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Rumor: Sony In Talks With Mozilla

If things work out with these talks, our PS3 net browsing experience could soon get a LOT better.

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YLOD Service Tech6023d ago

No matter what browser you port onto the PS3 it will suck hard. With only 256mb of available RAM, you won't get any better than the current one. Another attempt waiting to fail from Sony.

Double076023d ago (Edited 6023d ago )

News sent in: 4 minutes ago.

Inbred troll above comments 3 minutes later.

Nice job man that was pretty quick piece of trolling. And speaking of fail im pretty sure you know all about that right.

Hows the internet browser working on your 360? Oh..hang on.

tdrules6023d ago

go to processes on your pc and tell me how much memory the firefox browser is using, it is never above 100k really.
keep on trollin'

Foliage6023d ago

It's such a shame for you that the PS3 has 512mb of ram and a more streamlined pipeline than the 360, it also has a much better processor (not even close). Sorry bot, but crying in every PS3 thread will not make the emptiness go away. Microsoft touched you inappropriately, just face it and move along.

Anorexorcist6023d ago (Edited 6023d ago )

"With only 256mb of available RAM, you won't get any better than the current one. Another attempt waiting to fail from Sony."

Oh really???

That is an interesting assessment there because...last time I checked...that grey block with that red circle at the front of it that you worship that sits next to your television set doesn't even have a web browser!

You Troll, Therefore You Are!!!

Foliage6023d ago

This technical jargon probably means nothing to a simpleton like you, but:

ps3 = 256mb ram CPU ram operating at 3.2 GHz.
360 = 512mb shared ram operating at 700 MHz.

That 3.2 GHz actually means something. The PS3 RAM is so much faster than the pathetic 360 RAM that your argument makes no sense. Another thing, shared RAM is a disaster in performance. Just another reason why the 360 is made of fail.

It also helps that the PS3 has that additional 256mb of RAM. I hope I didn't interrupt your crying period. I know after reading this you are going to need a bigger bucket.

Hellsvacancy6023d ago

Does the 360 even hav a web-browser (not sarcasm)

xcox6023d ago (Edited 6023d ago )

check out http://www.astroglide.com/p...

my girlfriend says it worked miracles for her.

firefox on ps3? F@CK YEAH!

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fr0sty6023d ago (Edited 6023d ago )

That couldn't be farther from the truth. My firefox browser rarely ever goes over 256mb's of ram used, and that's with several tabs open at once. PS3 is sure to limit you to 3-4 tabs at once like it currently does to prevent too much RAM from being used.

The internet doesn't require much memory, the average web page doesn't exceed a few MB's in size.

I currently have like 8 tabs open, and I'm at 280 mb's of ram used.

zootang6023d ago (Edited 6023d ago )

I take this with a pinch of salt

@below
I agree + Bubble!

fr0sty6023d ago

as you should with ANY rumor, no matter how reliable the source.

coolcole936023d ago

Would you all join me in a prayer that this is true?

*prays*

darthv726023d ago

be it chrome, firefox, opera or even safari...all of them are better than the current ps3 browser. I will gladly take any of them over the current browser any day.

In fact...I do.

Lifendz6023d ago

if they get a Mozilla interface it would be even better. Pretty soon the PS3 box is going to be clogged with all the features/functionality (netflix, blu-ray, free online, PSN, Mozilla browser, Facebook, etc, etc).

raztad6023d ago (Edited 6023d ago )

@^^

Let me pry with you brother.

I think very very lightweight versions of Gecko (mozilla engine) are running in small devices. Something in the lines (extremely low memory footprint) should come to the PS3 OS. That would be incredible. I hope there is some truth behind this, Sony knows its browser its really lacking.

fr0sty6023d ago

this comes from a source I trust very much... they helped us with other rumors in the past, like pinpointing the exact date we'd hear about firmware 3.0, the price cut, the slim, and more.

So far this person has been on point with their rumors.

Karum6023d ago

I'll join you in prayer there mate, I don't think much of the PS3 browser (although it has improved a little over time) but if Sony and Mozilla could get a version of Firefox that looks and works as well as their PC version of the browser then I'll maybe make more use of the web browsing abilities on the PS3.

here's to hoping.

leila016023d ago (Edited 6023d ago )

I'd rather have Chrome, but anything is better than the current browser and Firefox is very good anyway.

I hope Sony keeps adding stuff to the XMB like they've been doing recently it's really great.

solidt126023d ago (Edited 6023d ago )

This is BS. By using Firefox the PS3 would be vulnerable to too many exploits. Sony wouldn't do this. Im a Network Security consultant and although i love using firefox it is not fit for a Console period. It is a memory hog. This is a rumor someone started just because of the Face Book addition and simply is not true.

