You can't stop greatness.

The only winners this Gen are those who are true gamers and dont spout rubbish like comment number one, each console has their merits and to dismiss a console is just missing out on some brilliant games. A winner is not determined by the number of sales but the joy that console brings to the person who owns it, i myself own both a ps3 and x360 and both get equal amount of love and give me equal amounts of fun in return

of course they can. it's just going to take a few years to catch up. but ms will release their next console just before they do and declare this gen over and themselfs the winnner. even though sony will not release their console for a year year and a half later. and then it can start all over again CAN'T WAIT.

now i'm only saying that cause i think sony is gonna catch ms not nintendo.

nintendo won this gen. but i don't really consider them a next gen console so in my eyes it's ms and sony.

so my first statement holds true to those standards.

Ok i'll say it straight.

UNCHARTED 2 is the best looking game i've ever seen on any system.

Unless you've played it, you would not know how far this game is pushing everything.

Just Awesome.

It looks better then Killzone2.

I just don't think the 360 has the staying power, tech-wise, to last as long or outlast the PS3 and THAT is why the PS3 will lead in the end.

I think for the 360 to remain ahead there will need to be price cuts across ALL hardware peripherals and accessories as well as services, e.g Live subscriptions and Netflix. Not all at once, but for the remainder of this generation for Micro to maintain a dominant position regarding market share (call the Wii a competitor all you want, but the audiences are very different in my opinion).

-discs are going to start piling up
-how long will people stand paying for overpriced HDDs and accessories (which Micro can solve by just including the freaking things, cheapskates)

I just think steps need to be taken beyond the traditional price cut and Natal.

i'm not sure y people are hating on comment 1. thats what this whole article is talking about.

he gave his believe and backed it up with what he believes. it's a debate. if people think otherwise speak up.

i agree with him. but i also don't think the xbox is complete trash either. i like live i think it's a great service i think it should be free but whatever. i just don't like ms and i don't like how they don't care about gamers. i don't like how they run their company.

Let say each console estimate sell roughly 10mil unit a year.
Unless they last 10 years or they won't reach 100mil unit sold.

It will be a far cry.

Between the ps3 and 360 its going to be close, if sony play their cards right then the ps3 should come out on top, t the end of the day they have the superior console and more developers to push out games.

But they wont get ahead of the wii, theyve gone way too far ahead.

I don't think so...my azz :P

sony are too powerful i love there exclusives over any platform

xbox dose not focus on games
it focus on sky twitter and facebook
the games are just a bonus

Once Nintendo makes a Wii HD, it will jumpstart the PS3's market value and lifespan, due to the advent of the Playstation Motion Controllers.

Any non-Nintendo made game would be available for both, and by then I'll assume both would be priced the same or probably much lower for the PS3, due to it's being out already (production cost would be lower). Unless Nintendo has Blu-ray on their Wii HD and has more power than the PS3, the same argument now, will hold true for then, which console offers more value for roughly the same amount of money? It's the PS3.

Because of this the PS3 would be out in the market, far longer than its current competitors. It may not seem likely now, but always remember that this is a marathon and not a sprint, The PS3 IMO would win due to its longevity.

If you disagree please leave a comment.

blah blah blah
there is no war, there is no winner
just make great games sony and im happy.

Daaamn Billy (Gates)
2 years ago
you was tha man
Silly
WTF happened to you? (360)

S (Sony)
Got the sickest vendetta
now that they savin folks chedda
MS be hatin on PS3
but they cant do betta

UnchAAArted2 look goooood
So carry Halo out
on a stretcher

You wanna jump on my Blu Ray tech
B!tc# pay me
I'll let cha

The 360 peaked last year and will most likely be riding the rest of this gen on the downhill slope.

The recent price cuts didn't help and neither will Natal. It's niche. The PS Eye is proof of that. I honestly can't see how the 360 can regain it's former self.

The irony of it all is that Halo is the best thing to happen for the 360 but it's also what's slowly killing it. No matter how hard Microsoft tries to appeal to everyone, it will forever be known as the Halo box, or a shooter box (or RROD box).

