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Left 4 Dead Update Released

Valve has released a new update for their zombie shooter Left 4 Dead, now available on Steam. The patch addresses some issues brought about by the Crash Course DLC.

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ChrisW6097d ago (Edited 6097d ago )

2 levels? That's it?!?

Several fanbase PC map-mods are 10Xs better than this! This is no way to support your fans! Absolutely horrible!

It also seems like they didn't play-test it at all. Special weapons, weapon caches every other room, and moltoves and pipebombs galore... just a poor map. I would give it about 4 out of 5 stars on L4Dmods.com (if I were rating it as a non-offical map!)

Booooo! To Valve for a map that probably took less than a month for 1 guy to make!!!

caladbolg7776097d ago (Edited 6097d ago )

I actually really like the layout of the map for competitive play. There are a variety of viable infected setups littered throughout the map. The finale, specifically, is a welcomed change as the survivors are forced to exit their camping location to reactivate the event after the generator loses power (about halfway through the finale). The length of the scenario (two maps) is perfect; rounding in at about 30-45 minutes. This is a significant improvement over the 1hr15 - 1hr45min length of the other scenarios. If you've ever scrimmed L4D, you'd know that by about the 3rd or 4th map, teams are just begging for the match to be over.

However, I agree with you that the sheer number of items that spawn throughout Crash Course is insane and needs to be severely dumbed down. In one game this evening, we counted 3 molotovs in one room, 2 more in the adjacent closet, and 2 pipes in the room directly across the alleyway. In another game, the running joke was that it was almost impossible for the survivors to lose because "50 medkits spawn throughout the level".

I chalk many of these issues up to Valve's stance on quality assurance (they don't have a dedicated QA team), where in the first couple months following a game's release they basically use their playerbase as unpaid beta testers.

Sadly, this latest update feels like L4D's death rattle. Updates have been few and far between (and ill-received). I don't expect many, if any, more significant updates to come for L4D1 by way of Valve. We may see a few more mildly-popular user-created mods, but I'm sure Valve's focus has shifted to L4D2 (which from a competitive gaming standpoint is DEAD IN THE WATER with the release of Modern Warfare 2 on the horizon). I know that within my circle of L4D friends, we've been seriously discussing skipping Left4Dead2, and I can imagine that this is the talk of many of L4D1's competitive teams.

Of course, this is just what I've noticed playing the PC version. If you want the XBOX360 perspective, you'll have to look elsewhere.

ChrisW6097d ago (Edited 6097d ago )

But after playing MANY of the fanbase campaign maps, I still felt a little cheated.

While the level layout isn't tight like the previous ones, I didn't get that feeling of "officialness" that is normally lacking in fanbase maps.

Every where you turn it was warehouse after warehouse. I've dappled in the level editor and to be honest, placing boxes and shelves are the easiest thing to do. My comment about it taking 1 person about a month to make is not unreasonable. It could make about 1/20th of a level from Crash Course in about 2 hours, and I'm slow at it!

As for people begging for it to be over by the end of the 3rd map... eh... true. But if they're going to shorten it to two levels, they should have put more time in detail. (I'm a sucker for aesthetics!) Also, they should’ve released 2 separate campaigns if they were going to only make one 2 levels. Maybe this is another reason why I feel somewhat cheated.

Lastly, another comment mentioned bringing in the original voice talent, which was nice... but the script writers must have been on vacation! Some of those comments were retarded! Like Francis' comments at the beginning of the level. "I've got a great idea... [blah blah blah] ...which means we go that way." The [blah blah blah] part was were it was kinda funny, but rather dumb.

Oh well... I'm going to back to L4Dmods.com and L4Dmapdb.com for more satisfying campaigns. (check em out! They're some awesome ones!)

strife011046097d ago

Would anyone know where i can get a pc demo for L4D. Both the site and STeam do not seem to have one. Trying to see if my pc will run it.

caladbolg7776097d ago

I don't believe that there is a demo anymore. I know that there was one about a month before the game's release, however I don't believe that it can be downloaded off of Steam anymore.

