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No Dev Console Available in Battlefield: Bad Company 2

Developer Johan Anderson tweeted today the words "No Console", pointing out to gamers that Bad Company 2 wouldn't have any access to a developer console of any sort.

It's worth noting that it hasn't been removed - a console was never planned for the game.

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Wayward5980d ago

Wiser words have never been said ;)! To say it would help stop cheating is like holding up a banner and saying "we can't be bothered". If a game is coded correctly you would never be able to cheat with a console...

Government Cheese5979d ago

What exactly is a console, in this sense?

Wayward5979d ago (Edited 5979d ago )

I'm not sure how much PC gaming you play, but a console is normally where settings can be changed in a command line interface. It's used often by server admins to change maps and use RCON, and by users to do things such as changing nicks without using a menu.

randomwiz5979d ago

lets just hope those no dedicated servers rumors are false

Pandamobile5979d ago

Developer console. Area to input functions and change variables. What the developers use to debug the games.

It's nothing major for the average pub gamer, but it's kind of a kick in the butt for anyone hoping to start a BFBC2 competetive ladder. It also means that there won't be much in the way of demo recording or playback either.

I dunno how we'll access RCON commands, either...

Wayward5979d ago

You'll access rcon by paying EA! (just joking - one would hope!)

STK0265979d ago

While I'm still pretty sure the game will be amazing, it seems that EA (or DICE, whoever is making the decisions) has been dissing MW2 on certain things, and yet, are slowly going down the same path (but not as far).

Raf1k15979d ago

Battlefield 3 is the one I'm most looking forward to so as long as they don't gimp that I'm not too fussed.

I'm still getting this though as the PS3 version was great and I'll like it even more on PC.

Wayward5979d ago

Thats the silly thing about this whole taking things away - If they had not moaned about COD6 doing it, it would'nt be as bad

TheIneffableBob5979d ago

Bad Company 2 looks more like a play-for-fun kind of game. You'll have to wait until Battlefield 3 if you want the next competitive Battlefield game.

Wayward5979d ago

I like to play all my games for fun :-P!

zonetrooper55979d ago (Edited 5979d ago )

Totally agree with you there and I see you post on the BF:BC2 forums as well. I think I may just cancel my pre-order for the PC and just order it for my 360 or PS3.

evrfighter5979d ago (Edited 5979d ago )

WAIT A MINUTE!

We have access to the config file right????

Bad Company 2 is not balanced for a dev console?
Say it ain't so

I'm beginning to feel like my competitive pc gaming days have become numbered. If they pull an old school EA (driven by greed) at the last second. I may just very well end up going casual and buying a 360 and Modern Warfare 2. At least then I could have a good time with my family and co-workers who all own one except for me.

:(

webeblazing5979d ago

i feel sorry for pc gamer not as much as console gamer cuz while we argue over dumb $hit devs is rapin us more n more didnt game 2 much on pc as i was growing up loved quake n ut but know what u talkin bout wit the console. beginning of the gen started the rape in its gettin worst DLC was free, 60 games, alot of mixed rehashed $hit, everbody looks the other way when dev ship broken games and hardware , no dedicated servers, no kind of mods 4 mp, i could go on n on of how consoles could of moved toward pc content wise but look what we do

Nihilism5979d ago

That doesn't make any sense.

Ok so you want to cancel your pre-order on principle because there is no dev console.....so that you can pay more for an inferior version...that still doesn't have dev console. Where's the logic in that?

If your going to buy it, do it right and get it on pc.

STK0265979d ago

Well, I guess he'd buy it for a console, to play with more people. Just like MW2, sure, it looks better on PC and has the "custom feature" of m/k support, which is preferred by most people when it comes to FPS games. However, the X360 community, and even the PS3 one, are significantly bigger than the PC one. So, it's not unusual for some to pick the console version when the PC version doesn't offer all the features they usually expect from PC games.

DDclarke5979d ago

I kind of get the feeling that is what EA is hoping. They are trying to kill of PC gaming - its better for them.

Lich1205979d ago

I don't know much about this game but was hoping it would be like BF2 (one of my all time favorite shooters). I noticed people mentioning battlefield 3, has this been announced and if so, can anyone help me out with any content thats been shown? It would be much appreciated.

