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Fanboy Developers (Valve) Need to STFU

PSUni writes "After taking a quick hiatus in order to have his Flip Mino repaired, our very own Professor Blackbuster is back with a vengeance. In his latest episode, BBC discusses exactly why he feels that there is no place in the industry for fanboy developers and uses Valve as an example. Not only does he show why Valve has been incredibly ignorant with its comments as a whole towards the PlayStation brand, but also gives key reasons as to how Valve is missing out in making several significant experiences for gamers on the Sony console. In the end though, sometimes those fanboy developers need to just STFU and developer their games."

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Sonyslave36076d ago

Okay i guess ND,PD Insomia, need to STFU too then.

Pennywise6076d ago

Because?

You little whiny pest... shoo.

Roper3166076d ago

when did any of them ever bash the 360? Unlike Valve & just Turned 10, they are a perfect fit for MS, their mouths are bigger then their brains and they do nothing but talk out their arses while delivering average games.

blitz06236076d ago

lol sonyslave. you xbot need to realize ND and insomniac aren't dev fanboys since Sony owns ND and Insomniac can just develop for other platforms if they want to. Valve just doesn't want to develop for the PS3 because they're too dumb and lazy to learn how to code on a more complex console. they want a simple one, and of course, money. now it's you who need to stfu

WildArmed6076d ago

keep those accounts coming slave..

randomwiz6076d ago (Edited 6076d ago )

yeah, because ND and PD are 3rd parties /sarcasm

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WildArmed6076d ago

This is why we cant have people working at KFC advising NASA on how launch the next satellite into space.

When you dont know about sh!t, use the 5th amendment..

Xeoset6076d ago (Edited 6076d ago )

I am sorry but this is too funny. A fanboy website crying about a 'fanboy' developer? Black kettles and all that.

If half these Sony fans spent less time BAAAWWWing and more time thinking rationally, more people might care.

Proxy6076d ago (Edited 6076d ago )

If any competent person (meaning they've actually achieved something, like publishing a game) expresses and opinion - watch out; there is no forgiveness.

If your going to express an opinion, you should first make sure your an avarage, do nothing, achieve nothing, Joe.

Elvfam5116076d ago

Time there's a article from a Xbox 360 webite we should report right

Spam: (6 minutes ago)
wow fanboy bait much?
Reported by: AliTheBrit19

Lame: (1 hour ago)
Reported by: Sonyslave3

As much I would like to play Left4Dead on my ps3
Can't respect Valve after the way they act

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Mr_Bun6076d ago (Edited 6076d ago )

How was that racist? Are you implying that only a certain race work at KFC and that another at NASA?

Obama6076d ago

"How was that racist? Are you implying that only a certain race work at KFC and that another at NASA? "

I lol'd.

Blaze9296076d ago

"Can't respect Valve after the way they act way "

And how do they act? Are they hurting your feelings or instead disrespecting a piece of plastic? Wow, you guys get so attached...sad

InfectedDK6076d ago (Edited 6076d ago )

Hahaha.. I totally agree on this!
It was a good laugh also - but true in fact.
Valve is looking stupidly in denial with their comments.

sikbeta6076d ago

NO one of the PS3 owners is Downplaying Valve as Developer, just saying this:

You don't like PS3, that's PERFECT, now don't talk about something you don't even care about, no more, no less...

I never read about Bungie talking CRAP about PS3, never hear Kojima talking CRAP about PC, never read or hear Yamauchi talking CRAP about xbox

IS something really simple, just say: "Valve as a whole don't want to make a game for PS3", over.

Elvfam5116076d ago

"And how do they act? Are they hurting your feelings or instead disrespecting a piece of plastic? Wow, you guys get so attached...sad"

I love games as much as the next gamer

Sorry if a Developer is disrespectful they shouldn't be respected
Just like anybody in this world

I can careless about the piece of plastic
I'm guessing you're the sad one here

ico926076d ago

`im actually over valve couldnt care less what they thought of the ps3 , thats just them what are you gonna do ?