D4RkNIKON6023d ago

This news better be true because it is receiving nothing but praise. Every one knows the PS3 browser is functional but not perfect, this would change things for the better. Once the PS3 has improved it's web browser and more people start to use it I could see MS trying to partner with someone to do the same. Also what if the web browser could be pulled up in game or over top of any app so it doesn't have to be running solo. NICE!

Noctis Aftermath6023d ago

Firefox on PS3? hell yes.
The current browser is just to slow, if they add firefox i will go buy a bluetooth keyboard and mouse and never again will i have to use this crap laptop!

coolcole936023d ago (Edited 6023d ago )

Why? PC exploits wouldn't work on a PS3 anyway. And isn't FF one of the safest browsers for PC anyway..?

mal_tez926023d ago

Pray in one hand and s#1t in the other and see which fills up first.

But seriously, if there's one thing on the PS3 that needs improvement it's the web browser. It's quite easy to use right now, but it's just soooooo slooooowwwww.

Schobeleth6023d ago

And actually replaced the current browser with Firefox or simply added Firefox, I'd be a very happy boy. Firefox is my browser of choice because it's simply the best.

Jamegohanssj56023d ago

Give me this Sony and we'll be friends for life. All I really want is a decent web browser.

TGSI

raztad6023d ago

@solid

I understand your point, and it's truth to some extent, but in my previuos post I made a very brief comment regarding memory overhead. Firefox is the full fledged browser for a full fledged OS based on the engine called Gecko. There is several very lightweight implementation of Gecko in really small devices, like phones and appliances.

Christopher6023d ago

Mozilla alone would be worth it. Throw in the plug-ins and who really needs anything else to integrate with Twitter, facebook, or any other social network since the browser plug-ins more than take care of this?

Anyway, I'm going to go on with the idea that this is as true as the moon being made out of cheese. No need for hopes to ever get splashed against the rocks at the bottom of the cliff.

Ocelot5256023d ago (Edited 6023d ago )

@Solid

NO, YOU'RE WRONG, adaware, spyware,virusses can't install and execute themselfes on the PS3 cuz there are no directory's where they can run themselves(only the directories VIDEO,MUSIC,PICTURES,GAMESAVES and PS/PSGAMESAVES are available for the user, and in there no programs can be executed), also the OS(including the browser) can't be infected because the firmware can only be rewritten if you got a digital signiture of sony(cf. only sony can change the OS)

the only 'possible traits' are spycookies

As a student in computer science my heart bleeds if I read such BS posted here

Nemo886023d ago

But tell me how they manage to flash psp's? is there someway to spoof the digital signatures?

I do realise that is would be much harder due to the design to write the conventional type of malware..

Ocelot5256023d ago (Edited 6023d ago )

didn't they hack the PSP with a bug in gta liberty city stories?
They probably avoid the authentication of the update with a bug in the software.

so yes you could have a virus on the ps3 if they find an exploit to install unofficial FW, but this would be a nice punishment for the pirates who would want to use custom FW to run burned games

OpenGL6023d ago (Edited 6023d ago )

I hate it too when I hear people attempting to incite fear amongst the console crowd with talks of "viruses" on the PS3. To install malware it would need to be in a firwmare package. If the PS3 ever ends up getting custom firmware, it would be the user's fault for downloading and installing tainted custom firmware.

It would also be against the EULA, so if you were under warranty prior to that, Sony would not be assisting you in the repair of your console. The same rules of course apply to the 360, but I typically hear less fear mongering about viruses with that platform due to its lack of a web browser.

sunil6023d ago

firefox uses tons of memory... with that being lacking on the PS3.. they should go with Google and Chrome

ludabenza6023d ago

If this is true then this would be a great addition to the PS3, and Sony would have pulled of a stroke of genius.

If it also had all the extension functionality of Firefox then it would be even better. But at this stage I would not hedge my bets on anything.

zeeshan6023d ago

This would be huge if it turns out to be true!

GrandTheftZamboni6023d ago

It's kinda slow, but I find the speed quite acceptable. I love full screen view and browsing with Dualshock. The only problem I have is not keeping login information on N4G in more than one web page and I noticed gizmag.com prompts me to join on every new page, so I guess there is a problem in accessing cookie directory. Also, PS3 home page has lately been 1/4 normal size. I'd stay with NetFront if they fix those issues.
On my PC, Google Chrome is noticeably the fastest browser, and it has small resource footprint, so I'd rather go with Chrome if they decide to change it.

