nah man its 2009 lol

2 disks is a positive for 360 gamers, the alternative is dulled down textures, now it will live up to it's full potential.

@Blowstuffup

They couldn't just have a mandatory install to make up for it because there are people with 360's with no HDD.

YES!!!!!!!

i'm so happy, now i know the world in mass effect2 is going to be fvcking huge.

the ps3 fanboys may laugh, but all this means is that bioware is not holding back. More content!

I would rather switch the disk ONE time throughout the game than play something that is held back from dvd storage. Thank you Bioware.

Mass Effect is effectively an open game. You can go where you want when you want. I'm worried about if this will be different in Mass Effect 2. However, this is BioWare so I have to give them the benefit of the doubt.

As long as it doesn't disrupt the flow of gameplay and disc changing is infrequent, I'm totally cool with that on my 360.

I'm curious why they couldn't allow for the install though... I like installing all my games to the HD.

too much awesomeness for 1 disc

....like with MGS as well as installs between levels....ill take a 20 second swap.

this is definitely good news.

i was always wondering how they were able to bump the character details and add bigger environments.
http://www.gamersyde.com/po...

now i know how they did it, i was hoping they wouldn't end up making the campaign small, now those thoughts are over.

mass effect2 is going to be a real beast now of 2010.

bioware rocks!!

At one point in the game, once you passed it.. You can go back. a.k.a. you can't revisit old worlds, or explore side quests in the beginning.

I agree that when it comes to the 360 2 Disc is a good thing. That means better graphics and audio since they don't have to compress everything to one disc.

No problem - who cares. Make it 100 discs, game will still be awesome. Can't wait

Is switching disks such a big deal? I don't thinks so. But I doubt you would find somebody that would rather switch disks than have it all on one.

swapping discs become a big deal when you want to go back to certain point of the game and you just can't because you're stuck on the second, third or maybe fourth disc?

I still remember playing FF on the PSX and when you leave behind important items, summons or whatever that where, lets say, on the second disc and you were on the third you know that you're fuked because you can't go back to get them now. Man, that was so annoying... You couldn't explore all the world when you where on the final disc because the stages were distributed among the different disc.

FFXIII will be a failure on the X360 just because of this fact. Unless they give you the ability to swap discs backward, swaping discs it's a big deal.

lol, look at that......only the ps3 gamers are complain about swapping discs.

no sh!t i wonder why?

"lol, look at that......only the ps3 gamers are complain about swapping discs.

no sh!t i wonder why? "

Because we have Blu-ray, ROFL.

and I'll never go back to dvd...
I have to say that I don't miss it on consoles. It's still young, and pushing it into consoles this early was a BOLD move. The drives are still slow...and expensive. They add very little to the gaming experience, despite what the fanboys will tell you. The games will look just the same on DVD. Really guys...they will. Storage doesn't give you console a magical GPU boost...
DVD for consoles is fine at this point. PC still happily uses it, and the PC dominates in the graphics department.
Next gen I could see taking more advantage of it, but for now DVD is still hanging in there.

The sad thing is that you and all of the others in the Xbox camp are willfully missing/ignoring why the PS3 camp is laughing at you.

And honestly, how much backtracking to explored worlds was there in ME1?

nice, they must stuffed a lot of content into the game since its 2 discs now, cant wait for this game it will be epic.

the disc swapping comments is getting old.

Microsoft is not making 360s with blu-ray or HD-dvd drives. people who have 360s have already settled with what the console brings forth.

these disc swapping comments is nothing more than to promote ps3 and blu-ray, and the thing is pc is doing fine with DVDs, Wii is, and so is 360.

and getting a ps3 isn't where mass effect2 is at, so this is actually a very misleading promotion.

Blu-rays are so outdated. Discs are nothing more than just crude storage nowadays (usb drives do a better job)

If your a pc gamer you know what I'm talking about. If you wanna be a pc gamer here's a good place to start.