Chubear6076d ago (Edited 6076d ago )

Now you may have your option on this site's opinion piece but you got to admit, not only was that piece hilarious but 100% DEAD ON! lol Nice Videocle, very entertaining XD

Best quote of the year "..Ofcourse he's a frikgen jerk, he's related to Flaco!" that one KILLED ME! XD

DMason6076d ago

Yeah, because Sony developers(ie Naughty Dog, Quantic Dream, Insomniac) never display fanboyism or bias towards one system.

/sarcasm

wxer6076d ago

yah gabe needs to STFU

by the way
where is gabe ??

oh there he is
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Reibooi6076d ago (Edited 6076d ago )

Personally I don't see why everyone is crying Sony Fanboy over the video.

Did anyone even watch it?

Every single point he makes is 100% valid and backed up. Nothing is a BS excuse or remark. Sure he gets kinda mad and loud and sure he may be a fanboy but it didn't mess with the point here. He even added a big video montage at the end to prove his point so there is no BSing here.

I agree 100% with what was said. Valve does make great games. I mean Half-Life 2 and it's episodes are some of my favorite games out there but they do have BS and hypocritical excuses when it comes to developing for the PS3. Alot of people would be less mad at them if they just came out and said. We just don't want to develop for the PS3 and that's how it is. Instead of coming up with all these lame excuses. I mean their remarks about the PS3 being a failure and being to hard to dev for is downright insulting to devs like Insomniac and Naughty Dog among others who have made incredible games.

Trebius6076d ago

Obviously because of what you just said, you've proven to us that not only are you uninformed...but that you'll say anything to defend Valve for absolutely no reason whatsoever.

Please post a link for us to any articles or quotes on record that developers for SONY made comments against the Xbox Community and the console.

Please.

Valve goes out of their way to bash the PS3 community and the system for no reason...just out of spite because they're too stubborn and refuse to learn to program on new tech.

You're obviously just saying things to say them and dont even realize that the 3 developers you've named are RESPECTABLE, because they're good at what they do, and they do not belittle the competition.

Do yourself a favor, instead of spreading FUDD on the threads to make Valve look good (for whatever reason) how about you do a little research, enlighten yourself, then come back and make an educated statement...something that actually makes SENSE.

If you cant manage that, then you need to stay in the open zone where everyone else spreads their fallacies.

People like you that give praise to Valve and put down perfectly good developers are what's wrong with the gaming community.

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Leathersoup6076d ago

Wow.. the Sony crowd just can't let go. It's sad.

leila016076d ago

I don't see anyone complaining about Quantic Dreams, SuckPunch or Insomniac not making games or Nintendo or Microsoft.

Montrealien6076d ago (Edited 6076d ago )

I love how we all forget on this site that we all share a common interest, games. Once you realize that its not how you play them, or what console you play on, at the end of the day we are ALL here because we like videogames.

Once you realized there is no reason to hate on eachother, and accept that some people play videogames for different reasons, will see we are all alike in the end.

/on topic

Fanboys should not be calling out devs who won`t make games on a certain console fanboys. If you are a fan of the PS3 and want valve games do like mostly all the ps3 fans on this site, play them where they should be played, on your amazing gaming rig.

Budg3tG4m3r6076d ago

UBI, EA, Rockstar, Naughty Dog and many more devs/pubs do third party exclusives on the platforms they like. It's ether your fanboy feelings got hurt in some way wich is just sad, or your pissed about their games not going to the PS3. Pissed about L4D not going to the PS3 I can understand, but hurt feelings is just the saddest thng I could ever think of. I don't remember fanboys on the other side of the fence crying this hard when it was said Killzone 2 or MAG couldn't be done on the 360. Trash talk from the devs is ok when it's being done against the 360 but it's not ok the other way around??? It doesn't matter what console they support fanboys are just whiny cry baby gamers with weak egos.

DMason6076d ago

I'll bite, even though every word you spew shows evidence of fanboyism, therefor making your statement contradictory. Valve's comments are getting blown out of proportion, like the media putting spin on a specific story. And boy oh boy, you must be a clairvoyant to be able to judge me from my small sentence.

