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Why 3D TV Will Flop

Fueled by hit films like Avatar and Up, interest in 3D has hit a fever pitch -- some would argue its zenith -- and both cable networks and electronics manufacturers are taking notice. Their conceit: If it works in the theaters, why not in the living room? And that inherently flawed notion is leading companies to sink billions into a trend that won't last long.

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4Sh0w5965d ago (Edited 5965d ago )

There's definitely some obstacles, but you won't know for sure until you put it out there and see if it works/the public really wants it but in todays economy any new high dollar venture that fails could be a huge setback for any company, I think the difference between 3D and motion control is that wii has proven there is a market for motion control while 3D is more of a risk outside of the theaters, if it works and people adopt it quickly then it could be huge for the companies involved, but if people are not willing to fork out the extra expense for the added 3D tech in their living rooms, then it could be a costly venture. Who knows, we'll see.

Udidntlistenpunk5965d ago

CES is not even over and the very first fanboys who, of course, picked the wrong console (whose name I will not name here but everyone knows which one Im talking about :p) waste no time and start to pounce on why 3D gaming is not needed and why it will be doomed to fail.

Will it fail because its not available on your console? No?

Haha - its not even out yet, so lets wait and see. Because as far as I can tell, we gamers only need an software upgrade from Sony and some glasses and HDMI version 3 (which is like 30 bucks) and then we can enjoy 3D gaming.

Because most HD TVs today are already 3d compatible.

And unless you have a tv model which is 10 years old, chances are that your tv will be 3d compatible aswell.

SaiyanFury5965d ago (Edited 5965d ago )

I don't know. My 1080p HDTV is less than 3 years old and it won't support 3D. I can't really say I feel like I'm missing out. Using glasses that typically darken the image in favour of a gimmick doesn't really draw me. It reminds me of the old 3D with the red and blue plastic glasses. It was interesting, but I kind of thought it was weak. Not to mention there were no colours other than red and blue. I'm aware that modern 3D features full colour, but considering the price of HDTVs these days that support the feature, I doubt that many people will jump on board, considering most 48" or so HDTVs can be had for a thousand bucks or less now. I wonder what price range the average person will go for; a 2000 dollar 3DTV for some-odd dollar gimmick, or go for half the price for a good size 1080p TV. I guess it's ultimately up to the person, but I will not be one who goes for the 3DTV thing. Considering I spent 2500 dollars on my 61" 1080p HDTV 2 some-odd years ago.

Wrathman5965d ago (Edited 5965d ago )

most tv's are compatible?really?

i hope your right.if it means i only need a new hdmi cable thats great.but i have serious doubts if your statement is true.personally my tv is 3yrs old.i bought it when hdtv arrived.it doesnt even do full 1080i.and that was expensive at the time.£800.thats $1600 at the time.and only 32".

i do find 3dtv very fadish today.and im not buying another tv till this one breaks.my doubts on 3dtv are not fuelled by fanboyism.but if everyone decides to adopt to 3dtv,it will be a slow adoption.you need to remember that outside the usa high def tv hasnt been fully adopted.in the uk we have a tiny amount of high def channels.subscribed to by a smaller amount of people.

question..does 3dtv require a hd signal.can it be recieved thru a terrestrial signal?movies are 1 thing,but mass adaption needs a mass following.it needs tv channels to do this. skytv has some 30 hdtv subscription channels and you can get 3 for freeview.hdtv is still a luxury.why jump to 3dtv so quick?

haqshot5965d ago (Edited 5965d ago )

Personally, I have zero interest in 3D television or 3D gaming and will not be purchasing any of those products. I would rather not turn blind by age 30.

By the way, just about anyone who has one eye that functions worse than the other will not be able to enjoy 3D. This would make up a sizable population, and that is not even taking into account older folks who generally have very poor eyesight.