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DDclarke5980d ago

It seems EA are intent on killing the PC version of this game. Why bother releasing it on PC if they are going to be half-arsed about it?

Cernunnos5979d ago

They just pulled an Infinity Ward

DDclarke5979d ago

I vote that gets added to the dictionary! "abj. To remove standard features for no given reason".

Cernunnos5979d ago

"3.1 -
I vote that gets added to the dictionary! "abj. To remove standard features for no given reason""
- And being generally lazy.

bjornbear5979d ago

@ elven

did you just make that?! =O

THATS AWESOME!

and so true...

Elven65979d ago

Unfortunately I didn't, someone else made it.

"by InfinityFail Oct 23, 2009"

Seems to be the only contribution, I'm gonna be using that phrase for a LONG time. :P

mastiffchild5979d ago

But you could add:to forget you were once your own company and turn into Activision's equally greedy, corner cutting, penny pinching gimp that no longer cares about the quality of the product your customers play as long as it ups the income stream enough for you to buy some of those nice rubber masks with the built in pool ball gags that kotick loves you to wear for him at the weekend.

Or:to hike your prices in only in areas that will allow you to split the gaming community and allow you to get away with blue murder,and all of the above, while the gaming community ignores what you did and keeps fighting with itself. See also: removing features strategically instead of risking affront by doing it across the board.

IW really pulleed the old divide and rule on the gaming community and judged it just right that a loud faction of the console gaming world would immediately rejoice at the PC gamers problems even if they SHOULD all have wanted dedicted servers AS WELL as PC gamers-as I said divide and rule worked like a charm for them over MW2 and even after some big words on the subject it's nbgimnning to look like EA might well have noticed the cash IW/Acti made and saved with their various decisions over the game and are going, though not as far(at least they had/will have betas on some platforms), down the same damn road. Which makes the fact we couldn't stand up for ourselves and make IW listen even more tragic, imo.

Mark my words-we'll pay,and already are in lost features, missing features and unilateral hikes, through the nose for less and less quality and smaller and smaller advances in gaming as a whole if we don't lose all the platform specific love and hatred that makes us so easy to pull stunts like this on. Rise up my gaming bnrothers: we have nothing to lose but our fanboyism!

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PotNoodle5979d ago

Man, they were doing everything right till now..

Nihilism5979d ago

I'm starting to wonder why I pre-ordered this game...

bjornbear5979d ago

its just the console man, its nothing about the actual game

ok its a set back to the usual PC owner ritual of gaming, but it won't detract from any actual gameplay =/

but fine, to each his one =)

Nihilism5979d ago

Yes it is just the console commands, but it's one of many indications that the pc version is almost a straight port. I don't care about the commands for server options, but you can change graphics settings and effects and sound, and mouse sensitivity, and draw distances etc etc, way beyond what you can choose in game when you have a console key, you can basically change any part of the engine or gameplay with it, so it is kind of a big deal to not have it.

Saying that it prevents cheating is B.S anyway. Valve games all have console keys and they don't have prevalent cheating.

Like in MW2, there was a console key, they just disabled it, I don't see how they could not have a console key when it is usually an important tool for the developers when making the game.

ChozenWoan5979d ago

Within three days after this game is released on PC there will be a hack to access the console.

webeblazing5979d ago

i get what u saying dchalfront even tho im a console gamer i wish more gamer point the finger bout whats wrong then saying what yogi the bear said

Nihilism5979d ago (Edited 5979d ago )

I hear you. People are too complacent, and willing to accept whatever they are given. EA recently cancelled all support for online modes for a bunch of their games. So the online mode is now useless. That is why people want dedicated servers, so they can play them whenever they want and don't have to worry about that happening. I personally don't know why they don't include offline MP in games anymore. It's another feature that people have just accepted is gone. But now people are having to be stuck with lagging online matches etc.

Things all PC games should have. AA support, mod support, console key, dedicated servers, no DRM, proper graphics options.

But all of those things are slowing being taken away :(

@Pandamobile

That's only on the graphics side, gameplay wise it's copy and paste, even for a multiplat there should be other options made available to us.

