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Valve has teams 'working on other stuff'

Videogamer writes: "Left 4 Dead 2 has gone gold and will be in stores and available via Steam from November 20, but beyond supporting that title, what lies ahead for Valve? More Left 4 Dead? A Portal sequel? What of Half-Life 2: Episode 3?

We recently caught up with Valve writer Chet Faliszek and quizzed him on all the above."

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GWAVE6032d ago

Hmmmm. "Working on other stuff" can only mean one of three things when it comes to Valve these days:

1) finding free community mods, re-skinning them, and selling them as full retail games

2) taking one of their older games, doing minor touch-ups on the graphics, and slapping a "2" or "Episode X" on the end of it

3) thinking of new ways to slam the PS3 platform, though they haven't once developed a game for it

I speak the truth.

KingKionic 6032d ago

If you referring to left 4 dead 2 , it cant be a dlc .

It`s bigger then the the first left 4 dead .

Dexters6032d ago

Please troll in the Open Zone GWAVE. Thanks.

MasFlowKiller6032d ago

I want HL3 not HL Episode 3
and i still left 4 dead 2 could have all been DLC, not all together at once but spread out , i played the demo and its not doing anything new for me so am skipping this one.

Perjoss6032d ago

hmm,
I think its more likely they are all just sitting around playing WoW on giant monitors

http://media.photobucket.co...

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Godmars2906032d ago

In the amount of time they've been supposedly working on episode 3, how many full games with complete, fleshed out plots have other devs made?

Never mind that when it does come out, it not really going to be much of an improvement gameplay or graphics wise.

KingKionic 6032d ago

"In the amount of time they've been supposedly working on episode 3, how many full games with complete, fleshed out plots have other devs made? "

How do you know ?

There a small team .

Godmars2906032d ago (Edited 6032d ago )

That happens to manage a very popular, and hopefully very profitable, download. Yet they not only take years to put out a game, but when they come out they tend to be bug riddled.

Edit: BTW:
"They're a small team."
"There is a small team."
"Their one of EA's small teams."

As much as I hate people making this mistake, I make it as well :p

KingKionic 6032d ago

"hopefully very profitable"

There`s nothing valve has to be hopeful for. There making a lot cash off steam .

" Yet they not only take years to put out a game, but when they come out they tend to be bug riddled. "

Xbox 360 has some bugs in it but nothing outrageous . PC i cant comment on .

toaster6032d ago

Let me ask you this.
How many games rock a 96 on Metacritic?
How many games have the full support from community? That's mods, forums, clans, socializing.
How many games in a series has been all AAA?
How many franchises have a f*cking gravity gun?

Godmars2906032d ago (Edited 6032d ago )

Its either "They're making a lot cash off Steam," or "They are making a lot cash off Steam." And I say "hopefully" because you never really know if they're making money off it or just breaking even. If they are making tons off of it, they certainly have space to ignore and insult a platform that they could have made a few million off of.

As for them being anything on the 360 I still hold, have nothing that convinces me otherwise, that Valve are PC snobs at best. That if MS hadn't made the 360's dev tools PC friendly you probably wouldn't have seen it on the system.

That they have to patch a demo twice with one literally atop the other, especially when we're talking about a ten year old game engine, smacks of something other than snobery much less talent to me.

@toaster:
What does any of that have to do with anything? Especially a supportive community who's only going to defend something they obviously like.

Yes, people like Valve games. That doesn't excuse Valve from taking years to make added content or patching demos hours after they're released.

toaster6032d ago (Edited 6032d ago )

They made Steam the superior distribution service.

And IMO I think Valve should NEVER have developed for 360. They're wasting they're time. I own a 360 btw. When I play Orange Box on 360 it makes me want to cry in shame at how they mutilated the game.

KingKionic 6032d ago

lol...godmars .

Thank you for correcting my spelling .

Every game has bugs . Your acting like these bugs are stopping people from enjoying the game .

Wouldn't a game being ported have a few bugs ?

Godmars2906032d ago (Edited 6032d ago )

Missing the point.

Its not like bugs aren't common, its that it seems they're more common with Valve. That because Valve has Steam to lean on, they use it to excess. That instead of taking the time to make something that should be forgettable - by the programmers - as a demo is done right the first time, its sent out in such a state that it has to be fixed otherwise it could make them look bad. With the only reason they aren't looking bad by patching it is that "bugs are common."

Its like they're playing off the same mentality that has people thanking MS for 3 year warrenties instead of making a 360 right the first time.

mastiffchild6032d ago

I'ce been off good terms with Valve for a while now. To be honest it was the last straw for me when they sold me the 360 version of L4D. I wanted to play with a few non PC gaming mates and loved a little L4D on the PC previously. Now I didn't expect parity but neither did I expect the overprived, underpowered mess I payed for. Nothing that makes the PC version good is present in the 360 game-lesss support from Valve, no community support, no mods. And it cost me over twice what I payed on Steam to add insult to injury.