Karum6023d ago

You realise they'd need to pretty much code a completely different browser for the PS3 compared to the one that runs on PC right? For a security consultant you're prone to missing the obvious, which is worrying.

himdeel6023d ago

...at home anymore if they did this. It's been many a moon since I've had a rig to drool over and PC games I've just had to play so I'd welcome an improved we browser.

sikbeta6023d ago

OH YEAH!!!! I want Foxkeh in my PS3 Browser

Real Gambler6023d ago

The problem with the actual PS3 browser is simply all the missing plugins!!! If you just surf plain pages, it's simply awesome. But sure enough, if you need flash, java, all the movie players plugin (windows, quicktime, etc, etc), then you may not like the actual one.

Now, sure enough, they could add a very small version of Firefox. Heck, the Windows version is less than 8 meg! (There's simply no other software that small that do that much). Reducing it to fit into the PS3 is quite a possibility. But as soon as you get into a wacky page with a few funky pluggins, you're still be screwed. Java? big. Flash? Bigger, quicktime? big Windows Media Player? bigger. Dreaming of adding extensions? Dream on... Some of them are bigger than Firefox themselves.

So best case, you get Firefox, but with pretty much the same fonctionality you have in the current browser. What's the point!

Ocelot5256023d ago

don't confuse java and javascript, javascript is essential to a browser, java is heavy(the javalibrary must be loaded in the memory) and for special applications.

the real problem with the current browser is the poor(or maybe non existent) hardware acceleration, in other words: the graphics isn't used for flash(this explains why there is no hq button in youtube on the ps3)

also the current browser is poorly programmed with many memory leaks

windows media player plugin is not necessary anymore for a modern browser, only old sites still use it

the browser also needs to be more in compliance with the W3C rules, which would result in displaying webpages like the developer intended, instead of bars on strange places like it is now

Comet6023d ago

I already am using Firefox on my PlayStation 3!
It's called installing an additional operating system called Ubuntu Linux.
Works like a charm... ;D

TotalPS3Fanboy6023d ago

can run Firefox fine. PS3, a console with 512 MB of RAM, will run it fine too.

uie4rhig6023d ago

the closest thing to Firefox we could get on PS3 is the current PS3 browser running on a stripped down Gecko engine.. the Gecko itself has soo many features (addons and themes being the biggest) that Sony will prevent coming on the PS3 to avoid PS3's getting hacked (precaution).. this means that things like the XUL runner won't be there as afaik XUL is only used for drawing firefox specific images on the screen and they're used for addons.. and the interface won't be like Firefox's.. tbh.. its more likely that Sony will implement the WebKit engine rather than the Gecko engine!

UltraNova6022d ago

If you think about its kinda logical since Sony hasn't made any serious effort in improving the PS3's browser since launch. I would love to see this come into fruition cause it beats browsing the net through my full HD set rather than my 15'' laptop screen ! Come on Sony close the deal already!

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reintype6023d ago

The best thing about Firefox, is that it got a ton of add-on support, but I doubt will have that on the PS3.

It probably make more sense to have Google's Chrome instead, it's much faster and leaner. A better fit for the PS3 IMO.

fr0sty6023d ago

i would imagine some plug-ins would work with it, though I doubt we'd get ad block pro or any of that stuff.

And firefox is much more well known than chrome, so it would have a bigger impact to say ps3 has firefox than to say it has chrome.

Rock Bottom6023d ago

Firefox rapes my RAM, it will never work nicely with the PS3, I'd go with Chrome.

Noctis Aftermath6023d ago

if it happens it will most likely be a modified version of firefox to lower ram usage.

Simon_Brezhnev6023d ago

yeah i rather have google chrome

kharma456023d ago

Opera I think would work well.

Speed Dial for instance would be nice to have on the PS3, and would make for easy navigation.

I know you can get add-ons for FF to give it Speed Dial, but firstly it's not as good, and if FF came to PS3, I think Sony would hold back on extensions incase they gave a vulnerability to their system in some way.

Trevorthenerd6023d ago

You guys do know that chrome is basicly a re skinned chrome with some minor improvements?

Consoldtobots6022d ago

I can launch/close and relaunch chrome in the time it takes firefox to boot up once.

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fr0sty6023d ago

I agree with you, but in this case, ANY improvement is a welcome one.

-EvoAnubis-6023d ago

That's very true. I just want to see more stuff from Google on my PS3. Like everyone that's wanting XGC on the PS3...I'd rather have Google Voice or Talk. Or BOTH.

JD_Shadow6023d ago

I like Firefox a lot, myself. It's right now the main browser I use. This would be PERFECT for Sony and would really put major pressure on Microsoft to add a browser (IE, perhaps) to the 360.

In my mind, the only reason why they have "integrated" FB and Twitter on the 360 is because there isn't a web browser on the 360, and MS seems to be in no hurry to add one (which is stupid, since that is a HUGE thing that Sony has over MS (remember, also, that Nintendo has the Opera browser, too).

koehler836023d ago

I agree, however Firefox and Chrome are built on the same open source technology. Strip either down to it's basic browser elements and they're essentially identical. That would necessary if either were to implement a browser in the PS3. So basically it's the same either way.

