Yes, because you never claimed any high-ranked xbox game to be a flop, right?

Wait, you bots were saying flopza wasn't a flop because it scored well. Now you're saying KZ2 is a flop because it didn't do halo numbers. Which is it bots? Sales or scores? Make up your minds, hypocrites.

and splitscreen multiplayer; Let the single player be the killer graphics, I'd love to have a friend over and play some killzone with him/her; and if you ever played "strip (insert splitscreen game here)" with friends (no nudity, though) it's loads of fun.

"KZ seems focused to showcasing technical prowess. Split screen support isnt something I think they'd be focussing their time on"

KZ2 manage to do Amazing Graphics, If they need to sacrifice graphics for split-screen, is not a big loss, I'm sure GG will do an slightly better game with split-screen + co-op mode included

GAMERS FTW!!!

Obviously KZ3 is going to be made.

They better include split-screen co-op this time! My brother-in-law would rather PLAY KillZone than sit and watch ME play it.

Split screen sucks - i wanna FULL screen when i game, co-op would b cool though

Can't wait. Whenever they release it, KZ3 is bound to be EPIC.

Splitscreen isd ying outside of the Wii-and it really isn't just GG or KZ2 and 3 responsible for that. Few PS360 games have it this gen and I see no change back anytime soon-sad but true.

And didn't we all kind of assume GG were making this and it'd prolly be out next year?

game good experience,my biggest advice for gurella games is that

if you look at the 2005 trailer and the full game 2009,99% of people talk about how GG reached there goal in gfx and GG did the impossible but if you really focus on the 2005 trailer,you'll see more drama,more intensity more grittness,voice acting was much better than the full game,the 2005 trailer felt more heart pulsing.it felt So unique while the full game felt special of course but way less than trailer,it's a bit cold in comparison,matter of fact that kz2 didn't have much SOUL or CHARACTER like cod 4,uncharted 2,mgs4 or gears of war,hope they focus on characters too,if you look at it,completeing one shot one kill with mcmilan in cod 4 is much more intense and dramatic than completing the first mission with garza in kz2(although I liked garza)

So GG that's my advise for you guys and good luck :)

look at it again,see how it feels emotional and epic and how voice work was great

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

what do you guys think?? let's have a great discussion

Do:
Have high precision controls included at launch. I think only having the clunky controls turned a lot of people away from the game.

Think about expanding the size of a map and possibly add vehicles. There was a tank in single player and not in an area where you could really maneuver. Get that bad boy in multiplayer!

Give players the knife in multiplayer.

Include co-op single player campaign. God that would've been awesome for KZ2. Especially on the last stage. If you can't do it in single player, do like Insomniac did and create a seperate co-op campaign with side missions. This should be easy because the war is on a global scale. Plenty of room to show other conflicts.

Allow for customizable online chars. And if you incorporate some sort of prestige like feature, and give upgrades for armor, helmets, etc, I think you extend the life of your game immensely. Just think if you hit General, took prestige, and got some cool armor to wear.

Maybe include a few more large set piece type battles. KZ2 was about an invasion but it really felt like 20 guys invading on their own.

Have a collectors edition with behind the scenes stuff. If it's a franchise I love (like God of War and Killzone) I enjoy watching all the stuff that goes into making it.

Don't:

Change the art direction. Love the distinct look of the game.

bring back trophies for finding all the symbols or intel. God that got tedious.

Tone down Elite mode. I repeat, DON'T TONE DOWN ELITE MODE. I love having that trophy because it took a lot of friggin work to get it.

Bring back Rico. In fact, let some of us kill Rico before the game starts. Or maybe during every loading screen.

With Such a magnificent game as Killzone 2 was.....a sequel was imminent.

haven't you learned anything from the past huge releases?

Uncharted 2 and Modern Warfare 2 namely:

They specifically said no co-op because it would ruin the campaign experience. I'm sure there will be tons of new multiplayer modes that will keep you and your friends happy, so dont fret.

they have a great excuse not to put split screen co-op

they boast experience and graphics - both would be hindered by split-screen

GAME SET MATCH

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KZ3 is coming making 20 the year of the ps3

"DO: Have high precision controls included at launch. I think only having the clunky controls turned a lot of people away from the game."

DO: let everyone who wants that, go somewhere else. That's what the other 99% of FPS's are for! Also, it would hardly be fair to have half the people plying clunky controls and half with high precision!

You guys always do this, and then we end up with Resistance 2! Every FPS shouldn't be the same and I prefer I have a good game with one million people than the same old $hit with 5-10 million people. If I wanted COD:MW, I would have bought it!

Playing great original games > TEH SALES

Are you kidding me? The voice acting in that trailer sucks and the whole seen just seems off. KZ2 has better graphics, voice acting and flow.

trailer,everything seemed more serious

and I agree with gfx

They better not release this in 2010. Leave some room for Insomniac and Resistance 3. We're still playing Killzone 2.

As for the controls, they are right where they need to be right now. Only thing missing is... uhhh.... uhhh... ohh yea, more vehicles. Give us jeeps, tanks, and mechs in large multiplayer maps, I'd say about Phyrus's size or 1.5 it's size at max. More mission types, more unlockables, and require that badges be unlocked to go up levels instead of an indiscriminate score. Nothing worse than being on a team with a Tac dropping two spawn points near your own base when the objective is clear across the map.

Why?

If your friends are just watching you play, they'll never get to experience the game for themselves. So they most likely won't buy the game unless they were interested in buying it to begin with.

Even if you let them experience the game for themselves, they won't be having the fun factor of "OH HELL YES!! I just killed all three of you dumb@sses in a row! Booyah!"

That fun factor will get them to buy the game in a split second.

I don't care if the graphics are toned down in splitscreen mode, just give me it! >:D

seems to be the only FPS that generate any sort of excitement for me now, i'm really excited to see what GG are doing to push the series forward. Can't wait for E3 2010!! ^^

edit* i'll love to have splitscreen but it won't be a deal-breaker if it turns out without one. I'm accepting the fact that splitscreen gaming is going the way of the dodo nowadays, very few games this gen supports it.

PS2 had great RPGs as well

Well that's the beauty of still owning a retro console tho. Those who usually complain about emulation are just being blindly loyal to a company. Emulation is great for many reason, but if I still owned the console then I disagree nothing beats plugging it back in and going down a nostalgia trip