Those companies that I listed may not outright declare the 360 a piece of garbage, but they sure do take potshots at it. Anyone with half a brain can read between the lines.

Proof:

http://gamer.blorge.com/200...

http://www.psu.com/Cage--PS...

http://playstation.joystiq....

Good enough?

Trebius6076d ago (Edited 6076d ago )

You people dont seem to understand...

YES Sucker Punch, Naughty Dog, QD, etc. make games exclusively for PS3, and the 360 crowd doesnt complain about that.

But if one day Naughty dog were to say, "We dont make games for 360 cause their community sucks. They're a bunch of immature children, and we dont cater to that kind of crowd."

Everyone of you hypocrites would be in these threads talking up a storm saying Naughty Dog shouldn't be talking sh1t about a whole community (20+ mil ppl) of gamers.

Now...these third party developers are making games for the PS3, and when asked why they dont make games for the 360, they make what PROFESSIONALS call a statement that's in accordance with good PR.

So instead of saying, like Valve did, The PS3 community of gamers is far less evolved than the 360's, they dont know what they want...blah blah blah...

A professional would say something like, We're comfortable with the way SONY is taking care of us and at the moment we have no plans to develop games for the 360.

The 360 owners keep coming in here saying PS3 gamers are butt-hurt and what not...but that couldn't be farther from the truth...

VALVE is not needed on ps3, they develop primarily for PC, and thats where their games are best played.

PS3 has 20+ independent studios making games around the clock, VALVE's games are hardly a dent in our library of games.

The problem is Valves ATTITUDE and inability to structure statements in a way that they wouldn't sound hostile toward a whole community of gamers.

You guys can keep saying our feelings are hurt all you want...it really doesnt change the fact that VALVE are unprofessional in the way they carry themselves...and those of you that support them ONLY support them because you're playing L4D2 on your xbox and feel somewhat superior (even though your Xbox has had a very dry run in '09 when it comes to exclusive games).

Keep supporting Valve.

We all know M$ has them in their pocket anyway, that's no secret.

I just hope other developers dont decide to take a cue from Valve and start making reckless statements, because I like to support devs that respect themselves as developers, and the consumers as their bread and butter.

A developer like Valve that shuns a whole 25+mil users is only hurting themselves in the long run...because when they DO decide to start making games for the PS3, (which they wont cause "Teh techture is too difficult...duuuuuhrz...) they'll be far behind the rest of the Devs that already have the Tech on Lock, and even if they made a decent game, a lot of gamers would not support them.

Edit: @Dmason

All theyre talking about is Hardware...and it's not like they're lying. They're not saying anything negative about the 360 community, so thanks for proving my point.

Godmars2906076d ago

Well, as a KFC employee, I'd much rather they waste the little bit they get out of my paycheck into developing a SCRAM jet instead of continuing to use something that by all rights should have been retired in the 90s.

Okay, that a lie: I don't really work for KFC.

ukilnme6076d ago

^^^

Wall of text is killing me. It's just games people.

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DMason6076d ago

Oh, then you must have switched subjects, because I was talking about bias and fanboyism in general. Therefor, your point is invalid.

PS3PCFTW6075d ago

that its ok to bash sony on n4g.

but DONT YOU DARE TALK BAD ABOUT THE 360. your comments will be deleted and you will be banned.

GarandShooter6075d ago

Damn your lies, Godmars, I was just going to PM you to order some chicken...extra crispy...mashed potatoes and gravy...coleslaw...damnit!

Unicron6075d ago

"This is why we cant have people working at KFC advising NASA on how launch the next satellite into space."

Cool. Can't wait until the next NPD then when everyone becomes an armchair analyst!

Traveler6075d ago

PS3 is my favorite console, but I think a lot of fellow PS3 gamers are blowing Valve's comments way out of proportion. Their comments haven't been nearly as inflammatory as some make them out to be.

