Killzone 3 CONFIRMED!! This is going to be such a great game, can't wait. I'm guessing February/March 2011.

I wish all those guys would make Battlefront 3..

actually, truth be told, if all of these great studios worked together to work on one single game, it would be one huge waste of talent. Let's face it, their styles don't all work together, Team ICO and GG? Really? The studio responsible for creating unique gaming experiences through unique story-telling and silent charcaters and the studio responsible for KZ, a great shooter that pretty much is a blend of every single FPS-formulas of the past decade, which also to be co-starred by Rico? How is that gonna work out?

Just because they are talented doesn't mean that having them work on a project together will make it any better, chances are it would simply create a huge mess.

STk

we are talking about Sony companies here not MS, who have a bunch of one trick ponies.

I finally bought Killzone 2. It was one of the main reasons I got a Ps3. I'll admit that it said that PSN was going through maintenance. I tried to play in multiplayer and there were only 3 matches available. I switched it over to worldwide search and there were about 10 matches available with a total of less than 100 people! I tried a few hours later and still about the same result.

So my question is... Have most people abandoned KZ2 and moved on to something else? I can go on Socom at any time and there are still lots of people still playing, but what is going on with KZ2?

I agree that out of a design perspective things could get a little messy but you cant just assume that everyone will try to do their own thing. Just imagine the graphics that could be accomplished with all those talented programmers.

@AAACE5 can't believe that. What time was that ? Wed. 9:30 where everybody's working ? I never had a list smaller then a couple of pages, first page usually full.

Also, KZ2 has a lot drop in/out in games. Means the fill up fast, or get cleared out fast (simply because you can have 10 maps, 3 hours each if all game modes are active, means a session can be quite long). Don't get fooled by 10 of 32 games.

Maybe you got a bad day or what. OTOH MW2 and UC2 seams to suck players out of KZ2.

I just see the samething happening that happened when Squaresoft & Enix merged. The 2 greatest JRPG makers combined will make the most epic of JRPG's. unfortunately that never happened and every game has gotten worse then the previous, hopefully FF XIII & FF Vs XIII will start a new trend in the opposite direction for SE.

Just because a great dev team joins with another great dev team doesn't always equal the greatest game ever made and like I said all you have to do is look @ the games for Squaresoft & Enix before they merged and the games after.

Man... if all those godly developers were to work on one title, I would be crying with tears of joy and excitement!

@1.8 - There's ALWAYS loads of matches when I play KZ2, Resistance 2 on the other hand is almost dead.

@Gaffy

I havent tried yet R2 multi in competitive but coop mode is alive and kicking some serious azz. I got my R2 copy very recently, hoping to find at least few people to play coop, but my surprise was big when I found a huge coop comunity.

I'm not going to buy another console for a long time. I mean, unless PS4 and Xbox 720 are just flat out amazing, I don't see why these two can't go for another four years. Great to be a gamer.

Turn of same rank as me in game filter. now it's only searching for same or lower ranks then you and since the game has been out very long not alot of beginners anymore. try it and you will see alot of games

Battlefront 3 should be done by the devs of Warhawk.

This will be one AMAZING game! Now that they have the engine ready and have already released KZ2 (a game that I absolutely love), they'll do even better with all that experience from user-feedback. Killzone 3 will defenitely be a day one purchase and with hundreds and thousands of new PS3 owners, I am sure GG will get an even bigger reward for all their hard work.

Killzone was sooooooo good that it actually made me pretty much hate Modern Warfare 2. I am playing Battlefield beta and while it looks good, it's no where near as good as Killzone 2. GG has set the standard so high, it's getting extremely difficult to like these new games and please let me be clear here. I am not talking about only graphics here. I LOVED the multiplayer. It was intense!!!!!!!

if that isn't one of the most delusional yet comical loads of BS drivel.

We all know you hate anything on the PS3. We all know you can't stand the thought of a game where the protagonist isn't wearing a green helmet and plastered on Mountain Dew, but are you really thinking people are going to take your comment seriously? Of course you are, I've seen your post history, you're insane.

