weighty feel makes multiplayer not so fun

is he the guy that killed Visari ?

I don't want CoD Controls in Killzone 3. If I want CoD Controls, I will buy a CoD game, and the motion control for the sniper was awesome.

Killzone 2 looks pretty cool - wish I had a PS3

honestly the length of the single player is fine, unless the article author was playing on easy or something

agreed, he seemed like the creator of all troubles.

I hate it when people get into

Its not long enough it sucks
It was too linear
It was too open
It was too long
I had texture pop in on stage 5, the second part where the elephant changed its color to pink

If a game is good a game is good. If a game is bad a game is bad. I didn't care for killzone 2 all that much but it wasn't a bad game.

Are you kidding? Sixaxis sniper rifle was AWESOME. Your aim was as steady as your hands, it rocked. And you could even use it subtly help your aiming if you had trouble being precise with the analog stick. I sure hope they keep that.

One thing that annoyed me was the long you think your PS3 is frozen because of it auto save. They need to fix this issue with there sequel. Hi-cups like this one really halter the immersion that the games tries to implement towards the player. Albeit it doesn't always happen when the game autosaves, it's annoying as hell when it does.

Longer, more fleshed out campaign
Better characters in general.. who cares about character development when a lot of the characters were quite dull..
Better writing & better voice acting
More weapons
Better controls
Online/Offline 2-4 player co-op
Party System
Matchmaking
True-skill ranking
More classes, more useful abilities

the online gameplay speed needs to be improved, honestly your in this big warzone and some guy throws a spawn grenade in the middle of a fight, and getting spawn killed continuously and having to wait 6 or 7 seconds each time slowed the gameplay down

I'm surprised he didn't mention Wand support. You'd think it was obvious. Imagine the precision.

i not agreed in this article in the controls... for me the controls is fine and most realist of fps in this days. and yes need more boss batles more hard.

i will love to see this game at the same time as Halo Reach to see Killzone 3 be killed and Sony giving up on Playstation LOL

I say nix the spawn grenades and bases and I'll be in. There was nothing more frustrating than being spawn camped by rpgs and nade launchers in your own base.

Also nix spot and mark...to cheap.

Ok here's my take.

Use the KILLZONE2 engine. Increase throughput.

Then make a completely new game in space, with lazers for weapons(great use of lighting fx), with worlds you can fly to in a space ship.

So you can have fighter on the ground and space battles.

Keep the controls, but have bigger maps.

Do everything Uncharted 2 did right.
But add story co-op on/offline
keep sixaxis sniping and increase the already awesome badge system.
No more top 1% trophies! I have it but a lot of my buddies hated it was such a drain on life to get.
and give us achievements to unlock cool stuff in the campaign mode.
Also a lot of times I thought there was going to be more diversity(like heading to the academy) I really want to have a driving or gunning mission in the gokarts. Killzone 2 is easily my FPS of the Year. Just need a little extra co tent and some more Co-op features - and KZ3 will crush the all other shooters that year.

I thought the weighty feel was great, I felt like I was actually controlling a person instead of controlling a floating gun.

Yea i know what you mean Call Of duty 4 Modern Warfare was short as Hell on the PS3.

Im a little sick of people going on about the controllers.Myself I use to play the cod series and switching to the killzones controllers where such a treat.I felt it was set up so much better.If you cant learn to adapt to new controller setups then you must suck at adapting to new games that come out.Because alot of games are different in many ways where you have to think in another way.So why the hassel about controllers who knows only the people who hate them can answere that.Other then that the article was great and made some valid points.Hope to see killzone3 at the end of next year.There are rumours but they are legit rumours this time so hopes can be higher this time.

What they need is to follow suit from Uncharted 2 and put the player into disastrous situations like having the ground tear up when hit with airstikes or shooting while riding on that "flying" vehicle, or shooting enemies from a helicopter and such and such.

Controls were fine, never had a problem with it.

Needs a better script/voice acting.

Enhanced gameplay mechanics (see content above)

and last but not least.... a game that DOES NOT cater to COD MW idiots.....

....if it wasn't a noname fps?

for ranked games, matchmaking is a must
these days all you see is radec games with rocket launchers enabled or good settings but empty servers.
having a server list is cool if there are official servers like in warhawk

and more gunz.

I too liked the use of the motion control when sniping, it's been one of the few really good uses of the sixaxis. As for the feel of the controls for me they were spot on I really wouldn't want to see them changed in Killzone 3 and more boss battles no thanks, the couple that were in there worked fine but wouldn't want to see many more.

And really set it apart from Halo and COD. The boss battles were good, but more would fine. The story and acting quality do need to be notched up though, especially now that i'm playing through Uncharted 2 (better than most hollywood movies).