I can say this though, you need a pretty decent graphics card to play it. If you don't, any random horde of zombies will cause your framerate to plummet.

TheFlyingPenguin6097d ago

http://cyri.systemrequireme...

checks everything on your system to see how well you can run it instead of a yes or no answer.

MiamiACR16097d ago

They brought back the voice actors and they have a slew of new dialogue and conversations, Plus the levels aren't cluster f*cks like they are in Community made maps. Overall as a PC gamer getting this for free I am very pleased

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OG Left 4 Dead Creator Announces He's Working On A New Multiplayer Shooter

Following Left 4 Dead's undying legacy, the developer of the game shares that a new likewise project is in the works.

ZycoFox283d ago

L4D had potential to be so much more. The issue was that the release of the second game just one year after the first added a decent amount of content which was much needed, then there was nothing except for a few small content updates spread far between.

This is one of the only games I can think of that benefits from a yearly release, or at least a yearly DLC so it doesn't split the player base.

The games just got too samey and lack content.. it's a shame they didn't keep up the pace, I know you can download new maps but it doesn't change the overall game or add new enemies etc.

-Foxtrot282d ago

Regardless of what Valve officially said they didn’t need to do a sequel that fast, things could have easily been added to the original overtime and the sad thing is the characters and atmosphere of the original was better than the sequel. I mean we went from the dark, grim city streets to the sunny south where we are hitting massive menacing tanks with frying pans.

I honestly believe Valve killed it because it was a Turtle Rock game at its core and Valve wanted it to be known as an Valve only IP moving forward

They even brought back the original survivors just to kill one of them off (even though in the original they were heading North to Canada)

JEECE282d ago

Lol L4D2 came out in 2009, and you are saying it should have been a 2020s type live service game. It's just a great game, it doesn't need battle passes and skins.

This attitude is why devs are afraid to make any multiplayer game that isn't a live service.

Jingsing282d ago (Edited 282d ago )

Also in these current economic times live services is just a no go when people are being more frugal with their purchasing power. I don't do any subscription services anymore which means I can't do multiplayer on a console even if I wanted too. Something the console manufacturers should think about if they want to get players to even try their online stuff.

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Looking Back At 2008, An Unbelievably Incredible Year Of Video Game Releases

Huzaifa from eXputer: "2008 was home to the likes of Call of Duty: World at War, Dead Space, GTA 4, Far Cry 2, Left 4 Dead, and many other hits, which is outright remarkable."

ChasterMies775d ago

Some of these low paid video game “news” writers weren’t born before 2007.

just_looken775d ago

Here here

Those that were around before 2000's i am sure are like me that think we entered a world of non readers or those that follow without question.

I can not wait to see fallout 3 a goty game even though it was about water with non content until you add the dlc/updates then you got the performance/crashing

CrimsonWing69776d ago

I don’t think anything can compare to 2023

lucasnooker776d ago

1998 - the best year in gaming! Metal gear solid, crash bandicoot 3, medievil, half life, ocarina of time, thief, tenchu, resident evil 2, Spyro, tomb raider 3, oddworld abes exodus, banjo kazooie.

It was a different breed of a gaming era. You’ll never understand what it was like back then. The aura of gaming, it was different!

KyRo776d ago (Edited 776d ago )

I second this. Gaming was a lot more varied and fun than it is today. I'm 35 so getting on compared to some here but I got to see all the changes from NES up to now but I've never felt so disappointed in any generation than I have this current gen. I was expecting more from this generation rather than prettier versions of games that came before it. Game mechanics have become so refined that alot of games feel the same and has done for a while now.

Maybe it's time to have a break for a while. I love gaming but I don't feel I get much fun in the traditional sense out of it anymore.

CrimsonWing69776d ago (Edited 776d ago )

Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil 2, Abe’s Exodus, and Ocarina of Time are the only things from that list that I liked.