Not a single thing you said was factual or accurate, it was a slanted opinion based around what you likely consider a religion. The game sold well for what it was, as it's virtually a new IP, your opinion is basically what everything else boils down to, and the mere fact that your predictable and unoriginal self is actually complaining about "unoriginality" is absolutely hysterical. The game has legions upon legions of fans, and then there's you sitting at your computer shaking in hatred. You belong in the Open Zone.

People like you give this site a bad name. People like you give this hobby a bad name.

you just suck plain and simple go back to your modern warfare and halo

Killzones enemies might seem a bit bland after the comical genius of armour clad space monkeys in Halo 3.

"noooo tartarus you mean space monkey you, please dont fire teh haloooo !"

"raaa, i shall fire the halo coz its dead godly innit"

"nooo...space monkey nooooooo"

played the game, it would burn his flesh like holy water on a vampire just to touch the controller, so don't think he's actually contributing a viable viewpoint on any facet of any PS3 game.

I actually liked the weighted feel, it's not about "twitch" gameplay as much, to me it equated to realism, and in that, it went very well with the graphics and sound. The game is phenomenal.

Seriously HaloMLG, you had to have come in here just to get flamed with outrageous rhetoric like that, you're in a PS3 article, in the Gamer Zone, posting about what are essentially fictitious observations.

oh wow
a guy with ((halo)) in his name bashing Killzone

wow thats new

It's pretty obvious that the majority of people that bought Killzone 2 complained about the sluggish control. It might of been a great idea on paper but the end result was horrible. That's why GG had to release a new patch to try to correct this problem. In the end, it just didn't ended up reaching the hype. The lackluster sales prove this.

anything is "lackluster" next to Halo, selling over 2 million copies is in an upper echelon of feats for any game firstly, secondly, the fact that you're trying to swing the "but teh salez" card is self-ownage in and of itself, and typical of "your kind"...

Hey, how about your Halo 3's lackluster sales next to Wii Play...are you really going that way?

The controls? Many complained, many praised them, so you're still wrong. They didn't "fix" a problem, they responded to community feedback and added an option, something you're probably unfamiliar with, seeing as how your trolling is clearly not desired by this community currently, yet you're not responding appropriately.

Do you really think Halo is the epitome of "realism" with it's controls? Really?

I can't believe MLG came out and attacked KZ2 in a PS3 thread but don't think you guys are any better than him for attacking Halo3. Both games are great in there own rights and shouldn't be degraded because you think it's the best thing ever.

check, I never once "attacked" Halo 3 as a game, I've liked the Halo series and think # 2 was the best. I'd specifically made sure not to sink to his level, and I'd remarked on the green helmet, Mountain Dew affiliation, and it's sales next to Wii Play for reference. Then finally I remarked on Halo 3's controls comparative to KZ2's so he can understand why GG made the controls as he calls "sluggish" and that it's not a bad thing... I didn't praise Halo 3, but I never "attacked" it the way he crawled in here to go after KZ2. In reality, I referred to Halo, but did not take a piss on it, the way MLG does to PS3 and anyone who likes it at all.

I consider myself a gamer first and foremost, with preference of my PS3, but I do have a 360 and now 8 games on it, EDF 2017, Crackdown, PDZ, Fable 2, Dead Rising, Chrome Hounds, Gears 1 and Project Sylpheed. Clearly I just love games, HaloMLG does not.

If anything was attacked by myself, it was his attitude and the stigma he gives to this site and this hobby...and for all I know, this country I live in. I'm an American, and my image and heritage gets crapped on internationally when people like him, presumably American, though not guaranteed, spout off their mouths like he does. I have to contend with that, and that is ridiculous.

KZ2 wasn't bland imo. It wasn't the best game out and still isn't but it was fun. I thought the multiplayer could have used more depth. Ahh nothing like being in a room with 40% rocket spam and spawn campers. The controls I do agree were a bit sluggish than your typical shooter this was evident by a patch release. For those of you that disagree, a patch is not released to fix something thats fixed. It could have done better in sales but the PS3 price drop was yet to be. It goes to show that graphics aren't everything, some times people are looking for a decent looking game with a great story. KZ2's story was far from memorable.
@BWS 1982
"If anything was attacked by myself, it was his attitude and the stigma he gives to this site and this hobby...and for all I know, this country I live in. I'm an American, and my image and heritage gets crapped on internationally when people like him, presumably American, though not guaranteed, spout off their mouths like he does. I have to contend with that, and that is ridiculous." Oh god get off of your community college high horse you just come off as a D-bag imo.

