more damage!!!!! lmao!!!
or they jealous on heavy rain? hmmm..........

Indigo prophecy (by the same people) had a few very annoying QTE based action sequences but the vast majority of the game played like an interesting kind of point and click adventure. Given that they seem to have discarded the silly Simon says mechanics of Indigo prophecy's action sequences I'm really looking forward to this one.

Only idiots think it's "just QTE".

This guy is starting to sound like that guy from Silicon Knights (creator of Too Human)... defending his game a little too much. Heavy Rain will be a great experience and most of us should enjoy it... let the naysayer talk their crap... constantly defending your work before release just turns off people and validates the opinions of people who never even played your game.

Here is a dev that really want to do something different with a game that treats gamers as adults and push the medium to new heights and yet kids are already complaining that it's not shooter number 1 million that you must shoot/cover/shoot throughout the whole game.

HR is AO. Kids need not talk about it because they are not suppose to play it.

Well, I've played a part of the game in a gaming show ( http://www.n4g.com/up/22205... ) and so far, it was just investigation and QTEs. I don't doubt about Heavy Rain's quality, because Fahrenheit / Indigo Prophecy was already great, but QTEs seems to take a big place in the game, just like for Farhenheit / Indigo Prophecy (despite there were not "that much" QTEs in the game).

Quantic Dream just need to show more footage, and more footage without any QTE.

I agree. No matter how you say it or what you say no one will listen. Even if the game gets high scores across the board people will still scorn it. You see what he doesn't understand is that these days gamers are not the smartest people in the world. You don't have to be a genius to play Gears of war or Halo or even Fable or Morden Warfare. You just hold down the trigger and keep moving until the other guy dies. No one wants change or innovation. Why else do think that they made Halo and Street Fighter the same way every time? Because if you change the formula everyone will drop it like a stone. This game is just like Okami, Psychonauts and Viewtiful Joe. Great games and ideas, stupid gamers.

Prior to its release ninja blade was 'cool' in the way it used qte's then it came out and showed us how NOT to use qte's. There was a deafening silence from those same guys holding pitchforks....wonder why

Its MS whole mantra anyhow and it spreads down to its devs/customers of the fanboylike inclination... Dismiss what you dont have...Lord what you do have even if you now lord what you previously dissed.

You can almost apply that to the whole of MS and the guys that work closely with them....just sayin

Get the demo out and ensure it shows off what you want it too..

Topless Madison wink, wink ;)

I played this at PAX and in all honesty it was 85% QTE.

But it was still intriguing and I still will be picking this game up.
(gamefly)

I loved Fahrenheit and it was mostly QTE, but I hope this isn't quite the same tbh.

Looking forward to it regardless, plenty of replayability which is becoming more of a decision on any game purchase I make.

you might wanna check out the sales for Forza 3 and any other 360 exclusive that dosent have Halo in the title

QTEs are cool if they drive the story. I'm looking forward to having the QTE determine what I want to do and where I want to go.

Don't worry David Cage I will definitely buy your game.

I'm starting to think Cage doesn't know what a qte is. Ah well I'm still going to enjoy this game QTE's and all :)

Er Mr.D Cage it is only Jealous ChatBots + M$ Employees that say that on the internet!!! ;-D

Just ignore the Haters...i do!!! ;)

dude u always in the comment section 24/7 ....guess it shows that TapeBox has no games to play hey?...

shame ...Tapebots play sales and comments ..they don't play games

QTE's work well when used moderatly shenmue is a perfect example of how and when to use them even though it gets alot of hate, i thought it was brilliant bring on shemnue 3, anyway i like the theory behind heavy rain although like most of you im still having trouble working out just what that is.

Its really never been done before. A game has never let you have so much choice. Up until heavy rain the only choice was between good and evil and thats not how life is. In life you sometimes have to make choices that you dont know how qill turn out. That is heavy rain. Real choice that will test who you really are. Im glad this game is realeasing for ps3. 360 fanboys will probably bash it because its not a generic fps shooter but this is something special.

A symptom of blogosphere mentality. People talk sh*t about things they know nothing about on forums. Other clueless people read it & take it as gospel. Then they regurgitate the same misinformation on other posts.

I get Cage's ambition but when it comes to the gameplay aspect of the game, all that the gamer is focused on doing is QTE this and QTE that while controlling the camera view and speed of the character with the analog stick. It seems like a formula for a snore fest.