They've gotten people used to the idea of paying for LIVE which helps bring in revenue. I imagine their biggest priority right now is fee based services, add-on accessories and the annual Halo game.

The only way the ps3 might catch up is when the next Xbox comes out and people start to buy that one. Until than the ps3 will not catch up.

Selling more consoles? Selling more games? Having the loudest internet fanboys? A cult following? What?

Consoles. Wii says hello

Games. Wii says hello. Constant million + sellers. How in the hell does cooking mama, wii fit, outsell Halo, Killzone, Ratchet?

Internet fanboys. Might win at that but the Microsoft camp is running kneck and kneck right now. Why aren't wii fanboys so obtrusive? Are there any wii fanboys?

All consoles are doing very well and for the first time we have 3 LEGITIMATE CONTENDERS. People should be happy. They all are providing great games for every type of person. The devs dont buy into this fanboy b/s they just go out and make the best game they can. But great games dont sell like they should because people are so concerned about what console it is/isn't on instead of focusing on the game. We do have gems that have done pretty good (Uncharted 2 the most recent) but more games should be doing these numbers.

I know most of you RABID fanboys represent a small percentage of us gamers but you are the most vocal. Open your eyes and see a good game/console for what it is. A good game/console.

I play Halo (not that much). I play on PC (loves sins of a solar empire). I play Uncharted. I play God of War. I play Forza. I play Gran Turismo. I play Gears of War. I play Resistance. I play Final Fantasy. I play Grand Theft Auto. I play Heavenly Sword. I play Splinter Cell. I play Ninja Gaiden. I play Rag Doll Kungfu.

I PLAY GAMES!!!!!!!!! Not with these companies d1cks!!!!

Of course it will. What a stupid question. The PS3 will completely dominate both the 360 and the Wii for the rest of this gen. All games on the PS3 will be the best games ever made. The PS3 motion controller will be extremely revolutionary while Natal...well, Natal shouldn't even be mentioned. Sony are amazing in everything they do and Microsoft are evil and worship Satan and always fail. Sony have already won.

You buy the console that has the games you want to play. If you make enough money, you can buy them all. But unless your unemployed, who has that much time?

Maybe Sony can't win the console war, but If Sony sell 100m PS3 you think they will care about being first, guys the 10 life cycle is real and is something that the others consoles don't have

Sony got the future locked for him

.Receive a % for every Blu-Ray Disc sold and Blu-Ray is the standard now or in the next year, It doesn't matter because is the Only Media Format

.Cell is here to stay, 3 Big Companies join to create a Powerful Microprocessor and Sony put in the PS3, again to become a standard, next Gen we'll see a CELL2 in the PS4 and Toshiba and Sony will put this Microprocessor in every Laptop-notebook-netbook or whatever computer related and IBM making hardware based on CELL

.Story will repeat itself like with PS2, and you can deny it, look at the PS2, in this time 3 years after the release of the 3 new consoles, still selling

.By making a motion controller Sony will make it an standard like always and the next gen I'll be as normal as the Dualshock, so no more innovative motion controllers

wii sold 50m, but you have to think what is gonna happen next gen and the same goes for M$

This points are important too:

.N will pay royalties to Sony for Blu-Ray next gen or will keep the DVD again
.N will ask to IBM for a Microprocessor like always but what, another less power Microprocessor like the "Broadway" to make a casual console like this gen or will going to fight for HD gamers
And the same goes for M$ but in a worst way because M$ is fighting for real gamers right now and next gen will be the same so they not going to downgrade a new console if they want gamers

You have to think from a Company point of view, not as a fanboy and you'll see who is wining with the best cards

Nothing has been as clear cut and obvious this generation. There have been lots of surprises up to this point and I'm not going out on a limb and making any bold predictions.

survey says...no psx is the best they ever had.

"This going to go down as the most successful generation in history."

you joking right? you must have missed the 90's

"It has no real traction with casual gamers, and, as I wrote about previously, Natal isn't going to have quite the marketing splash that Microsoft is hoping for. "
Amen to that.