KZ2 already made a mark in the FPS world that all the hatred coming from pathetic Halo fanboys wont change. Introducing new weighty controls, an innovative FPS cover system and an unique dark atmosphere. KZ2 got many gamers wanting to escape from the generic run and gun fps.

As a prime example of KZ2 mark there is Brink. Splash Damage hired
the lead designer from GG to work in Brink, and
it shows. Brink screams KZ2 "dullness" all over the place but with some more colors and some goofy looking characters to differentiate from the inspiration.

@above

Some COD fans complaining about "the lag" made GG to issue a "fix". I finish my first play through KZ2 w/o that patch. The changes introduced by the patch didnt change the overall scheme just tried to tweak it.

The enemies all look the same because they're a large military force, hence they will all be equipped with more or less the same weaponry and gear.

Yes, group together around ten people who complained about the controls and attack it like there's no tomorrow! You're trying way too hard my friend, way too hard.

Why are you here? Really, just stop it already.

YOU NEVER PLAYED KILLZONE 2.

Huh? Uh, okay, that comment at me was irrelevant and nonsensical, but since it's "IMO," I'll take it under advisement...?? Or not?

Falsely assuming someone's education and then saying *they* are on a high horse? This discussion is about Killzone 3.

sorry man but if any game was designed by 8 year olds its halo 3 i mean , big brightly coloured aliens wow , master chief is just a power ranger in a metal bikini and just look at the weapons they look like they came from the summer fun section at walmart, im not flaming halo 3 but if any game was desinged by 8 year olds i8ts halo 3 sorry.
Killzone 2 goes for a gritty,dark, realistic, war look you can tell by the art design it takes inspiration from powerfull war figures in the our history e.g. nazi germany soviet russia etc. real world regimes

@ BWS 1982 that's my point buddy! You're talking to the guy but you have to understand this is a gaming site not intellect 101. Trying to fancy him with big words will end up putting you on the same level. To assume that you're a D-bag was my fault. I'm still sticking with the community college..LOL!

@Raztad... What's your point my friend? Maybe I'm just missing it? The controls needed to be fixed to make a large number of gamers happy. I'm not saying the game was unplayable but it obviously needed to be fixed or GG wouldn't have bothered.

@deshon99 Who are you talking too? HaloMLG?

you have absolute nothing else to do but bash the ps3 and it games lol you must ha ms balls down your throat by now go and play halo because no one give a sh*t what you think kz2 is a great game and yes it has flaws just like any other game at lest gg is trying to correct it

The controls should have remained as they were in the beta-I don't recall any complaints about them being "sluggish" back then and playing through the SP the opther day with them was still a far more tense and real feeling experience than I've had with any console FPS ever. The weioght and heft of the guns IS different to Halo and COD with their dield levelling pick up and play assisted aim and it was only when the COD massive got their hands on the game that the controls were even questioned. Why would anyone want all their shooters to feel and play the same anyway? I realise a lot of people love the floaty. flicky aiming as they buy another copy with a different set of skins every year(and STILL with no proper servers which is a DISGRACE and not just for the PC but also PS360 when other, smaller selling games can manage to get them right. the market leadinf shooter in 2009, that leans almost entirely on it's MP couldn't have dedicated servers when Warhawk could in 2007?)without fail but then why demand KZ2 play the same? Can you imagine if GG had done this from the off? "COD in space confirmed!!" the reviews and haters would have loved shouting it! The same thing happened with RE5 when the controls were about the only thing they kept right about the whole shebang yet we had wailing over it not being the same as other shooters control wise as well. If all games controlled the same wouldn't we be playing a lot of samey, easy to pick up but with no learning curve games?

