a forward.

thegood335974d ago

Camping doesn't bother me much, unless it's the whole team. But honestly, the game would be too crazy if every single person ran around with Akimbo shottys

boodybandit5974d ago

You're kidding right?
I mean have you ever played Modern Warfare 2?
How do you think most people get nukes off?
CAMPING!

It's easy as hell getting 25 killstreaks camping.
One real easy place to do it is on Derail holding down the stairs in the warehouse on the middle of the map. Claymores, scavenger, too close, M1014 shotgun and grenade launcher on scar, tar or AK47.

SilentNegotiator5974d ago

I was NOT expecting a Sen. Larry Craig joke, lol

JonnyBadfinger5974d ago

Im a camper... there i said it.
Dont give a f***en rat arse if it pisses people off. I like to think of it as strategic positioning between objectives.

And hey your the same idiots that arent good enough to take me out. You americans running about on your solid green bar connections while i sit in a corner red bar laughing my way to a nuke.

But that being said when i do (though very rarely) find a green bar game, i do tend to run about.

And as if this blogger thinks MW2 is one of the best FPS games ever... the game is trash, i havent turned my xbox on in about 2 weeks now cause i do not want bloody invites to the bloody worst online shooter of 2009.

StanLee5974d ago (Edited 5974d ago )

Killstreak rewards. It's what this game has boiled down to. Camp to a killstreak reward and hope it get's you to greater killstreak rewards. I've never played so many Team Deathmatch games that reached the time limited, even in Ground War. Even Domination and Demolition games are campfests. How am I and possibly 1 other person the only one trying to capture an objective? Why am I and so few others the only persons using UAV as a Killstreak? There needs to be a Promod mode; no killstreaks, no perks, no auto aim, 5 second spawn delay, no points for kills in objective game modes unless you kill a defender or offender, points for capturing and securing objectives. It comes down to you, your equipment, your reaction time, and your aim.

The Happy Baby5973d ago

You aint seen camping until you've played a couple matches of it.
Camping at its worst. Makes me want to puke sometimes.

bacon135973d ago

This article is a whine fest and complaining about campers has been noob talk since the days of Counterstrike. It's very easy to either kill campers or completely avoid them in MW2. It's your own fault if you blow a gasket and keep running into the same position which is being covered by an enemy. Learn some tactics for christsakes.

Jinxstar5973d ago (Edited 5973d ago )

This argument goes back decades. In Street fighter when someone uses the same "Trip" "kick" or "Uppercut" that an opposing player can not get around then it is "Cheap" or whatever term you want to use... A true street fighter player will tell you "There is no such thing as cheap. You do whatever it is that works and you use it to win." Turtling, Spamming or whatever are perfectly fine tactics because if they weren't it would be programed into the game that you couldn't do them... If its in the game then use it. Glitching however is not part of the "Fair fight" imo just like forcing your connection to lag or using detection mods or something.

If it is legally in the game though and ANYONE can do it then there is no reason to complain. Just because you don't like someone elses tactics doesn't make them a worse player. As a matter of fact if their KDR is higher they are actually a better player... I hate snipers. Why? Because they always kill me... What do I do? Learn to snipe or use better anti sniper tactics and perks... You can't complain if it's programmed in the game. What do you want people using sprint 99% of the time and shooting on the move. Thats not how the army does it. They dig in and hold the line and force the enemy back a small piece at a time...

Cry more about campers. It ain't gonna change. you could always pick up a game thats less camper friendly like Battlefield BC or Killzone 2 or Halo. If you wanna play MW2 then you get campers, Duel wield shotgunners, Glitchers, Modders, cheaters and annoying 10 year olds screaming racist hate into teh mic and jerks playing loud as hip hop.

Nevers5973d ago

When a soldier finds a good strategic spot to kill his enemies that is what is expected of them. You don't go running willy-nilly into the streets screaming "KILL ME, PRZ!!" wishing for a Teabag....like so many lazy gamers wish it could be. You die like that... this is a game that is supposed to simulate combat during modern warfare not the Revolutionary War...

I don't camp doorways or closets cuz that's just asking for a faceful of nades (and downright boring) but if I have a perch and people are gonna run themselves into my bullets trying to take that position, it's their fault for choosing to be fodder.

People that can't kill a camper and complain about it should also maybe try playing flight simulators like they're boats... whiny, unskilled, unthinking, lazy...

Same people complain when a team uses (omgWHAT?!?!?!) something people in combat call "tactics". "...it's sooooo unfair that your team is working together to kill our motley group of morons." Sorry ... grow a pair, talk to your team... or leave and get a game you understand how to play. I suggest Pong... there's no camping in Pong.