Pandamobile5979d ago

I've been following a lot of the BFBC2 devs on Twitter over the last couple months and I can guarantee you that the game isn't a console port.

The engine was designed from the ground up on PC and takes full advantage of all modern PC hardware from quad core CPU's, DX11 GPU's, stereoscopic 3D, and lots more.

They've got the original Battlefield 2 team working on the PC gameplay (and I'm sure a hefty chunk of the BF2 devs are working quietly on Battlefield 3, too).

Worry not.

bjornbear5979d ago

exactly

lack of a console shouldn't put the game's purchase on the fence if it doesn't impair the game in any way (lets hope it doesn't, no one knows yet)

but I agree with your comments, obviously a gamer has to have an opinion and a voice, but there are easier ways to change things than not-to-purchase a game

say, email them, or petition - these tend to work

all i'm saying is, don't let something this small prevent you from playing what is going to be an AWESOME game!! =D

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20 Amazing Games That Have Completely Disappeared From Storefronts

Cultured Vultures: In the spirit of preserving some kind of history of this industry, we’ve decided to list some of the best games that you just simply can’t get hold of digitally at the minute.

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TheEnigma313828d ago

I just started playing Spec op. I've had it for years on steam and forgot about it. Such a good game.

EvertonFC827d ago (Edited 827d ago )

Fantastic game,.so underated

Cacabunga827d ago

Yes great game spec ops! Since the time we’ve been asking sony to make one:/

Auto Modelista.. a PS2 capcom racer!! A blast to play and great graphics!
Maximo!
Rival Schools!

LordoftheCritics827d ago

Spec Ops: The Line was super dark.

Incredible story.

SheenuTheLegend827d ago

all the games in the above list are bang on. this is the only reason we need backwards compatibility and physical presense of games for the upcoming future, no matter what.

Yi-Long828d ago

Honorable mention to the excellent Driveclub, one of the best racing games of all-time and one of my favourite games ever.

melons828d ago

yes! incredible rain effects; so good to drive along in rain with your Spotify playlist blaring

Skuletor827d ago

I really wanted a MotorStorm using the same engine, Driveclub is easily one of the best looking games on PS4 and I'm surprised they didn't even give it a PS4 Pro patch.

ravens52827d ago

Yes indeed. May just install it on my PS5. You know, physical copy and all.

monkey602827d ago

I adored Driveclub and the Bike expansion. I also loved Motorstorm. Evolution shutting down was a crime

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darthv72827d ago

Outrun Online Arcade, Sega Rally Online Arcade, After Burner Climax... all good stuff. I keep my 360 hooked up to play these as well as the TMNT games that were also delisted.

Skuletor827d ago

I have quite a few of these. Timed licenses suck.

Terry_B827d ago (Edited 827d ago )

wow...I have all of them except the Nintendo ones either in physical or digital version.

Also..Deadpool the Game is missing on that list.

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EA’s best multiplayer games have now shut down for good

Battlefield Bad Company 2, Dead Space 2, Crysis 3, and a handful other EA games have finally had their online services shut down.

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OtterX902d ago

I had no idea that Bad Company 2 was still running, and only now that I know, I want to jump on! 😥

SonyStyled901d ago

I was able to find games in the Vietnam dlc on ps3 the last week. There were articles on here about the server closure when it was announced in April

DaReapa901d ago

BF1943 is the only online MP game that I was genuinely interested in. Been playing since launch 14 years ago. Hate that I couldn't put in as much time to play as I'd hoped for during the final week.

Inverno901d ago

I got really into 43 when I bought Bf3, and preferred it. Everything that I disliked or found annoying about Bf3, wasn't an issue in 43. Too bad they never bothered releasing it on PS4 or PC.

1nsomniac901d ago (Edited 901d ago )

Dead Space 2...... I wasn't even aware that had multiplayer. Nevermind that it was apparently one of their best multiplayers!

anast901d ago

Once people stop buying micros, these companies close the doors.

Xenial901d ago

Dead Space 2 multiplayer had been hanging on for years - I'd boot my PS3 up to see some familiar names in lobbies. This will definitely be missed!