$89 1.5TB hard drive (free shipping)
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True, not having to switch a disc vs switching a disc once its better not to have to switch the disc. The thing is its the type of thing thats really not a concern for 99% of gamers. Its like the stupid fanboy side by side multi comparisons where one version has a few more pixels when you maginify them, usually 360 version and 360 fanboys go crazy as if the ps3 version looks like crap. What people on this site dont seem to understand is unless the difference is totally lopsided in favor of one version or the other nobody outside of n4g cares. Same with multiple discs, in the unlikely event that you overhear a guy in a gaming store upset about ME2, while promoting bluray, you might as well just ask what his n4g name is, so you know who you're talking to. Oh and in the event you overhear someone at a game store insisting all multi's are better on 360 just ask him if its still working. lol just kiddin.

i really wouldnt be suprise if hidden DLC is on them discs. Bioware will probably release DLC the same day of the release.

you mean free DLC on day one like they did with dragon age?, yeah that would just be rude! /sarcasm

Isn't Mass Effect Open world (Or open galaxy, as may be more appropriate, lol)?

I'm really thankful that this game won't be held back. It's gonna be great!

And to all the PS3 fanboys saying "get with the times"...?

I can't even leave an f'ing voice message to anyone on my PStriples... Can someone remind me what year it is again? I've seemed to miss the many times it's been brought up already......

Sony loyaltists always have to find something to complain about even when it has nothing to do with them. You make PMS'ing women look like Barney..

EDIT: And yeah ME is open world. But what happens when a certain world is destroyed or you're banned from returning there or the hundreds of other scenarios that can happen that could stop you from returning to a point in the game that you once had access to. (that's even happened in other open world games)

Do people think before they type?? Man...

"And yeah ME is open world. But what happens when a certain world is destroyed or you're banned from returning there or the hundreds of other scenarios that can happen that could stop you from returning to a point in the game that you once had access to"

I see. Thanks for the info.

If you're a gamer, you shouldn't even need that info.. :\

im still going to buy it but really.... why did microsoft stay with dvd....

I called it.

"what happened to your "zomg I have sooooo many exscl00sives right now!!!" Tired of em already? I paid $10 for Uncharted and felt kinda bad after beating the game knowing I'll never play it again. I must have made 3 different characters on Mass Effect (pc of course). I imagine Mass Effect 2 will be even better."

And I played Mass Effect one and Uncharted 5 times. What idiotic point are you trying to make?

"lol, look at that......only the ps3 gamers are complain about swapping discs.

no sh!t i wonder why? "

You mean like 360 fanboys are the only ones commenting on mandatory installs?

@evrfigh

Sure man. Thats why you dont have an "uptodate" dvd drive on that PC.

@ raztad

why would I need one when I have a bulky, overpriced, dog of an "uptodate" dvd drive already

http://tinyurl.com/ycrpwje
look closely at the right side (best I could do right now, I don't feel like turning on the lights for you)

Ahh, the limitations of DVD9

Ahh, the limitations of DVD9

Yeah what a bummer. All consoles need quadripple layer superduper blue ray discs to store the massive amounts of data required for todays sophisticated games.

Is it that big a deal?

@everfigh

Thats nice. I'm always for a good Pc and a PS3, (BluRay image quality is incredible), but are you saying you dont have a dvd drive on your PC? interesting. So far how do you manage to install software, games?

no doubt both discs will contain all assetts, with the difference between them being dialogue and missions (mass effect had sh*t-loads of dialogue, cant imagine mass effect 2 being any different

but it reminds me of Metal Gear Solid. I actually had physical evidence I had bigger game. Besides, convenience is the enemy. It is why America is so fat.

Cool. A disc swap is quicker than MGS4's installs lol

Really? Here I thought it was 2009... Boy I have been writting the wrong date on my paperwork for nearly a year now!

More disks means i get more bang for my buck like i have had with Forza 3 and Lost Odyssey.Mass effect 2 is even going to be more of a masterpiece than the first one.

Reminds me of the PS1 days when all RPGS were on 2-4 discs. I always hated that because one disc always got scratched up and wouldn't work, effectively screwing my whole game.

Still more discs = more game, and more game is always good, right?

So is that what it means by having more than one disc? LOL

Sorry, but that spin has me dizzy.

its you trying to turn my statement into a spin by spinning it yourself that has got me all dizzy.