That's why I had to laugh when Gabe apologised for the OB port on PS3 that they didn't even do! They SHOULG have been saying sorry about THAT pile of crap they ARE responsible(directly) for.

360 only gamers sometimes act like it's one of the 360's crown jewels when, in fact, it's plainly embarrassing and they shoul moan like mad at both Valve and MS for the sorry state of affairs. The only thing more ludicrous is PS3 owners jealous of it! If they only knew! Played on PC it's a great .little game but on 360 it's beyong insulting. Worst gaming experience this gen was being so let down by this.

As for bugs, we get more and more from most devs as they realise what a crappy, soulless community we are-more interested in rubbishing each other than demanding the quality we deserve. Just look at IW this week to see what I mean. They're hardly being punished for dragging MP gaming backwards are they? Never mind just PC gamers we should have ALL demended them and not bought til they caved in. If one treats us crappy and gets away with it most of them will!

STONEY46032d ago

"That they have to patch a demo twice with one literally atop the other, especially when we're talking about a ten year old game engine, smacks of something other than snobery much less talent to me."

On PC, patching is a bit different than console devs do it. Instead of waiting a month or two and releasing a big patch, PC devs release small updates regulary so we don't have to wait. Only takes about 5 seconds to download and install through Steam. The Left4Dead 2 patches for the demo were pretty small.

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tamd6032d ago

it should Hl 2 EPisode 3 or Team Fortress 2 class update (lol)

ZombieAutopsy6032d ago

counter strike source 2??? for consoles also please.

toaster6032d ago (Edited 6032d ago )

You're joking right?

CS2 would never come consoles. If you think hard enough you can figure out why.

EDIT: @ Below

The reason why the XBox Version was never popular because it sucked. A game like CS needs the community for maps, mods, skins, and a whole bunch of other stuff.

I think there are only about 20 official maps for CSS.

When you look for a game you'll see about 100+ different maps. Each map has specific rules, gametypes, restrictions, whathaveyou.
That would never be possible on consoles.

ZombieAutopsy6032d ago

why? Yea the first one was on pc only but their was also a counter strike for the original xbox if you remember so i dont see why they wouldnt make a cheap port to make a ton of money.

trancefreak6032d ago

Toaster is right the mods and downloadble maps to skinning players and weapons what take the fun out of it for sure.

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Top Horde Shooters Your Squad Should Play

The Guide Hall explores the top horde shooters that co-op fans should be playing this year before the upcoming launch of Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2!

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15 Xbox Games That Should Make the Multiplatform Jump

While there’s likely already a list behind closed doors, one can still speculate and offer logical suggestions for titles new and old that should find their way into the PlayStation and Switch libraries.

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GamerRN794d ago

Single A games and live service games. Those make sense

S2Killinit794d ago

None of it makes sense. But its happening.

Ps5conehead793d ago

That’s up to Microsoft they want return on there investment. From buying up those publishers. That’s what there in business for. And they made a mistake putting day one exclusive on game pass. So now Microsoft wants to profit any way they can.its called buisness . Just like Sony putting games on pc a year are two after ps5 launch.
So if they can make money off PlayStation and Nintendo. They will do that. And I bet soon real soon they will release some aaa exclusives .and I bet one day it will be same day release

TheEroica793d ago

Sony gamers begging for Xbox games.... Who would've thunk it?

BISHOP-BRASIL793d ago

Yeah, because random site off the internet represents all Sony gamers, they have the letter of attorney and all...

S2Killinit793d ago

Lol what a spin. You dizzy?

AsunaYuukiTheFlash793d ago (Edited 793d ago )

We don’t care about shovelwares. Get that junk out of PS5

StormSnooper793d ago

More like MS begging to put their games on PlayStation.

TheEroica792d ago

Keep begging Sony gamers!

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Friendlygamer794d ago

Some of these seem to be exclusive for lack of enthusiasm of the publisher rather than because of deals. A lot of cool indies skip ps for some reason like katana zero, el paso, elsewhere and gunbrela

S2Killinit794d ago

Even more indies skip xbox. We know that right?

Friendlygamer794d ago

Quality over quantity, Microsoft got some really interesting and curated niche games on their machines, maybe in part because of gamepass

S2Killinit793d ago

Quality and MS are not things you bring up in same sentence.

shinoff2183793d ago (Edited 793d ago )

Alot of indies skip xbox to. It goes round and round. Personally I think your off base on that but no need to have the argument.

