Well, i can see all of them working except an FPS, unless its like Arcade style (where it moves for you), because if you have to move, where the hell will you move? 3 meters untill your head hits the TV? lol

the gay adult genre? natal is looking out for pedos like Roman Polanski who will love Milo

also i don't want to be holding random stuff just to play a game...

imagine i will just be skateboarding in my room instead of going outside to do it, oh yay i always wish i could of do that, thank you project natal thank you

realizing they want a 360 or PS3 to have better looking games, with way more technical depth than the Wii can provide... thus showing Nintendo is about to start going Gamecube!

Im starting to think this stuff will fair well for 360 and PS3... cause there really isn't s#!t to play on the Wii and the games severely lack the amount of polish found in 360/PS3 games!

My honest opinion!

how do you play an fps and an adventure game on natal??? would you be jogging in one spot to move the character????

Go motion sensing, for rediculous hard core games.

Most will controls poorly and be completely different controls wise, the manual will read like an art book with picures of crudly drawn humans representing certain motion.

I still don't see what's wrong with a controller and Neither does Sony or Nintendo who kept the control in amonst the motion. Microsoft are risking it and I commend them for it and will wait to see what happens, if it fails no sympathy, if it's good I'll take my hat off, I won't by it, but my hat will be off while USING the controler which is just fine,

So we can forget about it...all those genres i see a problem in each with natal..I will just stick with my 360 controller worlds best controller(IMO)

Eyetoy and Natal are not the same. PS Eyetoy had some basic facial detection, like: lip and eye movement. Natal knows who you are when you walk into the room. Eyetoy can track you moving some parts of the body as a gesture. Natal tracks any and all parts of the body, and can track the speed of the movement in any direction (it can tell wether you are hitting hard or soft; throwing far or near). This is why the "Z" axis is so important (this is all demonstrated in that striking the ball tech demo). If you are unable to see all of this by watching the tech demo's,that is what they are for, you just have to wait until the developer have a real game that shows this. Sony is using the bulb on the wand to try and create a bit of a 'Z" axis. It will help detect motion speed base on the wand movement. It is not as versatile as having a full body "Z" axis, but it is good enough where some Natal games that only require one hand can be ported over to the Eyetoy. The way the Z axis is implemented on Natal changes the hold motion control generation as it has been used in the past.

use ideas that sony did already and improve upon them and call it new.sounds like a plan.

we know that they will make a game like eyetoy play's air guitar game.or most games that work from eyetoy play .1-3

(5:24 seconds in)
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

eyetoy party will be copied in some manner
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

eyetoy anitgrav will be copied for skateboarding
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

one by one they will add things like play-create--share but call it play customize share like LBP and MNR.

facial recognition and face change,yup,microsoft designers will look at what sony is doing,then try to one up

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

it's a game of see monkey,see monkey do.

This is the problem with Natal and Sony's wand. People are trying to take existing genres with the associated gameplay conventions and cram motion controls onto them. It doesn't work. The only way Natal or the magic wand are ever going to take off is if the developers come up with something new. Base a game around the controls in a new, fun way instead of trying to make games that sell well with motion controls. And for those that talk about using Natal for voice recognition or other functions: 1: Sony can do the same thing through software, just like Natal would use; 2: Those features won't be substantial because the game would have to be playable by people without Natal and that won't convince anybody to buy Natal.

Natal could be great if the industry would get their fvcking heads out of their asses and do something new rather than the same old crap. Give us something new!

and RTS alone. Forget all the other games on that list. If not Natal, then someone needs to make a universal touch pad controller that attaches to the base of the controller like the mini-keyboard. Think of it like a mini version of this: (copy and paste video link)

#5 Rhythm games: Only if it's the most basic of maneuvers, such as stepping on various colors with your hands and/or legs at the same time. Good luck getting your typical hardcore and buyers of most rhythm games into it since it's less likely to be a difficult or representative of playing an actual instrument.

#4 Action Adventure: I'm insulted to even see them mention SotC, but honestly, no way in heck. You've got a huge amount of delay on Natal in the most simple of games. Pump up those graphics and add in some advanced physics and motion needs and you get kids playing an extremely dumbed down version of the game. We don't need dumbed down versions of masterpieces.

#3 RTS: Should work

#2 Stealth Action FPS: Really? And how are we going to be controlling movement with the needed precision and without the lag from Natal?

#1 Sony Idea Rip Off (aka Play.Create.Share): Seems like a slower and more tedious version of just using a regular controller, honestly.

i dont think any hardcore games needs them. i hate wii and wont be geting natshyt or ps3 dildo.

i dont care if they add them as long as there not required.

I don't think Natal will succeed. It short, it sucks.

Where did you pickup your Natal? I thought it wouldn't be out until late next year. Sounds like you had a nice long session with it.

natal is a gimmick at best.