Nemo886023d ago

I believe firefox used Gecko rendering engine, and chrome uses Webkit, like safari.

I agree Chrom would be a much better fit, better gui tech built in as well. Only thing is it would probably take long...theyve taken ages to get even a mac version out I can see it taking till March 2010 or something for Chrome on ps3.

However it could be great marketing for both Google and Sony. Ps3 fans who all of a sudden have a great, quick browser, realise they are using Google chrome and download the pc version. And if that takes off then yeah other cool Google software. Would be amazing.

Think Mozilla would be quicker out the gate though, and imo will be keen to do this as their popularity overall is down at the moment from a few years ago.. esp before Chrome.

ActionBastard6023d ago (Edited 6023d ago )

The relationship Sony has with Google appears too strong for them to be in talks with Mozilla. Sony was the first laptop manufacturer to include Chrome pre-installed on it's latest Vaio line. Life with PlayStation is "powered by Google". They integrated Internet search in the XMB which is also "powered by Google"...I see Chrome actually happening.

Also...Google Voice (I have an account) would be EPIC on PS3. Use it for cross game chat with users on PSN and outside. *sigh*

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot17d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle17d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7717d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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15 Years Ago, Mortal Kombat (2011) Saved Gaming’s Biggest Fighting Franchise

A brutal reset, a smarter story, and a return to what made it great—Mortal Kombat (2011) revived the series.

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italiangamer26d ago

"Gaming’s Biggest Fighting Franchise"

Press X to (seriously) doubt.

DarXyde24d ago

Underrated comment. I used to hate that game so much that any time my siblings asked me to play it, I just picked Hom and shut myself down mid-match.

Soy24d ago

And then MK1 killed it again.

DivineHand12524d ago (Edited 24d ago )

15 years went by so fast. I remember playing through the story mode at launch.

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PlayStation legend Shuhei Yoshida says Jim Ryan fired him because he didn't listen to him

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Relientk7726d ago

Yeah I can see that for sure. Shuhei Yoshida should have been in charge not Jim Ryan.

Cacabunga25d ago

It should be free highway for him now.. but Sony are too stupid to see this, especially that moron Hulst

S2Killinit25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

Wtf why all that anger. PlayStation is dominating on every level. Besides I think there is a little more to hiring a CEO than just who is available. Its not like its a athlete your team wants to buy.

neutralgamer199225d ago

S2Killinit

live service failures, chasing trends, closing studios. yes dominating

Cacabunga25d ago

Sony is Dominating because competition is not existing. Compared to previous gens this is the poorest in terms of software offerings.

Last gen we got Uncharted 4 Lost Legacy and TLOU2 from ND alone.

This is so far a remasters gen, with no competition to lift up the quality

1nsomniac25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

..."PlayStation is dominating on every level"....

...Really???

PlayStation are soon heading into a new generation in the not to distant future. They currently have the worst customer satisfaction they've ever sustained as a company. The company is heading for a huge crash while at the same time they'll need to be planning how they are going to try and win back that favour and the build up to their new releases.

Yes financially they're winning but they're going to have to ride out this complete public corporate disaster. No one has faith in the company or the product anymore. They've damaged their public image so much this generation. Greed can kill anyone.

medman25d ago

Hulst is a disaster......

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blacktiger25d ago

He would've done the same thing and fire Jim Ryan and Shuhei would be the villain. Why?
Because Elite creates the narrative and distraction for gamers, users and citizens.

Outside_ofthe_Box26d ago

More confirmation that Jim Ryan is the culprit for what has happened to Sony. Hulst needs to go too. What sucks is that a lot of the good top heads at Sony are no longer there. I wish that guys that were forced out prematurely by Dumbo Jimbo like Shuhei and Layden came back.

robtion25d ago

Yep. Yoshida was responsible for bringing one of the best games of this generation to playstation (Stellar Blade). He is an actual gamer and is in touch with what gamers want (creative, fun games, not GaaS and agenda pushing). He also seems like a genuinely nice guy if you watch some interviews. Of course they got rid of him.

darthv7226d ago

Makes you wonder if MS even thought about hiring him after Phil and Sarah were leaving. He certainly couldn't make their situation any worse.

Agent7525d ago

Microflop. After Windows XP and Xbox 360, it all went floppy.

S2Killinit25d ago

Floppy 😆
No pun intended

badz14925d ago

Yoshida for President! Jim Ryan was and always be a hack! Sony should get Shu back

Lightning7725d ago

All the gamer/consumer lead heads are gone across PS and Xbox. shuhei gone phil's gone (questionable) but gone. The future of gaming is somewhat uncertain across the board.

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