No. It was an unreasinable thing to demand, imo, and robbed KZ2 of a lot of it's personality. The moaning doesn't stop there either as I've seen people say "why can't I own at Warhawk/KZ2/whatever shooter when I kill at COD?" said about a ton of shooters-and even some WITH very similar control schemes to COD as well. I just wish FF had stayed stronger and realised that 99% of the moans were frompeople opnly ever using KZ2 as a makeweight while MW2 was in the works. They were ALWAYS leaving come the next COD whatever FF did and it should have remained prouvly the same as it was designed as it's a better game for it's indicifuality in my eyes and the way we gamers largely seem t crave the same experience in different wrappers is getting depressing to me-MW2 is more like, and loads of games do it now, MW1.5(if that as MW1 was a better SP imo and the perks system was still fresh then too)and despite a ton of bed press and bad behaviour and pice hikes uit still sold better than even Acti imagined. We're losing our desire for great, brave new experiences in gaming(witness ,also, the high number of requests for old , classic, games to be remade! We want the same games just updated rather than actual NEW ones?)and it worries me for the future of games if devs and publishers totally bow to this as an easy and quick money maker every time. We'll run out of chances for the new classics, won't we? If all we want is the same old games with the same controls do we deserve any better?

Honestly, the harrassment of GG over this makes my blood doil to this fay and is the thin end of a scary wedge as far as FPS gaming on consoles goes-one where generica is king and any individual traits are frowned upon for stopping people from staying safely within their safety /comfort zones. We need more games like KZ2 that demand something more of us, more games like Warhawk with long, sometimes steep learning curves. Otheriwse all we get is the same thing ad nauseum-auto aim assist and all.

CAN'T wait for news of the next Killzone and imagine a much moe intense experience than even KZ2 managed. I like Halo(used to love it but, honestly, feel that Halo3 wasn't a great change drom Halo2 and ODST was merely a decent rent if, like me, you already ownd the maps or didn't play online a lot)and while I'm now bored of COD still think that MW1 is a quality game with some of the best SP levels of any shooter (regardless of age or platform AND that it did great things for MP too-at the time)I still know that there's a place for them-however, I don't see why there's no room to do things differently either.

KZ2 is STILL one of the games of the year for me, still looks stunning(well beyond anything on offer visually from other big hitting console shooters)AND when using the real ones still the best, skill testing controls as well. I just wish more people had some damn patience and were prepred to actually lern how to play these different games rather than demand they get shanged to resemble something they alredy feel they're good at. It's lazy as much as anything and tempts devs tbe equally so-so please be careful what you wish for as we all have to suffer the homogenised disaster when that happens.

@BX81

Point is controls didnt need any change, but GG tried to please some guys that most probably are playing MW2 and not KZ2 by now.

again, you're missing the point, and trying to create new ones which make no sense. You're sounding more like HaloMLG than anything now. Nowhere did I use "big words" and I happen to believe that if you'd done any research on "me" you'd find I do not have a community college education, nor is my education relevant, despite your futile attempts to make it so. If I wanted to use big words, I'd start a discussion about existentialism or Nietzsche, but this is ABOUT KILLZONE, and YOU brought up "intellect".

I called out HaloMLG and his trolling and you rushed to his defense by attacking something which you know nothing about, so you've not only failed at this discussion --which is again, about Killzone 2 and 3-- but any attempt to totally debunk and derail it by using baseless insults.

Again, I really like the KZ 2 controls and I think the ultimate option, and I repeat, option, would be to implement a choice to have "weighty" controls, or the arcadey/twitchy ones from Halo and COD...Then nobody can complain about it, as everybody has the tinkering in their hands. It's like the mouse sensitivity on an FPS game for PC, if you don't like it, switch. It removes the whiners.

Says the guy with Halo 3 in his name...

With a post like that, I just can't think of a comeback - "Dumbassery" speaks for itself...

MGR is right ! The rest of you are idiots. It's genetic...duh...gene...tic. Oh f*ck I'm out of here!

I am playing killzone 2 instead of the best game that was released on xbox 360 this year which is mw2? I am a fps fanatic and you dont know what the hell you are talking about if you diss killzone 2. I'd bet money neither of you guys have even seen it at a friends house.

PS2 had great RPGs as well

Well that's the beauty of still owning a retro console tho. Those who usually complain about emulation are just being blindly loyal to a company. Emulation is great for many reason, but if I still owned the console then I disagree nothing beats plugging it back in and going down a nostalgia trip