They said the PS3 was hard to developer for, but that is common knowledge. Lots of developers have said that, so why jump on Valve for saying the same thing? The fact that Naughty Dog and Guerrilla and other developers have made amazing games for the PS3 doesn't mean that the console isn't harder to developer for, it just proves that it can be done. Now, that doesn't mean that every 3rd party developer is going to find it in their best interest to tackle the hardware.

I also don't know what people are talking about them insulting the PS3 community. That's silly. I read the comments they made on the subject and I didn't find them offensive whatsoever. I don't completely agree with them, but it was a simple opinion and I don't think it was offensive.

People need to stop being so touchy. It gets us nowhere.

jmare6075d ago

Are you really that stupid? A developer, who solely develops for the PS3, talking about why the game they are working on can't work on another platform because of the storage medium and the the processor architecture are so radically different that the game as it is would simply not work from a technical standpoint is talking sh1t? Grow the fvck up!

While people do take Valve's comments a bit too seriously, the fact remains that Valve is the only developer that continues to have problems with the PS3 to this day. They are also very vocal about it. This wouldn't be a big deal if they had either: A) Developed a game for the PS3; or B) just not comment about it. They have done neither. It also comes across as these comments are in response to questions about whether or not they will develop for the PS3 so they come up with bullshit excuses because there is no real justification for them not to other then they just don't want to. Yet they can't man up and just say, "We don't want to work on the PS3. No reason, we just don't want to." If they would just say that, people would respect them more.

dreamcast6075d ago

"I don't see anyone complaining about Quantic Dreams, SuckPunch or Insomniac not making games or Nintendo or Microsoft."

I haven't seen any of those devs make several fanboyish statements about a video game console. I don't recall anyone badmouthing Bioware (pre-Dragon Age) or Remedy, so it must be something with Valve /shrug

Shepherd 2146075d ago (Edited 6075d ago )

Yea well most devs cant even make a single player experience that can even touch Half Life 2 and its episodes, so Valve can pretty much say what they want. Also Valve wants to make games for 360 just cause they can and if that fails, they can just go pack to strictly PC games that look better than PS3 and 360. They win, everyone else who cries about it loses.

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Nitrowolf26076d ago (Edited 6076d ago )

@ Sonyslave
none of those company you listed bashed the 360 or talked trash about the competition.
I'm ok with the fact that Valve said it once that they couldn't develope for ps3, but evertime we hear them now in there post there something to bash towards the ps3.
Turn 10 deos the same also. Has PD ever say anything about turn 10 in any of there post? Ya mybe they say something to each other but never let the community know about it.
Thats why people respect them allot more not cause of the games they make but the things they say, they choose there words carefully and try not to upset the community of the opposite

JOLLY16076d ago (Edited 6076d ago )

Fanboy Websites (playstationuniversity.com) Need to STFU....see what I did there?

techie6076d ago

They're hardly a fanboy website.

DavePSU6076d ago

@2.

Lol -- PlayStation University has published several negative Sony articles and editorials. Including "Sony: The Death of Consumer Loyalty."

Hardly fanboyish.

Thanks though.

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JOLLY16076d ago

You kids are too easy....skv, try proofing your comments before posting.

Pennywise6076d ago

I know you can't "See what I did there" like you a smoothly and ORIGINALLY said, but I will try to contribute to making the "fanboys" stated in this article stfu... 1 more to go.

nycredude6076d ago

LOL all you fools thinking this is a fanboy website just because of their name!

These guys actually are very strict with their reviews of PS exclusives, unlike most major game sites.

techie6076d ago

They also had that IBM cancelling Cell article that all the XBox 360 fanboys loved the other day...so yeah.

The guy doing this video is just having some fun and watching all of you guys have hissy fits lol.

sikbeta6076d ago

This JOLLY1 kid make the things more easy

Yeah, pretty easy to beat a fanboy babe, beating fanboys is starting to become really boring...

Come on kid, at least put some effort

-"but..but... valvez iz tha bezt becauze iz make gamez on tha xzboxz and I lovez it juzt fot thatz"

lol

leila016076d ago (Edited 6076d ago )

They could have called themselves "Gaminguniversity", "Controlleruniversity or something of that sort... instead they chose "playstationuniversity, just saying.