And I agree with the first posts here about graphical power.

or anything to do with cryengine anything in these conversations? by doing so they dont know it but they literally prove that crysis and any of the engines in cryteks world arent the best looking of anything and pc doesnt have these "superior" graphics that they always have babbled about since the year 2006

Perhaps they make us believe they won.

to me, this makes the article an epic fail, didnt even click the link so dont flame me on not reading the article...it sold a million in 3 weeks...why wouldnt it ascend? as for the generation..the 360 will not stop selling and the wii will continue to sprint lap around everything, and everyone must get to DSs..so as for winning the generation, unless they can hit a million a week, i dont think it will happen...and if you disagree, then you are a retard

News flash! The Wii is 100 times less of a video game / entertainment console then the PS3. Why these two are ever in the same conversation is a beyond me. Don't bring a Honda to a Ferrari meet. Yes, they are both still cars at the end of the day. But I think we all get the picture here and yes I own two Wii systems and two PS3 systems. The Xbox, it's reliability is killing itself all on it's own. Well, the no games lately doesn't help either. That and no standard Wi-Fi and pay to play, a DVD still, etc.

With Sony, they have the worlds top 2 best selling consoles of all time already. So, they know the game better than anyone. It's just a matter of time in this economy.

YES. :)

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if every ps2 owner went and bought a ps3 in one day the ps3 would be so far ahead of wii and ds if ds and wii had an electron microscope the wouldnt be able to see the exhause coming out of ps3s exhause pipe, its unlikely that can happen in one day, but the time is still coming that all ps2 owners will have a ps3, in addition to the ps3 owners that have one now, and ps3 still hasnt cossed a price limit of 250, wii has get it, wii started at a price limit still lower than ps3s current price, and still is only selling not even 100,000 more than ps3, ps3 was dominating wii till they cut their price to 200 bucks, if ps3 cuts their price to 250 wii is finished, nintendo was scared and cut the price cause ps3 was dominating it, now all you wack nintendo fans want to talk crap like wii is the leader for to stay but still forget that almost 150 ps2 owners still can buy a ps3, wii would NEVER catch up to that ps3 would in time exceed 200 million sold, ps3 has already won the generation with ps2 since its still alive

Microsoft has America won. But on the World Wide scale Sony will beat Microsoft easily

TREY 4 LIFE

NOW IF YA SMELL WHAT THE ROCK IS COOKING

I don't give a damn about console sales so long as Sony keeps coming out with great games.

"SONY PS3 RULEZ!!" "PS3 FTW!!!!" "360 sucks!!" there! you geeks happy! that's what you want to hear right?!! Fu##, you nerds suck A$$.

Sony is the obvious choice for entertainment. However, the other "so-called" next gen game platforms are great as well. People say that there are a lot of Sony "Trolls" and "Fanboys"...but there are a lot of media haters...who stir the pot also. I won't make excuses for hating, just making sure people understand that TONYWOOD24 does not hate the 360..i hate Microsoft!

MS has done nothing but destroy the games industry, and everybody knows this to be true. I don't care who these guys have in their pockets, EVERYONE can clearly see the better products. Halo is fun (Although a bit over done at this point), but it's not a system seller for me. I am not trying to pay MS for Windows, and THEN...pay them more for Xbox live!! Now, If that makes me a "troll" then so be it. NPD, G4TV, IGN, Gamespot, Michael Pacther, and VGChartz, have all ran their mouths about how much the PS3 sucked and all the trouble that Sony was suppose to be in...WHAT DO YOU KNOW, NPD POST THE SALE CHARTS WITH THEIR FLAGS SET AT HALF MASS, DIDN'T THEY? (LOL)

MS is making their money, but sooner than later...people are going to see through the $60 Halo and GTA expansions and the whole "it's not about graphics...it's about gameplay", but then brag about how great looking the GT "ripoff" Forza 3 racing game is. The only great exclusives for MS Xbox 360 are Halo, GTA DLC, and Gears of War 1. (Part 2 was trash....lag, glitches, ect.) Sony PS3 is selling better, because the price is right...PERIOD! PS3 or 360 for $300? I DON'T KNOW...LET ME THINK ABOUT IT??! Do I want to spend the same amount on a Ford Focus or a Ford Mustang?