More environmental interaction would be awesome as well. Killzone 2 was damn near perfect, so i can't wait for part 3.

OH WAIT...DO I HAVE A PS3? OH NO, IM STUPID! HOW EMBARRASS OF ME! YOU ARE RIGHT, PS3 FANBOYS!

it needs more maps at launch, 12 is minimum!, look at MW2 it will ship with 18 maps.

I really like bad weather or snowstorm levels. make a campaign where the harshness of the poles are featured. heavy snowstorms, wind kicking up the snow, ice and some winter vehicles. underground bases
(bases tunneled into the heavy packed snow)
maybe more of a spec-ops operation to destroy a weapons test facility or a bio-weapon lab.
also, the helgan and vektan soldiers wearing winter fatigues. with winter camo weapons.

it could be BIG if noobz notice realistic next generation gaming is here and stop going off and buying over hyped garbage like Halo and arcady COD MW with c0cky azz game devs......

they should stage the story in a more open and light environment.
Not so dark as what we saw in kz2. Take uncharted 2 as an example.

it came with cookies.

i used to love cod, still like the game but after playing killzone for months going back to the cod control system was not nice at all, much much too light

everyting he want is on killzone2.

and he want to take out things taht make kz what its.

i mean not everybody will like killzone
juts like not everybody will like many other games
each gama have their loyal fans.

and killzone 2 for me is the best of the best.

what killzone3 need is less hate from fanboys and the press

4 Player off-line split-screen mode with Bots(Er not xBots!!!) ;-D
Like 'TimeSplitters 2' I WOULD LOVE THAT!!! ;-P

If Naughty Dog(UC1-2), Santa Monica Studios(GoW1-3) or Incognito(Warhawk) made it.

GG lacks the imagination and basic gaming commonsense. They did a good job in improving KZ2 over KZ1 but that wasn't hard to do considering the major flaws with the original was graphic glitches, repetitive linear gameplay, and poor physics.

GG got two of the flaws sorted but not the linear gameplay. WTF. Where was their imagination -- Open world or RPGs are the future of shooters. Or at least bring in alot more epic battles like in Gears 2.

GG focus on quality graphics and streaming also meant no coop or split screen. Major mistake with the popularity of Coop and multiplayers on one console.

GG chose to add lag to the controls to give so-called weighty feel. Again, no immagination and instead alot of frustration for shooters fans wanting responsive/accurate controls. NB. They supposedly fixed it so it was a real problem.

The Spawn flare was a major mistake as it causes many games to turn into frag fests and campers. Again, no imagination. At least have spawn zones to fight for or a minigun & heavy armour pack for a mobile spawn point. Sheez.

No customization of characters and weaponry. A must for any shooter.

Small variety of weaponry. All SP weapons should have been made available for MP.

Idiotic ranking system -- initially too easy to get then after the update you fracken needed to play 24/7 for the next 6 months straight to get the final rank. No balance there at all. WTF.

No fully usable vehicles. The short vehicle levels in KZ2 are among the best in the entire game. Unfortunately because the Game engine is focused more towards graphics quality and streaming, fully usable vehicles in SP/MP were ruled out. Huge mistake. Vehicles would have added variety to the game. Intruders, Mechs, Tanks and jeeps on large maps would have produced spectacular for MP matches.

Crappy characters. Rico deserves a bullet in the head and Sev who? enough said.

So GG did improve KZ2 over KZ1 but they also made many fundamental errors which a better developer wouldn't have done.

The fact that they still haven't gotten rid of the spawn flare and replaced with spawn zones, properly redone the ranks, nor added all the SP weapons to MP, means GG lacks some basic commonsense.

How different KZ2 would have been had it been based on an improved Warhawk engine -- coop, split screen, fully usable vehicles. huge MP maps. Then we might have been able to relive the awesome 2005 E3 target trailer by shooting at the Helghast from a flying Intruder, land, jump off then go into battle.

Leave KZ3 to better developers and bring us a new IP GG.

KZ3 needs a longer single player campaign, more diverse levels and a bump in the fun department.Other than that I see another winner.Personally I would like to see the dev take on something completely different than jumping back into killzone so soon. Just release some decent dlc in the meantime.Just my opinion.

the sniper rifle motion control is one of the best uses of sixaxis in this generation. you can aim with more precision. realistic.
Guerrilla don't drop sixaxis sniper rifle for the next killzone3...genial!

I'll buy this game without question if it's confirmed that Rico will die a slow and painful death, while the rest of the squad lol @ him.

they want to have longer length in running? umm.. the game does have longer length in running.. it's just that the running isn't super speed like other games..

the motion controls I didn't mind but they can be creative with it like the sniper rifle..