ShinRyuHadoken5965d ago

There are always hypocrites on this planet that will think 3D will flop. Just wait and see. 2years from now they have enough money and they will screaming different. Those hypocrites are always 1-2 years behind the TECH-INOVATIONS. Just like when PS3 was out 3 years ago they talk b1tching PS3 because it was €600 and now only €299 they loving it.

anh_duong5964d ago (Edited 5964d ago )

i am sure this was the same guy who said colour tv will never catch on

the author doesn't realise that 3d will probably be the same price as standard tv in a couple of years time since the technology is already there and is pretty straight forward..

the difference in hidef tv and normal tv pricing was astronomical because lcd panels and plasma panels cost a lot more to manufacture during the early periods of flat screen tvs (the plasma used to cost 5000 bucks).. and even that didn't stop hd tv from being a failure.. nowadays, the leap in manufacturing cost between 3d panels and none 3d panels is actually not a great deal - hundreds not thousands of bucks.

the marginal price difference in 3d tv and normal hd-def tv will be pretty negligible in a few years time so anyone with half a brain will buy a 3d tv because it woun't cost a lot more...

this is blu-ray all over again but the only difference is now there is just one 3d blu-ray standard instead of two competiting hd (hd dvd / blu-ray) standards.. the risk of format obsecelence (i.e. hd dvd) is greatly reduced. the consumer will not be frightened about buying the wrong product..

furthermore with firmware upgrades there will be at least 35 million 3d tv capable players out there - and that is just counting ps3 players..

and as for contents there will be undoubtedly hundreds of 3d movies available (supported by all hollywood studios not like the fragmentation we saw during the early hidef war).. cable and satellite channels will have 3d content.. some ps3 games will be patched into 3d and new games will support 3d as well as an enormous library of pc games tht already support 3d.

http://www.nvidia.com/objec...

people who say 3d will flop have very short memories.. colour tv, stereo tv, hidef tv.. universally standardised (has no competition) backwardly compatible new technology will always succeed so long as the price is right.

Anon19745964d ago

From now on, if a buyer goes into a store to drop $2000 on a new TV, and beside it is a set for $2200 that supports 3D, do they really think people won't spend a tiny bit extra for simply having the option of 3D?

And it was mentioned above that the glasses darken the image. I've seen plenty of 3D movies in the theaters and I have to honestly say I've never been conscious of a darkening watching 3D movies. I fully intend on upgrading my 1080p home theater projector when there's more 3D content available. I jumped into HDTV a little too early and learned my lesson there. I had an HDTV 2-3 years before there was any HDTV content to play on them.

shotgunkiwi5964d ago

When you have two alternating images, each one is brighter to compensate for the polarized glasses :)

Well, that will be true on the "true" 3d TVs. You may see some darkening on older models.

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KILLERAPP5965d ago

it depend how well is implemented and how much it cost, but once more Sony will used the PS3 in order to get people to buy 3D, i fully expect them to really push 3D in E3, if the TV's are affordable and Cable and satellite push it then maybe it might become the new standard but not in a few years. 3D maybe here but in order to become a standard it need heavy support and to affordable. I do believe that by next year almost all movie will be in 3D in order to show people how cool it is.

OspreyDawn5965d ago

What's the problem with placing the material they use for the lenses of the glasses over the screen of the TV? Wouldn't that work just as well as wearing the glasses themselves or am I missing something? Also aren't there also some 3D TVs anyway that don't require glasses demoing at CES at the moment?

Parapraxis5964d ago (Edited 5964d ago )

This 3d tech uses different glasses, not quite the same ones used in most theatres in North America. But they still may make the picture darker unless you have a very high refresh rate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

AEtherbane5964d ago

You cant put a layer of over a tv and make it look 3d, the new and cool 3d stereoscopic glasses are polarized, and refresh the lens and change its polarity dynamically to make something look 3d dynamically based on your position. if you saw avatar in 3d. the 3d was different based on where you sat in the theater, because of the glasses. Its really cool stuff, the color though is dimmed because the glasses are polarized.

Now, the 3d TV's that don't require glasses to work are a whole different ball game, there an entirely new technology. but its actually isn't that old to be suprised. In australia, they've been testing these goggless 3d computers since 2005 in gaming bars. however, the size of the screen was quite limited and things could only be played in SD and you would have to be very close to the screen. These new goggless 3d tv's are different, although, they are only 3d from certian angle. What they are working on is expanding the range of view from where the TV looks 3d. so eventually we can have our HD 3d goggless tv's, and see 3d from any angle...

its awesome technology, happy to be witnessing its creation in my lifetime, since 3d projections and 3d media has always been in sci-fi productions, just never possible.

socomnick5965d ago

Once 3d tvs without glasses come out then it will succeed until then these tvs will be huge flops.

lh_swe5964d ago

Because I certainly want a 3D TV and I am sure everyone else does too, there is a reason Avatar did so well (the movie not the game).

