Dreamcast required no hardware or software changes, just burn the game to a disc.

What happened there then?

i know people that have x2 xbox 360s one just for copied games and one for online play (purchased games) and i know people who have gone out and bought another xbox 360 because of getting banned (the xbox 360 still works so its another sale)

on another note to stop a fanboyism reply, its also a reason the PSP has sold so much (not refering to the PSPgo) also because of the homebrew, not just refering to the piracy

i disagree
maybe hardware sell wise but piracy is not helping MS at all
2gb are sacrificed for what??
might as well just use those 2gb for better quality since the game is gonna be hacked anyways
and yea the psp are selling but do we see good games from famous developers?? we are lucky enough sony has been pushing devs to put games on it
and beside its like ur saying that ps3 wouldve been on top if it were pirated

I have leopard 10.5.7 on my laptop aswell as my PC working side by side, windows vista as dual boot.

I love OSX, my dell vostro 1400 costed me 500 dollars, OSX86 (free). The complete mac experience at 500 dollars is quite reasonable dont you think?

Not to mention i have upgraded my ram to 4GB ($90), where as you try to ask apple to upgrade your mac's ram, they will charge your $400 (I would have been jealous if apples rams were made by angels in heaven and not some chinese sweatshop)

I thought that too but the ps3 is hacked...

Im not going to post the website as i dont want idiots here hacking the ps3, but I will say that if you dont believe me, youtube search:

"hack ps3 free games" and the top result shows a website dedicated to it.

Hacking games from PSN and ripped blu ray disks...

Its not good but luckily due to the price of blu ray disks most people just dont bother. Plus Im not sure what measures sony takes but i wouldnt be suprised if you could use PSN as its well withing sonys rights to give your ps3 a code to brick it and make it unusable forever...

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please note that on the said site there is a survey you must do to get in, I wouldnt do it if I were you you could get a virus.

yah the PS3 software is hacked i wont deny
but
the PS3 is still NOT moded

whatever google may have told ya lol

seriously tho want proof go to the pirates bay n try n find one ps3 game any ps3 game and you wont cause its not cracked try the same with 360 games.

all they've been albe to do so far is modify a few ps3 files but anyone saying they got a cracked game ta work on it is bs'ing ya.

Piracy sells consoles because cheap people want free games thinking that the costs of DVDs will outweigh the cost of consoles. Each console in the house sells XBLM items that nets Microsoft money. It sells controllers, headsets, DLC add-ons and blah blah. Microsoft can easily track the IP.

1. They take the IP from their server.
2. They subpoena the ISP into giving the home address the IP address corresponds to.
3. ????
4. Pirate loses indefinitely.

Why do you think Microsoft only bans boxes and that's it? Because they want the pirates to buy more boxes. Just because Microsoft can't get game sales from pirate doesn't mean pirates are incapable of being profited from. They flood the underground with 360s, 360s become cheaper, brand-recognition is handled everywhere. And before you know it, Microsoft is in 2nd Place this console gen. Microsoft would be daft to scare people away from the 360 because in the long run, it's the larger install base that matters. Microsoft attempts to fight piracy briskly to put on a show for developers.

The same happened with Sony you know. The PS2 was cracked around 2004 with the Messiah chip and what did Sony do? Release Linux with a Hard Drive! Piracy may be dirty but it's an inevitable part of the industry and notice that all the companies are just trying to profit from it now. Why would Epic Games release their GotY pack and only include a voucher for the DLC? Pirates get their hands on the game, like it, and pay the MSP to get the DLC: Epic Games profits.

Microsoft looks at the long-run. They "might" sell at a loss, but the risk is there so that the pirate community will buy stuff off XBL. Just remember that every pirated game does not equal a lost sale. Whoever told you that "risk assessment" isn't a valid process never played hookie. Everything in business is a gamble.

It also depends how many pirated console are there. If there's only about 30 to 50 thousand pirated 360s, then it's not a massive loss. Look at games like COD4 and Halo 3. Those games still sell MILLIONS despite the number of pirated consoles out there.

So I think piracy is not as rampant as publishers are making it out to be. Yes, they aren't MAXIMIZING profits, but most people don't mind paying for something they really want. It's the cheapos who don't appreciate anything.

So according to your theory Microsoft is willing to sell game consoles to groups of individuals who steal and distribute software in the hopes that they will purchase downloadable content? THAT is what you believe is Microsoft's solution to piracy? OK...and I didn't say that risk management is an invalid form of analysis.

The reason PS3 is not pirated seems to be more than just a simple matter of expensive BluRays and wide adoption (lack thereof) of it.

The PS3 has been on the market for 3 years now...that's a pretty long time in tech. time.

I'm not saying that the PS3 is pirate-proof, but it does seem to be extremely pirate resistant. I mean, with over 25 million people owning 1, why is it that no one has successfully pirated the PS3 yet....IN 3 YEARS?

Yes I'm sure the "bluray-factor" plays some part in it, but obviously, there's more to it. Looks like Sony's got a strong handle on the situation......at least for now.

Good for them.

Hackers will be our saviour, no other way to put it.

Once Digital downloads take over there will be less and less competition they will also cost more, hackers will save us... and so what it costs big companies millions it also keeps them in check.

For a guy named Persistantthug, you're smarter than 90% of the people on N4G. Kudos to that.

And I agree, the PS3 has been out for almost 3 years and it still hasn't but successfully pirated. Maybe it will one day, but by that time we'll be playing on a PS4. Even then, there's the blu-ray factor and download times.

Imagine a game like MGS4 which uses 33gb. That would take a hefty amount of time to download. And it doesn't stop there, you have to have a blu-ray burner to put it all on for $250. And then you need to buy the actual blu-ray discs, 50gb's which are around $25 each disc. So when you could have bought and played MGS4 (especially today it's only $30), you've spent the days downloading, patching, burning, and buying the disc.

It's just not worth it right now for anybody to have a pirated PS3.

Maybe when blu-ray burners are $100 and discs are $5 each til we start seeing it common for pirated PS3s. Even then, there's still that hefty download factor and ISPs aren't going to magically get any faster for a long time.

Sony stopped hardware hackers
there is no single moded PS3 in this whole world

while on the other hand
software hackers are unstoppable
atlases for now

History has shown that the Expensive disk medium factor has always been a weak deterrent.

Why? Because eventually it gets cheaper....it always does.

Once upon a time long ago, CD burners were expensive too. Once upon a time not as long ago, but long enough, DVD burners were expensive as well. But in time, it gets cheaper and anyone can get one.

Case in point:

http://www.engadget.com/200...