then try and release a bluray drive. Especially considering the drive would be movie based only. Come to think of it, I am surprised MS did not take their surpluss of 20gb hdd and make them standard on even the arcade sku. Perhaps there werent as many as I am thinking.

Same goes for the HDDVD drives. Essentially they are the same mount as the internal dvd drive of the 360. Expensive to swap them out from a user base point of view but not unlikely to have been done. Considering that sometime, a revision to hardware can yield improvements be it small ones or large ones. In most respects, the early adopters tend to offload their former purchase in favor of the newer. Provided they are still able to utilize everything else they purchased for it.

For example, when the psp 2000 was announced to have double the internal memory to the 1000, there wasnt much of a fuss. In fact the doubling of the memory served to benefit the new purchasers but it didnt hamper game development because both still played the same games. If MS would have upgraded the 360 to use hddvd drives instead, chances are there would have been some uproar at first. Once the old got syphoned out and more newer units purchased people would eventually see only the new and progress from there.

It has happened in every console generation. A change made at some stage of the console lifecycle can lead to increased sales of newer units. Even to those who had previously purchased the early release. 20mil+ is a tough amount to sway if that were to have happened. Although, a trade in program or some type of upgrade program could have been implemented to take care of those with older hardware.

Oh well. No sense in dwelling on what could have been. Looking to the future it seems obvious MS would try not to make the same mistake twice.

The xbots need Blu-Ray because they have no games.

lol I never thought I would type that

This article says nothing about the 360 needing a Blu-Ray. It suggests that Microsoft´s next console should definitely consider including one. Makes sense.

1080p HD streaming is amazing.

Got in the live preview yesterday :D

I don't need Blu Ray because I'm not a big movie man and rather stream once than purchase to never watch again.

Why not. I think the next xbox should definitely have a bluray drive!

The XBOX needs blu IT DOESN'T MATTER if the XBOX needs blu-ray.

i would love for the next console to get a blu-ray rom.

They can't keep on using DVDs with the next Xbox...

The Ps3 needs games

If you want blu-ray....get a PS3.

Eventually gamers will have both.

i phailled too see how space makes things better.

The failbox is last gen hardware. It's in competition with the Wii and PS2, not the PS3.

I think the next Xbox console will probably have a standard Blu-Ray drive or some comparable drive that will read very large disc formats. I think Sony's next console will read 100 to 200GB discs, and hopefully MS will have enough foresight to see that and will also provide a comparable drive.

blu-ray is guaranteed to be on the next xbox next gen

More space equals better quality. PS3 doesn't have compressed audio/video.

But the 360 doesn't have Cell Power and you can already see the limits of the 360 hardware show.

Can't live on Unreal Engines forever Xbox. Get with the times or make like the shepard and get the flock out of here!

I think it will be better for them if they integrated it in their new xbox720 console

needs a god dame miracle, not a blu-ray add on

Because Blu-Ray is owned by Sony

That's why I can't see it being on the 360 and then why would we need a Ps3.

AND I AM NOT A FANBOY

Even if they get Blu Ray, they can't use it for games. It'll alienate those who don't have it. Maybe next gen.

I would agree that the xbox 360 needs a blu-ray player if:

- Every PS3 game is AAA (because uhh... blu-ray is the reason why games are AAA; it has nothing to do with the developers and the game concept at all).

- The most popular games (measure by sale volume) weren't 3rd party games (Fallout, Bioshock, Call of duty, etc) or on the xbox 360 (Gears, Mass Effect, Halo OSDT, etc) and were all on blu-ray.

- The xbox 360 wouldn't be a 4 years old console (average game console generation is 5 years) and even without blu-ray still sold more consoles.

- blu-ray player on the PS3 wouldn't be such a slow @$$ drive; that wouldn't need mandatory install for some many games to compensate.

- If digital distribution such as Netflix, and soon instant HD wouldn't be a reality for me.

It's impossible for the PS3 to reach the xbox 360 at least in the US. The largest single region of the game industry where Sony dominated now is lost.

The fact that the PS3 is currently on dead last 3rd place tell you what real gamers think about blu-ray. Hell not even PC gamers care about blu-ray... doesn't that tell you something that PC games have not even start to ship on blu-ray?