I'm not a sheep...and I encourge every gamer to buy and enjoy what you want. However, don't let people, salesmen/women, or the "so-called" experts try to sell you on lies and player hating!! You people do know that most review experts don't even play these games right? Also, half of the mis-informed PS3 haters (At Gamestop and Best Buy) don't even have a PS3, or thinks that the only game out there is Halo. Halo is great, but I need variety..something that Sony providing me.

Nintendo had already had several runs at testing ideas that they would use in the Wii so they may have taken an educated guess that it would be somnewhat bad luck to only have the sales figures that the Gamecube had.

First of all, they used the Gamecube to test peripherals like the Donkey Konga bongos. I don't think that it was a given how popular this kind of social gaming would be on the Wii, as it had only really last been seen on the Dreamcast with peripherals like the Samba de amigo maracas, a console with disappointing sales given how many innovative features and games it had. Although Donkey Konga Jungle Beat in particular got good reviews, I think that the hand soreness caused by clapping may have put a bit of ceiling on the sales.

I think that arguably one of the genesises of the Wii in retrospect was the success of the Gameboy game Made in Wario, a game that had short challenges and simplistic graphics. It was then ported to the Gamecube with practically the same graphics, an early indication that Nintendo thought that a deliberate style statement of making a retro looking game could sell. Viewtiful Joe, although made by Capcom and featuring some actually great 2.5D graphics, suggested this as well in its throwback to the 16 bit days appearance.

The penultimate step on the way to the Wii was the DS - a handheld that favoured control method over graphics.

But Nintendo knew that their handhelds always stood a good chance of beating the competition, regardless of the graphical capabilities (The Lynx versus Game Gear versus Game Boy for example), because of their range of games. They saw Sony do exactly the same with the PS1 and PS2 and then, belatedly, and arguably threatening some of the epicness that had been seen on the N64 and Gamecube, they transported their handheld philosophy to their main console and entered a new golden age - sales wise. They helped this massively by identifying the markets that they wanted to attract to gaming - many of the Nintendo faithful would buy one regardless (and not without good reason given the likes of Super Mario Galaxy) but they also attracted gamers who hadn't played a game since Pacman, who had so many other complicated distractions in life, including their own children, that it would take something incredibly simple to make them comfortable with returning to gaming again- and something that they could share with their children rather than it putting up a barrier between them.
Although it does genuinely tap in to modern concerns e.g. weight gain, the Wii is also a retro experience.

In conclusion, it doesn;t take much of a risk to say that I think that the Wii will win, which is an amazing sales turnaround for Nintendo since the last generation. That shouldn't make anyone think that the Gamecube wasn't worth buying though - far from it at the price - it just didn't have anywhere near enough good third party games (and a few underwhelming first party ones that seemed to be coasting on the N64's coat-tails) and the ones that it did have were often multiformat and tended to look a bit better on the Xbox.

I think that the PS3 has some holes in the kind of quirky games that make a console memorable for more than its own lifespan. However, it probably still stands a good chance of coming second, not leats because of how popular the PS2 was- all those Japanese buyers for a start didn't go out and buy an Xbox 360 instead.

Natal will either totally screw the 360 this generation or raise it past the Wii. No in-between.

I think Microsoft is putting too much stock in Natal. Sony has a more realistic vision for their motion controller. I don't think they plan to upset the Wii, just exist along side.

if GTA5 is excluseive thats pretty big and if FF13V is something great then that could be big god of war3 with the right adds a god of war3 red bundle a GT5 blue bundle something cann happen if sonys smart about it

Sony won when Killzone 2 came out. Sony won when ever Micro rushed a 54% fail box knowonly as the xbox46%. Sony won when micro came out with pay as you play motto for $50/year. Sony won when micro decided to add a detatchable blu ray drive to the xbox46%.

Damn bots when will you break, your wallet is from all the accesories, your box is from the 5th RRoD. I mean you all wanna support this....Bots?