ME 1 was really huge i was surprised that it was fit in one disc

so this means ME 2 will be very huge and swapping once only that won't be a problem at all unless you are lazy

Telling from your comment history it would appear that you were far too dizzy to begin with. No statement by me would spin your head any further than it already has been. Spin it how you want but anybody with their head screwed on straight knows that adding more discs does not = better quality or more bang for your buck. lol

One disk swap, once during the game? That's not an issue.

"but are you saying you dont have a dvd"

Nope I'm saying that's all a ps3 is to me. I don't even own any blu-rays LOL

every blu-ray movie I have, I downloaded (probably more than you'll ever own btw but that's a conversation for a different time)

PC truly just does everything.

how can we as gamers, in 2009 almost 2010 think this is ok? Seriously I know the game will be great and huge but swapping disc is so last gen man.

@MGS
The only people who would praise this is 360 ONLY owners because they have no choice and the only people who would bash it is dual console owners because they don't have a choice.

Well you know there is another disc on the market that has more storage. I know a disc swap is not that big of a deal but I mean really it's 2010.

and they keep going and going and going and going...

Damn it ! its 2009! change the damn excuse already!

a one time disc swap is better then a disc swap every time i want to watch something on netflix streaming... for reals

One guy says "Having to swap a disk when I want to play Netflix is bad." Really? So you have to put in disk when you want to watch a movie? Wow! That's so stone age. You know who also has to do that when watching movies? Damn near everyone! Blu-Ray, DVD - you have to put in the disks to watch those movies. Do you have a piano tied to your ass?

We're talking about one disk swap here, probably once after a couple of weeks of playing the game. Sure, it would be nice if were on one disk but it's not. This is such a non-issue. I can't believe anyone would act smug about this. "Well, you have to swap a disk once after 2 weeks of play. That must mean the system is somehow inferior."

Get over yourselves.

Read through that post again and tell me you don't think you sound stupid. Sorry, but swapping movies discs is not even int he same boat as swapping game discs. You fail at life bud.

Before you tell someone they fail at life, at least give them the courtesy of actually reading their whole post (including the word 'streaming').
/offtopic.

Maybe it's because I'm a PC gamer, or maybe it's because I'm an adult, but honestly, I just don't care and was shocked to find out that there were 200+ comments on a single disk swap! Sure, obviously no disk swap would be better, but do I need to fight about it? There are so many more interesting things about ME to discuss than whether or not you have to swap a disk. I really wish that people would calm down about little things and put that effort into something meaningful.

Or maybe I'm just getting old. It's hard to tell sometimes.

please change your name...i would say you're just making yourself look bad, but in the real "elpresadors" case it's the other way around. MGS4 had its reason for the initial install. And disc swapping on a blu ray disc? lol that's a no no. Anyway, can't wait for ME2. Disc swapping isn't that bad, But i wish i could see what this game would look like for the ps3.

@Lifendz
Hehe, funny about the blu-ray thing. But what would be funnier if the 360 version of FF13 was on one disc...that would show why ff13 didn't stay exclusive lol. And also show the SE are turning into crap. ATLAS FTW!

its gonna be a sweet game for the fans and its an exclusive so it doesn't really matter if it could be run on one disc on another platform, so if anyone wants to experience mass effect they are gonna have to buy a 360 and play it if not then move over to the open zone and let it ripp. Simple really

still 1 disc to me. I'm on PC and steam. installed to hard disk. Teeheee

Nice Job Guido. Nice job.

Confirmed: Mass Effect 2 will be huge. But the summary is wrong, Xbox 360 owners CAN install both discs, we'll just need to have both on hand for it to read it before the game loads.

This game is shooting for GotY 2010 already, no other game come close in scope, I mean Heavy Rain hasn't even left planet Earth yet and the original Mass Effect already went for the stars.

you aint say nothing about laziness when your playing MW2 for hours straight

this is not a big deal at all. yes its nicer not to have to swap discs, but i highly doubt anyone is not going to buy ME2 because of this.

So I don't know why the mod deleted my post. I simply said that DVD will be MS' ultimate downfall. As games continue to expand, DVD will be left in the dust. Soon, most games will be more than one disk on the 360 (Forza 3, ME2, Rage, most RPGs, just to name a few).