SixZeroFour5973d ago

you know...im fine with camping in team deathmatch games...its in objective type games where i hate camping, i mean if the purpose is to get flags and hold down territories, then teams should be doing that rather than camping to get a nuke end the game

again, ive seen my brother do it so many times that i literally smh...the tactical nuke was the worse thought out killstreak reward ever, for a deathmatch or team deathmatch gametype, its understandable, but in no way should it be allowed to be used in an objective gametype

Jinxstar5973d ago

@ mr anon

I can see that. Goal oriented matches should be played as such but the hard part is getting paired with people you don't know and having to rely on them. I stopped playing hardcore because whenever I got an air drop I would get killed by my own team members who wanted my reward. People are selfish unless your playing with people you actually know it's hard to put trust in them.

Wrote this on my phone. Sorry for spelling errors

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touch20215975d ago

of the writer seems to be that camping is annoying in general. I don't like having to use perks just and solely to find campers. And sometimes even when I see them on the kill cam if I seek them out again they are waiting for me in a different section of the room and shoot me up as soon as I enter the entrance.

Where did the action go is the question? I can hide in a closet in real life and scare people too. It's just not fun.

bunfighterii5974d ago

you just gotta play smart. if you know where abouts they are just avoid the area or make a bit of effort to outsmart them.

people who habitually camp in MW are easy to kill cos they're always in the same spot.

respawnaction5974d ago

...becuase I and many other sites write about campers and how teamwork is never used and get a lot of hate for it. I strongly agree with you, which is why I can't wait for MAG and BC 2, because at least people aren't just going for killstreaks. That is what I feel ruined MW2, the high kill killstreaks. Everybody wants to get the AC130 and Nuke, but can only go about doing so by camping. Sure you get the occasional person who gets it by skill, but a lot of times it is campers. MW1 had the highest be 7 which is a good number to still roam the map instead of alley ways.

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PunksOnN4G1023d ago

The DOG is legit Broken if ur hiding in a room or grass he turns his head even if ur behind a closed door he turns his head and barks letting them know where u at thats PAY TO WIN!!!!!

LucasRuinedChildhood1023d ago

I hope all the assholes who buy these get stuck in lobbies with each other. I skipped new COD games for a long time and a short time with MW2 convinced me to go back to on a hiatus.

With the skill-based matchmaking (engagement-based would be more accurate), I imagine this will make the game even more miserable for most players when the matchmaking has decided it's time for a tough lobby.

I played the OG MW2 recently on the Series X and it's disheartening how much more fun it is. I don't even care about the balance issues anymore. lol

PunksOnN4G1023d ago

My friends dont play with me anymore i am former pro player and i even streamed on MLG for RX gaming the team i played for... My KD is always high 5-6kd my friends who i went to school with are not good wht so ever so with SBMM kicking in its always putting us in TOP TIER lobbys and they cant hang now they dont even tell me when they getting on LOL

ManMarmalade1022d ago

I recently started playing OG MW2 again and I'm having a blast. Feels like I'm in high school again.

fr0sty1023d ago (Edited 1023d ago )

Welcome to COD under MS. It's all downhill from here, they're going to be looking to make that $68B back as fast as possible, at any expense to the player.

StarkR3ality1023d ago

The deal hasn't even closed yet you pleb. CoD has been doing stuff like this since the loot boxes in WWII.

Nice try though pal.

TheColbertinator1022d ago

Activision has never needed Microsoft or anybody for that matter to act like greedy bastards

PunksOnN4G1022d ago

why did my 2nd comment about SBMM get downvited LOL?? Do we have people who Enjoy trash SBMM tbh make sense it caters to LOW KD players and u will never get better playing with the same trahs everyday LOL

andy851023d ago

Probably gonna see more of this BS once the deal is fully done..Gotta recoup that 70B.

Jin_Sakai1023d ago (Edited 1023d ago )

Look at Minecraft. The game hasn’t went anywhere since Microsoft bought them. No 4K, no 120fps, no graphics pack, and no Ray Tracing. Just some new biomes, mobs, and more skins as usual.

Same could be said about Rare. Who knows what will happen to Activision once they’re under Microsoft’s roof. We can all take a good guess though.

PunksOnN4G1023d ago

TBH they did update it by accident then they pulled the update down on xsx and xss i remeber the XSX version having ray tracing but the S did not. Then after people seen that it was updated it was removed that same day

peppeaccardo1023d ago

No way !!! Nobody wouild think they would monetize on items that weak asses will use to get advantage during multiplayer action !!! I would never think they would do that ... I mean is a free to play game after all ! /S
Wait once M$ will put their greasy hands all over Activizion and you will see what awaits the "lucky" ones who will play this slot machine of a game. Sooooo Lame !

jznrpg1023d ago

They way it works is you give them money and more money and more money.

anast1022d ago

It's a true phenomenon that people haven't figured this out yet.

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