Here’s the 2023 game releases that I personally liked… and big releases that I didn’t care for:

- Dead Space Remake
- Wo Long Dynatsy
- Resident Evil 4 Remake
- Diablo 4
- Fire Emblem Engage
- Hogwarts Legcay
- Street Fighter 6
- Hi-Fi Rush
- Like a Dragon: Ishin
- Octopath Traveler 2
- Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters
- Final Fanatsy XVI (actually ended up not liking this, but it was still a big deal release)
- Baldur’s Gate 3
- Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon
- Lies of P
- Mortal Kombat 1
- Marvel’s Spider-Man 2
- Starfield (Ended up hating this one, but big release)
- Super Mario Bros. Wonder
- Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (I’m an old-school Zelda fan, but didn’t really enjoy this game)
- Alan Wake 2

I mean, honestly I’ve never seen a year of major IP releases like that, ever.

Profchaos775d ago (Edited 775d ago )

Isn't it just a generational thing realistically.

I've been gaming since way back and I some of my favourite games go as far back as the late 80s for me each generation has a year or two of game changing releases one after another before an inevitable dry spell.

I kind of agree gaming had a different feel games hit different because we didn't have the internet nothing got spoiled and you really had to put in the effort to beat a puzzle which could set entire groups of people looking for a solution. But most importantly games were experimental and not as cookie cutter as today even basics like controls were not universal today r2 is shoot l2 is ads garunteed you can't deviate from that in a shooter back then it could of been square, R1 or R1 and circle nothing was standard.

But as time moves on a new generation picks up their controller they are going to be interested in different things that PS1 demo disc with the t Rex blew our primitive 16 bit brains back on launch but to kids today it's laughable.
The new gen of kids coming into to hobby seem to value different things to us there seems to be a huge focus on online play, streamers, gaming personalities, and social experiences, convience of digital downloads. To me I value none of that but that's ok like my parents not liking the band's I would listen to its just the natural cycle.

Gameseeker_Frampt775d ago

Just about every year in the 7th generation was great and something we most likely won't experience again.

2009 for example had Assassin's Creed 2, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Dragon Age: Origins, Uncharted 2, Halo 3: ODST, Killzone 2, Borderlands, Bayonetta, and Demon's Souls to name a few.

just_looken775d ago

It still amazes me we got over 7 rockstar games ps2/ps3 but 3 for the ps3/ps4/ps5

Dragon age 1-3 and mass effect 1-3 in 7ish years what a generation.

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Most Offensive Video Games That Would Never Cut It Today

Times are changing, and these games would have never been made in today's climate.

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thorstein813d ago (Edited 813d ago )

Every single time someone uses this phrase whether it's music, movies, books, comics, video games, etc it's always the same claim.

The ubiquitous "they" won't allow it to be made. And every decade these claims are made the claimant completely ignores all the "offensive" material that is published when the claim is made.

In ten years, you can write a new article about how you can't make games like Helldivers 2, Resident Evil VIII, Mortal Kombat I, Dragon's Dogma 2, Alan Wake 2 etc etc etc any more.

MrBaskerville812d ago

Yeah, people wouldn't be constantly outraged if there weren't games that people found enraging. The whole SBI discourse shit wouldn't be a thing if all games were inoffensive. A game like Starfield can make a guy froth at his mouth, so there will always be room for a list like this.

0hMyGandhi812d ago

Normally, I'd be inclined to agree with you, but there are massive caveats.
TV shows like Venture Bros, Ren and Stimpy, and Aqua Team wouldn't/couldn't be made today. Hell, Ren and Stimpy was a *children's* show, same thing with Rocko's Modern Life.

It's not for some arbitrary reason, either. It's branding and IP alignment. Companies are far more risk-averse than they were when I was kid in the 90's. Of course, you have companies coming out of the woodwork to hell spur on similar content, but remember: Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon and some incredibly provocative material.