Only sony leg humpers care about blu-ray.

I agree its not a big deal, MS should just release one to please fans who might want it, and if they dont no big deal, just have it as an option, it cant hurt

This sorta reminds me of the PS one era. The N64 had a similar achilles heel when it came to the game Cartridge. Developers were literally struggling to squeeze big games onto that small cartridge; they didn't come out on multiple cartridges, but games like Final Fantasy VII ended up being a PlayStation exclusive as a result for "not enough space".

Like the N64, it won't kill the 360, but making bigger games is gonna get harder from here on out.

I suppose they could always go the Nintendo route and just use a generic optical disk for their next-gen format. This would avoid licencing fees to the blu-ray association, and namely, Sony; that is, if paying Sony bothers them that much. Nintendo has been using this strategy since the Gamecube.

Nothing needs blu ray, because bluray isn't doing anything that hasn't been done before. It doesn't make anything better, and all it does it take up more space for the same content.

Maybe if it had blu ray or even HD-DVD(remember that) built in, then a game like Gears of War 2 wouldn't have so many compressed videos for its cutscenes. Real-time cutscenes did look good though.

When will people learn that Sony does not own Blu-Ray. But some of the software used with the Blu-Ray drive is owned by MS.

It's quite funny when you get told to change the disc to go through a door in MGS4, and Snake's all like "what the hell are you talking about?" and then Otacon says "Oh, wait, this is the PS3... never mind"

Now that Jim Ryan is gone just need to remove Herman Hulst from his position! And maybe give Shuhei the position he deserved.

This gen hasn't been the best for games, last gen consoles are still out there and now there's been talk of the PS6 and Xbox Two for a year or so. Many games this gen will be ported to next gen and the cycle will continue. The re-release of the Neo Geo AES+, games on cartridge for £70 ($95), gaming is going back in time. Gaming has gone pricing mad with the high cost of games, consoles and controllers. The men and women at the top are clueless.

It’s always interesting to hear behind-the-scenes stories like this, especially involving veterans like Shuhei Yoshida and leadership figures like Jim Ryan. That said, there are usually multiple sides to decisions at that level. It could be less about not “listening” and more about differences in long-term vision for PlayStation. Yoshida played a huge role in shaping the brand, so whatever the reason, his impact is undeniable.

If true, and I'm inclined to believe it is, it goes to show that Sony lost their way when they became more western/didn't respect the PlayStation origin story. Andrew House and Jack Tretton did great work, but they also didn't try to fundamentally change the PlayStation DNA. Ryan oversaw the death of Japan Studio and a live service direction.

I already figured this, good lord imagine if Shuhei took over instead, would've been a platinum era 😩

I miss the first three generations of PlayStation. The way they turned PS3 around, we knew they meant business. We were all worried for a bit there around launch. Eventually from 2008 they started shifting slowly. But since Yoshida was fired, it's never been the same. Still enjoy my PS5 daily. I got a backlog dating back to PS2 lol So I'm fine but new games aren't as appealing anymore.

It seems like we were thrown on to the worst timeline possible where everything is too expensive and the wrong people were put in positions that makes the world a shitty place. We could have had Shu as the head of PS but we got the shitty alternative. Same goes for everyone in power around the world. Doesn’t matter the company or country the majority of us got the shitty picks and the world is declining like never before. I do think PS can come out of this because of their studios, talent and IP but they need someone more in touch with gamers leading things like Shu was. They’re still the best place for console gaming imo but it could be much better than it is especially without the massive live service failures. The rest of the world I have a lot less hope for right now. Hopefully the pendulum swings back towards the good ole days but I’m preparing for the worst.

There goes illuminati distraction story

So now there's certifiable proof that Ryan was in fact "fired", as opposed to when it was first announced that he "retired", in order to save face.

There's another guy who recently "retired" as CEO of another large gaming company, after doing a dismantling job as lead for well over a decade.

seems legit, the business man, fires the one who has ideas to move the business forward.

Jim Ryan is the reason why we are entering year 6 since the PS5 launch and many of us don't feel like the PS5 has gotten started as yet.

I hope going forward, we will see a return to form.