Soldierone6076d ago

xbox fanboys need to stay out of the playstation area...see what i did there?

techie6076d ago

And XboxAcademy is on the way.

Shepherd 2146075d ago

OXM also gives bad reviews to plenty of 360 games, but fanboys still call OXM bias towards 360. See what i did there.

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Silverwolf6076d ago

Has some great games. But I have to admit I not only agree with what he said I feel the same way to about Valve.

leila016076d ago (Edited 6076d ago )

I feel the same way too braw. I mean they disrespected my mother... err I mean my system, there's no way I'm gonna let that slide!

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

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-Foxtrot76d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle76d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7776d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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italiangamer85d ago

"Gaming’s Biggest Fighting Franchise"

Press X to (seriously) doubt.

DarXyde83d ago

Underrated comment. I used to hate that game so much that any time my siblings asked me to play it, I just picked Hom and shut myself down mid-match.

Soy83d ago

And then MK1 killed it again.

DivineHand12583d ago (Edited 83d ago )

15 years went by so fast. I remember playing through the story mode at launch.

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PlayStation legend Shuhei Yoshida says Jim Ryan fired him because he didn't listen to him

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Relientk7784d ago

Yeah I can see that for sure. Shuhei Yoshida should have been in charge not Jim Ryan.

Cacabunga84d ago

It should be free highway for him now.. but Sony are too stupid to see this, especially that moron Hulst

S2Killinit84d ago (Edited 84d ago )

Wtf why all that anger. PlayStation is dominating on every level. Besides I think there is a little more to hiring a CEO than just who is available. Its not like its a athlete your team wants to buy.

neutralgamer199284d ago

S2Killinit

live service failures, chasing trends, closing studios. yes dominating

Cacabunga84d ago

Sony is Dominating because competition is not existing. Compared to previous gens this is the poorest in terms of software offerings.

Last gen we got Uncharted 4 Lost Legacy and TLOU2 from ND alone.

This is so far a remasters gen, with no competition to lift up the quality

1nsomniac84d ago (Edited 84d ago )

..."PlayStation is dominating on every level"....

...Really???

PlayStation are soon heading into a new generation in the not to distant future. They currently have the worst customer satisfaction they've ever sustained as a company. The company is heading for a huge crash while at the same time they'll need to be planning how they are going to try and win back that favour and the build up to their new releases.

Yes financially they're winning but they're going to have to ride out this complete public corporate disaster. No one has faith in the company or the product anymore. They've damaged their public image so much this generation. Greed can kill anyone.

medman83d ago

Hulst is a disaster......

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blacktiger84d ago

He would've done the same thing and fire Jim Ryan and Shuhei would be the villain. Why?
Because Elite creates the narrative and distraction for gamers, users and citizens.

Outside_ofthe_Box84d ago

More confirmation that Jim Ryan is the culprit for what has happened to Sony. Hulst needs to go too. What sucks is that a lot of the good top heads at Sony are no longer there. I wish that guys that were forced out prematurely by Dumbo Jimbo like Shuhei and Layden came back.

robtion83d ago

Yep. Yoshida was responsible for bringing one of the best games of this generation to playstation (Stellar Blade). He is an actual gamer and is in touch with what gamers want (creative, fun games, not GaaS and agenda pushing). He also seems like a genuinely nice guy if you watch some interviews. Of course they got rid of him.

darthv7284d ago

Makes you wonder if MS even thought about hiring him after Phil and Sarah were leaving. He certainly couldn't make their situation any worse.

Agent7584d ago

Microflop. After Windows XP and Xbox 360, it all went floppy.

S2Killinit84d ago

Floppy 😆
No pun intended

badz14984d ago

Yoshida for President! Jim Ryan was and always be a hack! Sony should get Shu back

Lightning7784d ago

All the gamer/consumer lead heads are gone across PS and Xbox. shuhei gone phil's gone (questionable) but gone. The future of gaming is somewhat uncertain across the board.

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