Prove me wrong Cage but for now, that's what's bothering many people including myself.

I still want to know what the game play is like without reading previews and possibly spoilers. Is it basically an adventure style game? I love adventure games!

"Having played Heavy Rain ourselves, we can't help but agree. Those labelling the game as one big QTE are utterly, utterly wrong. There you have it."

And that's all there is to say.

if you have any reservations about this game, go play FH/IP. if that game seems like a "snore fest" to you than go play halo. and also, whats wrong with qte? the kung fu scenes in farenheit where if you had full control, wouldve been reduced to spamming the same three hit combo over and over ad nauseum. i loved your previous work mr cage. . . count me in for anything else you ever make. bring on the qte's!

Seeing this game's clips sort of remind me of Shenmue in that you walk around and gather information, and there are moments where you fight with QTE and others where you fight Arcade style.

I dont know about all of you, but this game will be a VERY welcome addition to my PS3 library, I have a very open-ended taste in video games:

(Oblivion, Uncharted, Ratchet, GTA, Valkyria Chronicles, Ninja Gaiden S, to name a few)

So any game that brings something new and exciting to the table is OK in my book.

Those who arent willing to give the game a shot are not realizing that the less we accept new and innovative genres, the more we'll see the same types of games again and again. Namely FPS.

PLAY THIS GAME

You dont have to buy it, but PLAY it, dont judge it til you've tried it...i've missed QUITE a few gems in my life because I held stock in peoples opinions before my own when I was younger. Most of the games i've enjoyed the most have been games that were not recommended to me.

B-O-T-T-O-M- L-I-N-E

Try something new for once, eh?

QTE for Heavy Rain > Great!!!

QTE for Ninja Blade == Garbage!!!

I just want to know what the diff is.

i really enjoyed ninja blade. i held off buying it for a while cuz everyone was joking the qte's but it ended up being really solid.

That is why I brought it up. I enjoyed Ninja Blade with all its bugs and all. It was constant non stop over the top action and I think people should have given it a chance.

But the double standard about the QTE is interesting since that is why Ninja Blade got majorly pwned.

If you've read my rants before, you'll know this really sh*ts me too. If you dont know what this game is about, please read this.

I'm guessing a good 85% of this game will be like a standard adventure, looking around your environment for clues. It will be very cinematic of course, thanks to the great sounding controll system. An lots of 24 style camera moves, which were in Farenheight as well.

QTE's will be minimal. In fact, I'll go one step further and say, I dont even seen these as QTE's. Not in the sence were all use to.

A QTE in GoW war means, Kratos goes into some athletic move, you get the prompt to pres one specific button. If you dont press it, you fail and try the whole thing again.

In Heavy Rain its more like a choice is being given. You can push many buttons. You can push NONE if you want and see how that plays out. It giving you a crossroad where the decission you make will start you down a story path, not mearly having you pull off a special move.

These are CONTEXT SENSITIVE controls.Just like Zelda will have one button to open a door and then have the same button to grab a clay pot. There are 3 buttons on your left hand, do I grab the gun, the knife, or the banana. Theres 3 buttons on your right hand, do I grab the crowbar, the featherduster, or open the window?

Its letting you make a choice from a multitue of possible outcomes and like no other game before its letting you do this on the fly without having to go to some conversation tree.

You will be put on the spot at times, you will need to react quickly and you will have to deal with your decissions and the consequences.

Remember this is a game where you can actually die (probably through not reacting) and the story will continue with that charactor dead in the story. Who knows how many ways this can play out.

Shenmue
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This dynamite game above 'invented' the QTE's (Quick Time Events) and utilized them for martial arts and reflex actions that occurred during brief and extended cut-scenes. That's why Heavy Rain appeals to me so much, because it has that Shenmue feel to it. It's something innovating, fun and different all at the same time.

Most games poorly utilize QTE's but the way Heavy Rain approaches them, like Shenmue 1 and 2 did, is taking Shenmue's philosophy 1 step further into next-gen HD gaming and using them to tell a much deeper story and narration than in most games through a pre-played cinematic.

I can see why he's annoyed. All I read seems to be how Heavy Rain is like a movie and you just push a button hear and there. Watching videos of them playing demos though I see a lot more gameplay than that.