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Battlefield Legacy - Sunsetting Announcement

EA: "As we close in on 15 years since the release of Battlefield 1943, and Bad Company™ 1 & 2, we are announcing that their journey is coming to an end."

darthv721166d ago

This reminds me... I have ME on my PS3 hdd. Never really played it, but it was free.

XiNatsuDragnel1166d ago

Digital future ppl is good they say nope imo

Eidolon1165d ago

And it still says nothing about being able to downloaded even when it's off the storefront, that's a huge ouchie for some who somehow still have it in their backlog...

Shane Kim1165d ago

Dont make it an issue when it's not. If you haven't played it in 15 years, chances are you'll never play it.

isarai1166d ago

That all digital future sure looks great!

/s

zidane13411165d ago (Edited 1165d ago )

Online game servers shut off eventually all the time. Doesn’t matter if you have the disc or not. Even if you have the disc, it’ll be just paperweight unless the game lets you connect directly to a friend or LAN play.

isarai1165d ago (Edited 1165d ago )

Read the article bro. They are delisting the games, including mirrors edge which is an offline game. Online servers i can understand, not being able to buy/download the games anymore? Completely separate issue, especially seeing as how some these games had lengthy sp campaigns and not just mp.

zidane13411165d ago

@israrai, you can still buy the disc for less then 10$. Hardly a loss.

TheEnigma3131165d ago

You shouldn't have to buy the disc, that's the issue.

OhReginald1165d ago (Edited 1165d ago )

Some brilliant minds created servers to keep these old online games alive. A lot of ps2 and ps3 games that had there servers shut down a long time ago have been restored by fans to keep it going. Warhawk, killzone 2, socom 2/ confrontation, resident evil outbreak series, etc.

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DankSinatra1165d ago

The disc still exist. I don’t understand the issue. You guys are upset about that “all digital future” yet these games are not “digital only”. Hell digital only is a minority in the gaming world and so far we haven’t moved into it, the only digital only games are games as a service or online only games, which end up failing in the end.

This is no different than a store that stops selling old games, just go and buy a copy somewhere else. So which is it, you hate all digital or you like it? Make up your mind.

isarai1165d ago

Talk about missing the point entirely. I'm not going to sit here and explain it to you, figure it out.

DankSinatra1165d ago

Talk about whining about something and not wanting to explain from an off handed sarcastic original comment.

I got the point just fine. You’re literally complaining about something that has an easy alternative to it.

ManMarmalade1164d ago

I don't think you got the point

DankSinatra1164d ago (Edited 1164d ago )

@ManMarmalade

No I got it, it has to do with the push towards a future of all digital and reprocussions of losing games. Something I already stayed that hasn’t happened nor is it large enough right now to cause any issues as the games that are all digital are online only to begin with or make up the minority of games

So I’ll say it again, the disc still exists for these games that are over a decade old and can still be played easily. You guys are contradicting the whole “we don’t want a digital only future” crying when the dude I originally responded to stated:

“Read the article bro. They are delisting the games, including mirrors edge which is an offline game. Online servers i can understand, not being able to buy/download the games anymore? Completely separate issue, especially seeing as how some these games had lengthy sp campaigns and not just mp.“

So again, which is it? Do you hate all digital or do you want it?

Inverno1165d ago

On PC I don't think it's much of a problem but I'm sad to see BF43 being shut down. I haven't played it in a while since it's stuck on PS3, but i preferred it way more over BF3. It was the lack of invisible barriers which made it better for me.

badz1491165d ago

BFBC2 was still the best overall package offered by the franchise so far IMO

porkChop1165d ago

Absolutely. BC2 was such a great game. It's a shame we never got BC3.

P_Bomb1164d ago

I had a great run on Bad Company 2. Pound for pound, as solid a BF package as there’s been.

InUrFoxHole1165d ago

Does anyone play the last BF anymore? I searched crossplay servers and it was 20 people the most on all the servers? Can never find a game

SonyStyled1165d ago

The last BC you mean? I was still able to find 10v10 on ps3 2 years ago on NA servers during the evenings. I have all the free and paid dlc installed, but there want any matches in the Vietnam dlc.

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