Controls, they need to smooth it up, I like the whole idea of "heavy" or "grounded" feel in the game, that feeling that you're really inside the game as a soldier instead of a running floating gun.

Character development and story does need refinement..

the Campaign length is just alright but needs more epic set pieces..

All I hope for in Killzone 3, is that it remains KILLZONE and doesn't pull a Resistance 2.

[by trying to be like more successful shooters]

i played this gen bar none. The only think i didn't like was the story script. I love KZ2 because its the most intense war game i have ever played. Those who have beaten it on elite knows what i am talking about. I also love the fact that you need skills to play it in that it makes it more realistc and fun to play unlike other FPS.

Bring on KZ3 GG. Day one again.

KZ2, by virtue of how polarizing it is, must be considered an important game. I enjoyed the SP, but have not played multi-mode. One gripe/pet peeve I have with the whole controller debate is the "realistic" description. Does it have to be COD/MW? Certainly not, nor should we want to be.
But - the same "reality-based-controller -physics" or HEFT is present when using the lightest or the heaviest weapon. That isn't very realistic.
Contextually, wouldn't adrenaline or fatigue affect the HEFT of a weapon (depending on the circumstance)? This would mean, at varying times, the weapons would either feel lighter or heavier. This would be consistent with a reality based user experience.
You cannot run or jump like a meta-human (armor enhanced or otherwise), so why wouldn't adrenaline and fatigue (etc.) be incorporated to actually achieve a bit more realism?
Honestly, and this is only my opinion, I think if the control layout/style was used on an Xbox 360 title, and was not a KZ2 exclusive, many of the same PS3-only, hardcore crowd lauding it as realistic (for KZ2) would be tripping over themselves to criticize it.
That being said, the controls are fine as is; and if it allows an awkward, 14 year old kid to feel "hardcore" then so be it.
Nonetheless, to call the experience "realistic" requires an admirable amount of selective imagination. Translation, if it walks like a fanboy, and talks like a fanboy - it is most likely a fanboy.

They only thing I want them to do to make KZ3 a better game is add more playable characters in the single player campaign and make them play differently (like KZ1), Re-buff most off the weapons so they're as strong as in KZ1, and make the story better.

I enjoyed 2 alot. For KZ3 the only request I would have for GG would be to make voice acting more of an priority. The game looked brilliant. Weapons were a dream to shoot and they really felt powerful when fired, even the damn pistol rocked.

The voice acting was my only gripe. The Helghast Voice work was tight and worked very well but the ISA stuff made me cringe at times. So here we have this Solid and Beastly Graphics FPS with Voice acting that really didnt take itself as seriously as the rest of the game.

Enemy A.I. was cool but my team mates could use a little bit more upstairs. Fighting Radec along side Rico made me wish that he wasnt there. I know he's mostly in that scene for the sake of the story but I wish they would have a way to get around it.

EASY things to fix for KZ3. GO GG!

but but but Ps3 dont sell games it sell blu rays ... Lol

KZ2 single player had pretty much everything i would want from a single player shooter. I would take some extra length though to add a little value. Coop would be amazing. I never understood why they didnt atleast do online co-op. Seems like they planned on it by the way you were ALWAYS with atleast one other person.

BUT where they REALLY need to focus their time is an overhaul of their multiplayer system. KZ2 online had a lot of woderful ideas, but you can tell they didnt play test it enough, and i don't think beta testers were giving them the info they needed to hear. 16 vs 16 didnt work on ANY of those maps. even the ONE big map it doesnt matter cause both teams throw spawns next to the objective and its a cluster ****.

there was just no order to any of it. I put a lot of time into it indeed, (i still have 100% of trophies including add-ons) but now i can't play it period cause i realize how much of a mess it is.

My advice to them would be to start hiring some experts with multiplayer modes and really get a well thought out balanced multiplayer mode going. Everyone knows nothing gives a great game longevity like a great multiplayer mode.

I Really hope KZ3 will be the great online game that everyone expected KZ2 to be.

Killzone 3 needs a boss battle against Rico, I'd pay 60 yo-yo's just to shoot that F;$k wit in the face.

Killzone characters were less memorable than those in Gears2, but the story was better in my opinion. Not to say there wasn't a story in Gears(the ending sucked though), but it was cartoony. Comic books today have more edge, unless it is written by Jeph Loeb (cough*hack*cough).

Killzone 2 painted a bleaker story than the original, killing off Jan Templar and demonizing Rico. With Sev's imminent demise coming at the end of the game, I'd say Killzone paints a more realistic, daunting picture of war - winning a battle doesn't mean success. I hope we have new characters in the next Killzone. Maybe we play as Helghast, hmm?

Still both are WONDERFULLY ENJOYABLE!!!