Friendlygamer793d ago

Between katana zero, valheim, Battletech, el passo... I don't feel off base. maybe ps got a million of light novel games that will never release on Xbox but like I've said, I'm talking about niche games highlights, the 10%.

  Heck, it's probably thanks to Microsoft that the s.t.a.l.k.e.r games came to console ps included, meanwhile Sony backwards compatibility continues to be extremely anemic.

And I'm sure most ps5 users are happy to ignore these games and just play wathever new 3rd person action game is trending but it's cool that Microsoft gives some love to smaller audiences and software preservation

shinoff2183793d ago

Again your off base just to be snide. All it's showing though is your ignorance.

One light novels wtf is that even. Ps has plenty of pretty damn good indies.

Speaking of indies and ms being responsible. You know F.I.S.T. of course you do alot of you guys just support gamepass. Well here's a history of Sony being responsible for helping indies. Look up the China project from Sony.

Lastly lol your ignorance showing again. Sony has plenty of games. Personally third person is better then first anyway but that's besides the point. Sony gets so many games that xbox doesn't get because yall don't support the games. Jrpgs being a great example. I personally am not into every Sony first party game. Alot of us aren't. On the other side you don't get to eat often so you gobble up everything. Me personally God of War not my cup, etc. For me I'm into jrpgs and ms just can't touch Sony on those. Again because the Xbox base doesn't support it. Devs dont wanna waste their time or money. Hit me up when falcom develops a game over there.

Speaking of third person narrative games. Aren't yall drooling over hellblade 2. The first one was Sony exclusive at one point. Another not my cup game. Showing we don't have to fall in line and agree we love everything Sony puts out. The facts are they sell though unlike elsewhere(not nintendo)

StormSnooper793d ago

You are same person as GamerRN, yes?

Abnor_Mal794d ago

They really think PlayStation fans would want to play Redfall? Pfft.

Personally nothing on that list would be any game I’d want to play.

TwoPicklesGood794d ago

I’d absolutely love Hellblade 2, Palworld, and Quantum Break on ps5 as I’m sure tons of others would too. There’s nothing wrong with wanting games from another console and its sad that people try to act like they aren’t interested in them.

shinoff2183793d ago

While indont agree with the games. I agree with the point. Your not wrong.

DarXyde794d ago

Sunset Overdrive makes very good sense. Palworld might.

Don't know about the others. Hellblade II does make sense given the original launched on PS4 first. Quantum Break was a massive letdown for me. I absolutely hated the whole TV show thing and I don't think anyone should have to relive that on modern hardware.

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Valve Made Left 4 Dead 2 Because The First Game Was A Broken Mess

Left 4 Dead lead Chet Faliszek describes the original Left 4 Dead game as "such a broken thing that nobody wanted to touch it."

ZycoFox906d ago

And then couldn't be arsed to make a third game.

If they can add a lot more stuff to a 2nd game in just 1 year why didn't they make a third game a few years later with tons of stuff extra? Because that shows they could've.

I know Source 2 was kind of broken and was a reason they cancelled L4D3 but it seems wasteful to just toss it away.

Don't know what Valve were thinking.. it's like nobody wanted to fix the issues to get going. They certainly aren't the Valve of 2004 that released fun games with pretty cutting edge graphics.

cthulhucultist904d ago

Valve is allergic to number 3 it seems. It would be easier for them to release a Left 4 Dead 2.5 enhanced version instead of releasing a game with "3" slapped on its title.

rakentaja903d ago

They stopped making games a long time ago. Steam brings in so much money that it's really not worth the effort. Nowadays, people only look for faults in games, and spend more time whining on Twitter/X than playing the game anyway. Valve says a big fat no-no.

anast904d ago

Value is the Blockbuster of video games. They have no need to invest in deving a game, when they can make handfuls of cash renting them.

-Foxtrot905d ago

What are they talking about? Seemed pretty alright to me at launch it just wasn't supported the way Valve promised us

They should have just worked on a revamp / massive update to the game but they didn't they jumped straight to a sequel with brand new characters despite having some sort, if small, story about where the original survivors were heading.

I didn't care for the direction they took the sequel, the original games tone and atmosphere was missing in the second game and is still unmatched. Daytime levels, more whackiness, melee weapons where you could attack a Tank with a frying pan...just wasn't the same to be honest and the new survivors just didn't hold up the originals.

Here's my speculation. I think they did a sequel because they didn't want to update a game co-developed by Turtle Rock, they wanted the franchise to be known as a Valve game only and knew if they updated the first one Turtle Rocks name would still linger on it.

shaenoide904d ago

I want broken games like L4D all day long...

GhostScholar904d ago

Well the first game was by far the best

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