Yeah, everything you said to cmbre is true. HD-DVD and blu-ray were nothing more than concepts. But I think it's fair to say that MS should've held off one more year before launching the 360. Sure they gained a year on Sony by coming out first, but at what cost? A RROD fiasco that cost them a billion plus. Now a console that forces devs to develop for the lowest common denominator (the arcade sku) and a disc format that doesn't have anywhere near the space of blu-ray.

@Linfed

I agree with your comment, a rushed console with a lot of reliability issues is not exactly ideal.

However, I can understand why MS needed to be first. Their first xbox was an utter failure and MS wanted to get rid of it, ASAP, and second (and most important) they needed to have an established fanbase before the big guy (Sony) jumps into the "next" gen. It wouldnt be possible for MS compete head to head with Sony. Obviously Sony help MS a lot announcing an eye popping $600 PS3, because, among other things, the cost of the BD. Similarly an HD-DVD out the box on the xbox would mean a much more expensive console.

Xbox with DVD was the most reasonable decision, but it was a short time solution and MS knew. Problem is xbox fans really believed that the old DVD was good enough to cope with the increasing game sizes, using magical compression algos.

cmrbe

MS was correct that bluray was not need this gen, but he meant it only for the xbox, because they know that xbox only fans would accept whatever they fed them. Pay for online to play a portion of a game they already paid for to get p2p network, no problem, pay $100 for extra wireless, no problem, pay out the nose to upgrade hdd, no problem, now swap discs, no problem. If this happened on Ps3 the world would end and every media outlet would be up in arms with Sony complaining that they are holding the industry back. Not to mention Sony fans would be bashing them to hell and back, but we all know this won't happen because Sony would just use a larger Bluray disc. Double the awesomeness without changing the disc.

Well bluray is just a disc format, what it is REALLY needed is the space. Bluray itself isn't much to gloat about, I had a 40GB hard drive back in 2001. Whether it's on 5 DVDs or 1 Bluray it's still a game. The only people who can really complain about it would be Squeenix since they like to pack a lot of CG movies in their games and for 360 they're going to cut down the videos to 720p. But as for how the game looks and plays a disc doesn't hold any weight when compared to the ACTUAL technical specs that matter the most.

Memory, Processor, and Graphics.

@ NoBias

sorry man, I meant to agree with you, but for some reason it logged it as a disagree. I am sure i hit the right button.

anyway, just wanted to say I agree with you.

In the long run, if 360 devs start using multiple disks that can only be positive for the PS3. Eventually that means, they now start using more then 9GB and that should improve the game for all consoles. Good thing is, those games will fit on one disk on the PS3, but texture resolution and detail level will go up on both. I don't care of the 360 gamers need to change their disks. Good for them. I won't :) LOL.

Thats is one of the lamest example i have read in a long time. Is Blu-ray tech exclusive to Sony?. Is xboxlive cross game chat tech open for Sony to use?. I dare you to answer these questions. Think a bit harder before you post next time.

Seriously, is disc swapping so bad that you have to come up with pathetic reasoning?

Oh, and there already IS technology that eliminates disc swapping. It's called Digital Distribution, aka Netflix Streaming, Xbox Live Games on Demand, Xbox Live Arcade, and several other forms of game DLC/VOD.

You would be getting the same amount of game on the 360 version with two discs as you would on the PS3 version with one Blu-Ray.

what kind of question is that?.

Is Alan Wake Confirmed to have 3 discs? If it does, That's awesome. 27 GB is epic win (I know about security taking up disc space).

Disk swapping works in some games, but is impractical on other games, particularly open world type games. Accommodations have to be made to make a game work with disk swapping so you're only doing it once - meaning no going back and forth between the content- which would be a nuisance in an open world game.

lol wat. Do you see a question mark?

Yes, but at a cost. And when I do a quick cost-benefit analysis, the cost of putting Blu in my PC vs the benefits it could provide (not swapping disks) just aren't worth it for me. It's not just about the technology and whether it exists, it's also about the costs associated with it and whether that provides enough benefit to warrant the cost.