And for movies? it's pretty obvious. American Pie/Wedding Crashers/Eurotrip among many other "raunch coms" have fallen out of style, and are absolutely outside what the modern day film industry is willing to stand by.
Ace Ventura 1 and 2, Dumb and Dumber, Freddy Got Fingered, Rat Race, Harold and Kumar, and Van Wilder follow suit.

Remember: I am not explicitly talking about films put onto streamers. I am talking wide-releases in actual theaters. Same thing goes for games: Carmageddon, Duke Nukem, Manhunt, Six Days In Fallujah (with their original concept), Hatred, and so on and so forth. Of course, I'd be inclined to mention most tactical shooters like Rainbow Six and Joint Ops as well, due to cultural sensitivity regarding *who* you are shooting and why.

And not all of it is bad (obviously). Tastes change, and perspectives change to fit the demographic.
I should add that I'm a lefty, living in L.A. Working in film.

thorstein812d ago

The Boys, Invincible, Jojo Rabbit, Deadpool, Gen V, Last of Us, Banshee... There are plenty of media being made today that people will claim "can't be made today".

Profchaos812d ago

Yeah but if you consider manhunt which was basically a snuff film could you seriously make that game with high than PS2 era graphics.

thorstein811d ago

The Outlast Trials just came out.

But the storyline of Manhunt was that you were executed. But then lived. And if you didn't do as you were told, you'd die. And the people you killed were not innocents.

It was all filmed by a psychopath.

As we speak GTA VI is being finished up for a release. You get to play a Bonnie and Clyde type of protagonist who run up against the law.

Bodycam looks so real.

People are making those games. Articles like this will always exist no matter how incorrect they are, no matter how many times they blame "them" for whatever it is "they" do to prevent "those" games from being made.

ZycoFox812d ago

The UK is the biggest junk country pandering to that nonsense as well, with laws against free speech and expression to match. It got so bad even Rowan Atkinson made a video on free speech about it.

Now the UK raises the age rating on harmless films like Mary Poppins, it's just a load of pansy weak ass nonsense.

MrDead812d ago (Edited 812d ago )

The right wing Tories have been in power in the UK for the 14 years you know the ones that are "anti-woke", blame them for your perceptions.

Killer2020UK812d ago (Edited 812d ago )

Are these snowflakes in the room with us now?

This is more faux outrage designed to get hits. The consequences are unfortunately creating hysteria amongst those willing to buy into it and blame "them" or "the left" or "liberals" meanwhile the left are kicking off about genocide, actual real world abhorrent acts. Nobody is campaigning to censor this shit.

Huey_My_D_Long812d ago

Not too mention the fact that some of these game are controversial for you know, underage porn and encouraging rape.

So either the guy just came in to comment snowflakes without reading anything, or he is calling people snowflakes for having a problem with said titles. Crazy how much brain rot someone can have.

banger88813d ago

Dead Island: "The early PC version of the zombie game swapped the playable character Purna’s Gender Wars skill with a prototype name, which shouldn’t be mentioned directly. The skill name made fun of both Purna as a character and feminists."

"Feminist Whore" lmao

gold_drake813d ago

ill add one more to the list.
drakengard 1.

its ridiculous tho, especially since they'd still be able to find their place in alot of places in the world. except america of course ha. and maybe Australia.

ppl are so sensitive these days. ha. but it is what it is.

Barlos813d ago (Edited 813d ago )

They're not offensive.

And we need another Fat Princess. Fantastic little game!

Some people just have no sense of humour if this sort of thing offends them. They need to lighten up and stop taking themselves so seriously.

Deeeeznuuuts812d ago

Would love a new fat princess game 🤟

CantThinkOfAUsername812d ago

Games literally about sexual assault, mass genocide, bombing civilians, and school shooting. None of which is satirical.

isarai812d ago

Actually it's about fat princesses

Huey_My_D_Long812d ago (Edited 812d ago )

Its crazy that people are fixated on Fat princess when clearly the list is going over controversies, and not all of them are equal. Like way worse examples but pretend the entire list is like that.

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