It's already been calculated that in order for sony to win this gen they would have to sell at a rate of 500,000 units monthly for the next 36 or so just to catch up to the 360. I don't know if these numbers are 100% correct but if anyone knows which article i am talking about maybe they can post it. And that is taking into account that the 360 completely stops selling. Don't see how that could happen but i guess we shouldn't say never.

As far as the ps4 goes i just don't see that happening. Sony is still losing money on every ps3 slim sold and are just starting to see their sales rise. MS has already made deals with ATI and AMD for their next gen graphics card just to prove that they are in the works for what is probably the 720. I still think the ps3 will sell in great numbers in the long run but i don't see it catching up to the 360 in this gen if its considered over in the next couple of years when the 720 comes out.

" - why do pc fans have to always throw something crysis and
or anything to do with cryengine anything in these conversations? by doing so they dont know it but they literally prove that crysis and any of the engines in cryteks world arent the best looking of anything and pc doesnt have these "superior" graphics that they always have babbled about since the year 2006 ."

You mean kinda like how ps3 fans always bring up UC 2 in every argument every time a third party game looks better on xbox? You obviously havent played crysis on very high settings but if you ever manage to own a rig that can handle it you would be wowed by it. UC 2 is another looker but it didn't have the wow factor that crysis made on me when i first played it. Crysis does look better than UC 2 but at an expensive price.

Now that Jim Ryan is gone just need to remove Herman Hulst from his position! And maybe give Shuhei the position he deserved.

This gen hasn't been the best for games, last gen consoles are still out there and now there's been talk of the PS6 and Xbox Two for a year or so. Many games this gen will be ported to next gen and the cycle will continue. The re-release of the Neo Geo AES+, games on cartridge for £70 ($95), gaming is going back in time. Gaming has gone pricing mad with the high cost of games, consoles and controllers. The men and women at the top are clueless.

It’s always interesting to hear behind-the-scenes stories like this, especially involving veterans like Shuhei Yoshida and leadership figures like Jim Ryan. That said, there are usually multiple sides to decisions at that level. It could be less about not “listening” and more about differences in long-term vision for PlayStation. Yoshida played a huge role in shaping the brand, so whatever the reason, his impact is undeniable.

If true, and I'm inclined to believe it is, it goes to show that Sony lost their way when they became more western/didn't respect the PlayStation origin story. Andrew House and Jack Tretton did great work, but they also didn't try to fundamentally change the PlayStation DNA. Ryan oversaw the death of Japan Studio and a live service direction.

I already figured this, good lord imagine if Shuhei took over instead, would've been a platinum era 😩

I miss the first three generations of PlayStation. The way they turned PS3 around, we knew they meant business. We were all worried for a bit there around launch. Eventually from 2008 they started shifting slowly. But since Yoshida was fired, it's never been the same. Still enjoy my PS5 daily. I got a backlog dating back to PS2 lol So I'm fine but new games aren't as appealing anymore.

It seems like we were thrown on to the worst timeline possible where everything is too expensive and the wrong people were put in positions that makes the world a shitty place. We could have had Shu as the head of PS but we got the shitty alternative. Same goes for everyone in power around the world. Doesn’t matter the company or country the majority of us got the shitty picks and the world is declining like never before. I do think PS can come out of this because of their studios, talent and IP but they need someone more in touch with gamers leading things like Shu was. They’re still the best place for console gaming imo but it could be much better than it is especially without the massive live service failures. The rest of the world I have a lot less hope for right now. Hopefully the pendulum swings back towards the good ole days but I’m preparing for the worst.

There goes illuminati distraction story

So now there's certifiable proof that Ryan was in fact "fired", as opposed to when it was first announced that he "retired", in order to save face.

There's another guy who recently "retired" as CEO of another large gaming company, after doing a dismantling job as lead for well over a decade.

seems legit, the business man, fires the one who has ideas to move the business forward.

Jim Ryan is the reason why we are entering year 6 since the PS5 launch and many of us don't feel like the PS5 has gotten started as yet.

I hope going forward, we will see a return to form.