I'd like to see absolutely huge maps with 32 vs 32, Mechs & tanks. That would make me happy.

I really enjoyed killzone for what it offered because it was different. However, there are a few changes that I would like to see happen.

Online-I hate to say it, I am tired of people constantly talking about COD style controls. Instead, I would rather see them steal/borrow the online system from COD. I want a system of multiple ranks and prestige levels. When the game was released, there was nothing else to do within a week because the online lacked a great ranking system.

Second, I would like to see some kind of kill streak reward system. Imagine some of the crazy things that could be used in Killzone. Too many battles online were bottlenecks, people did not care about staying alive.

Of course, I would like to see a longer single player campaign. If Uncharted can do it, I know Guerilla can do it too.

Last, I want MORE GUNS!

They get rid of the class structure. While yes it does feel alright sometimes, the fact that both teams with throw respawns right on top of one another is the reason I no longer play this game. It just became less and less fun the more I played. Respawn, rocket, dead. Respawn, grenade, dead. It took absolutely no skill at all. I wish it would be a lot more tactical but it seems whoever is able to get respawn faster and shoot a rocket at the ground will win. I much prefer Uncharted 2 multiplayer over this. I was so excited for this game but having the ability to plant respawns where ever you like ruined this game for me. I loved the graphics, but even those cant keep me playing this game.

I hated the sudden stops in the game where it saved. This became annoying and slowed down the gameplay drammatically all the time.

I want more scale in Killzone 3.

Tbh whilst I care about the main sory I dont care who I play as. They should do what COD4 did so you do some missions as people like KZ2 doidn the specialist stuff.

But I really want some misions to just be huge firefights where you just need topush hundreds of enemies back. That would be cool.

MORE ADVERTISING!!!!!!
*KZ2 still needs more advertising and bundles since PS3 is $299*

Killzone again pls 🥺

Gratz Guerilla, amazing Studio and engine, love Decima!

I was never a huge fan of Killzone, but thoroughly enjoy Horizon. Guerrilla are superb developer and easily up there with the best of the best.

Need a killzone 2 remake from the ground up.

One of the most creative studios out. I hope they keep it up.

Great studio, loved the Killzone series, I wish they would do a remake of the first three games. Horizon is a real step up and truly put Guerrilla Games on the map.

Too bad I never got a chance to play Shellshock: Nam’67 would have loved to try that game out back in the days to see what were their beginnings.

Bring back killzone (maybe in 3rd person perspective)

It would fantastic to see what they could do in Killzone after the lessons learned through Horizon.

Or heck, give us even a short linear FPS from the people who designed Cauldron THETA in the Burning Shores expansion. Even just flying into it (after gliding around and finding its opening amongst the lava and Sunwings perched around it, with other bigger machines just along the path toward it) was an incredible experience.

Great work until now. Keep on this path

Hope they get the opportunity to create a new IP this gen as well.

Forbidden West is awesome, It’s pretty damn big compared to Zero Dawn and it takes a little while to get your skills up and get the equipment you need to fully explore the game (not going to spoil it) but once you do those things and start fighting the big ass machines it really is amazing. Some cool side quests to where you hold the fate of peoples lives by your choice and the cauldrons look amazing. Lots of skills , combos, special moves and add ons for your weapons so you can approach fights many ways. Looking forward to the name game but I wonder how/if Silas will be a part of it or not ? Sad he’s gone.

Killzone games weren’t the best shooters but damn did they look purty!!!!

Killzone 2 remade with the multiplayer

20 years of mid-tier games and they are trending down.

I'm hyped for whenever Horizon 3 releases but Killzone 1 needs a remake BAD and 2 & 3 need remasters. Criminal those games are stuck on PS3.

Hold up

Horizon: Zero Dawn sold 24.3 million
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild sold 29.81 million

With the way journalists have been consistently saying BotW overshadowed Horizon you’d think the gap between an entry in a new IP and a longrunning one would be bigger Even if you want to include however much the Wii U version of BotW did, both series still did impressive numbers

I never want to hear that Horizon is an overlooked franchise ever again

i really loved the atmosphere and idea of killzone. i hope they revisit it at some point because it always had so much potential.

Bring Back Killzone please or at least a KZ2 remake with MP.

Beautiful. Might try it out then. Is the emulator capable of 3D? Playing this in 3D with the Move gun controller was amazing when it came out. I was surprised they got it to run so well in 3D, too, after Resistance 3's 3D had such a low frame rate. I can still play it on my PS3, but if this runs better, I'm down.

Controversial opinion here, but this is my favorite campaign in the series.

FPS, the way it's meant to be played, with a mouse and keyboard of course 😁I have the ISO, easy to get, now to set it up and see.