Chris3995964d ago

You don't need glasses, you just sit in front of them with your pals. They're being displayed all over CES this year.

Educate yourself before you speak.

digimau5965d ago

LOLLL: Yahoo is not imparzial: Yahoo is Partner of Microsoft...XD

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Top Racers Need Top Gear – Introducing the Forza Horizon 6 Limited Edition Controller and Headset

Omar writes: "With the Horizon Festival coming to breathtaking Japan, you’ll need the essential gear to prove you’ve got what it takes to become a Horizon Legend as you cruise, drift and explore an open world full of spectacular driving experiences. That’s why we’re happy to announce the newest Limited Edition Xbox Wireless Controller and Wireless Headset collection, featuring inspired designs from Forza Horizon 6. The bright cyan and lime colorways celebrate the Horizon Festival’s recognition of iconic cars and hit music, with special features that are sure to impress any collector."

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Killer2020UK18d ago

Oh my, that is one gaudy design

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"It's Just So Lame" - RTGI Modder Thinks DLSS 5 Is Impressive But Shares AI Slop Sentiment

Pascal Gilcher calls DLSS 5 impressive but shares the "AI slop" sentiment, explaining the likely tech behind it and why he dislikes it.

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CrimsonWing6944d ago

I fail to see how this is AI shhhhlllloooop. Looking at the different games they showed, this has made many of them look far better.

isarai_lee44d ago (Edited 44d ago )

It's AI slop because it ignores the artists intent and changes the details ESPECIALLY when it comes to character faces. The scariest part of it is introducing it as the next stage of DLSS, a feature where the current iteration already has controversy surrounding it and for quite a lot of games cannot be fully disabled. So reasonably the precident is already set for what path this could take, and it's not good

blacktiger44d ago

In case you didn't watch the video then let me point just one part. It overrides the lighting. Then the question of what is the point of ray tracing cost and so on. Many of the lighting deletes shadow, including shadow on the face like eyes even chin.

Chard44d ago

Why stop at art when it comes to human input - why not just have AI play the game for us, remove human input altogether

theshizer44d ago

If you don’t like it, just don’t enable it. Personally I think it looks great from the videos I have seen.

isarai_lee44d ago

And what about when you can't? Cause there's plenty of games where you cannot fully disable dlss already, i mean we're well into an era where it's a major crutch for developers to cover up their cut corners, why would this be any different?

blacktiger44d ago

You are playing with people's money and allow Nvidia to scam you.

In case you didn't watch the video then let me point just one part. It overrides the lighting. Then the question of what is the point of ray tracing cost. This is all lie to raise the cost of the graphic card.

Andrew33644d ago

Making characters look more realistic not ok because we want the developer to decide on how the game was intended to look. - Internet

Change entire game through mods thus changing how the developers intended the game to be is ok. - Internet

isarai_lee44d ago

Something consumers can do to a product after they have purchased it, entirely optional and can always be undone with a fresh install

VS

The leading gaming hardware manufacturer making this the next iteration of the main AA/Upscaling technique that is heavily relied upod by modern devs and is not optional in most games.

Not at all the same but nice try

jwillj2k444d ago

At the moment you need 2 5090’s just to get an image on the screen so this is all vaporware until proven otherwise.

Andrew33644d ago

The good news is you can just not use it as well.

Christopher44d ago

It's all about choice in the end. But, I would say that calling it 'more realistic' is quite a stretch. It looks like AI art, and that's rarely realistic.

Urrakia3444d ago

All the comments I see are reminding me of how we got to the current state of gaming when microtransactions were first introduced: "It's completely optional guys, we promise! If you don't like it just don't buy it!"

I think we all know how that ended up.

Popsicle44d ago (Edited 44d ago )

I had the same exact thought the first time this was brought up in a separate article about a week ago. Took me straight back to the conversations surrounding “horse armor.” Just don’t buy it they said. Years later, many IPs I previously enjoyed are so infected with monetization schemes that I don’t even consider purchasing them anymore.

DLSS 5 and the like are the same thing wrapped in a different package. History rhymes but many of us never learn from it.

blacktiger44d ago

Biggest Scam. Overrides lighting and shadow. So why keep Ray tracing? It's all a scam to raise graphic card. We now see Nvidia with Microsoft downturn anything against them. Sony is next!