jason just proves he only knows anything about the PS3 from what he reads on the internet. The internet also told me you have no games worth buying this year and that the 360 is as reliable as a $10 waffle maker.

Actually only reports came of freezing uncharted, and its a very minor problem happening to a few people unlike NXE

Try again :D

At least it only freeze
and mine never froze on me
i just played uncharted and it was fine

but when some one updates his xbox
boom
what you know
RROD

...having a requirement for a resolution is bad. Its like saying "the game has to ATLEAST look this good", NOT "the game cant look any better than this".

I mean, bots actually think Halo 3 had good graphics, so there's no point in M$ releasing actual HD games.

n_n

That's all.

lol a waffle maker?

That's one expensive waffle maker hmmm well got any syrup?

Did people actually read the article, or are they just posting knee-jerk reactions to the headline?

"As more and more LCDs ship with the full HD resolution of 1920x1080 then this will become less of an issue, but I’ve just had a look on Amazon and all the 26" and 32" Sony and Samsung TVs are still 1366x768.

It’s is for this reason that Microsoft recently retired the TCR insisting on 1280x720. Now we are free to make the trade-off between resolution and image quality as we see fit."

This is really a non-issue. Developers will still make their games look as good as possible, this just gives them more options to do so. Restricting the resolution to 720p didn't make much sense when millions of TVs are 1366x768, and thus the image has to be scaled to fit them anyway.

People truly are making a mountain out of a molehill with this.

Microsoft has been getting away with this for years, making us all believe it is better than it actually is. I remember when the PS3 came out and MS was saying that HDMI wasn't the future, and they aren't considering putting it into the 360. They flip flop like pancakes!

Examples are Halo 3 and COD4.

But developers usually upscale the game so people won't really notice without pixel counting.

I guess now 360 developers don't even have to try and upscale anymore?

Anyways, at least we have assurance that PS3 exclusives will remain native 720p or native 1080p. Thanks to the Cell doing a lot of GPU tasks, when programmers know how to use it, the RSX is free to do a lot more.

There is no a single first party sub-HD game on the PS3. All those sub-HD games are multiformat ports with the exception of MGS4 (1024x768), but Kojima did a very good work with the upscaler.

Future Sony's games are even more demanding graphic wise and they run at least at 720p.

I guess we could add, that it is going to stay with the PS3 as well since the 360 is giving up the ghost?

I dont get your post..."All those sub-HD games are multiformat ports with the exception of MGS4 (1024x768), but Kojima did a very good work with the upscaler."
Are you saying that (1024x768)is sub-hd, or did misinterpret your post? Cuz im pretty sure that it is hd.My tv is (1366x768p)native and it looks pretty freaking awesome. i can tell between hd and non hd pretty easy.

1. You can look at it at either Less HD games, or more games in general; either way this is probably due to feedback from developer concerns and may be a strategic move on Microsoft's part to get more indy developers to come to them who may not have the technical ability nor manpower to invest in games that are graphically superior.

2. I am slightly bewildered that developers might be having a hard time developing games for the 360 when the 360 was the one that was supposed to be the easier to program for.

3. I am also aware that the 360 was supposed to be the one that has superior graphical capability, so now I am starting to wonder if graphical capability in terms of effects, resolution in terms of game size and scope, and processing power are being misrepresented or confused with each other when people try to explain the differences betwixt the PS3 and 360. Yes, the 360 can make multiplatform games look better in some spots over the PS3, but could the game be equally powerful and carry such graphical feats? I see games like Lair on the PS3 within the first year of the PS3's life cycle, but games similar to Lair should be apparent by now on the 360.

Yes, I bring up Lair again; but if you got the chance to play that game (and possess the skill-set to fly satisfactory), you will find that the game is really impressive for it's early entry into this gen and in many ways not really matched in terms of using either console in terms of power and graphical capability.

Hows that Ghostbusters 720p patch doing?

That's exactly why Metal Gear Solid 4 was rendered at the resolution it was, 1024x768. It wasn't that the PS3 couldn't handle the 720p resolution for MGS4 but because that resolution was beneficial for most LCD HDtv's that are 1366x768 to prevent the vertical lines to be up-scaled and cause the image to be even more aliased because the 16:9 aspect ratio was out of focus.

But no, people just told me that I was a fanboy, that didn't know what I was talking about and that I was just defending the game sub-par HD resolution because it was a PS3 exclusive... I love this articles that prove me right at the end. =)

Too bad nobody remembers anymore... =(

lmao so its official it might look good but it will join ranks with Nintendo.... M$ taking a huge step toward casual gaming leaving the hardcore gamers that have made them a powerhouse.... coming fall 2010 cooking challenge deluxe 3 in 720p!

According to Wikipedia 1024 x 720 isn't sub HD.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

I think the Microsoft announcement is , possibly, in line with some of their 1st party game not being able to reach the HD mark to meet the release date.

Did you read the article?

Microsoft removed the requirement to produce all games at native 720P. Does Sony require all games to be made at a specific resolution? <--not trying to prove a point, seriously asking).

Just because they lifted the restriction doesn't mean that every game from now on will be low res. It just means the developers have a choice.

I assume this is the same with Sony.

Obviously a lot of the big name developers are going to try and push the 360's limits. They know their fans want to play their games in HD. I don't think they're that stupid.

And if this allows more indy devs to put games into the 360 library, I'm all for it! Microsoft and Sony usually have an underlying plan for their business moves and decisions. Let's just see how this one plays out before fanboys start foaming at the mouth... Which unfortunately it already seems too late for that...

Ah Sony only fanboys... The anger... The hilarity...

I was talking to guys who were saying MGS4 is sub HD

When you say flip, are you talking like Sony did with rumble. Oh...okay then I see what you mean.

*sigh* All you moronic fanboys really need to read the article.

So is it safe to say that Kutaragi was right when he said: " HD gaming starts with the PS3"?
I guess we could add, that it is going to stay with the PS3 as well since the 360 is giving up the ghost? "

How when the 360 has had 720p native games before the PS3 even launched? That was marketing from Sony and only a corporate tool would believe that jive.

People are making this out to be some big deal like the 360 is suddenly incapable of running native 720p or 1080p. It's just not true, if a game looks like sh*t and it's running at a sub-HD resolution the developer will hear about it like they always have.

Hate and irrational comments as always.

i honestly couldn't care what the article says.

A majority of developers these days make games at 720p whether people like it or not, 99 percent of EA's games are 720p native, it's cause it's the average 360 naturally puts out anyway.

mass effect2, gears2, bioshock2, street fighter4, Batman AA, Fightnight round 4, Deadspace, shadow complex.....they're all 720p.

@bigboss

Yeah I was saying that 1024x768 (4:3 ratio) is sub-HD , at least is not the standard 720p (1280x720, 16:9 ratio). I read that Wikipedia link and it says that 1024x768 actually is HD. So I stand corrected I guess.

BTW, MGS4 got a very awesome upscaler (up to 1080p) so no wonder why it looks that good on your tv.

Need to put in plenty of RAM next gen. I say 4 gigs. Yes 4 gigs because you can never have enough.

But Silellak, if you don't drive innovation then it runs you over.

*Sigh... Xbox 360, the only HD console that doesn't do HD resolution, doesn't have HD storage (BluRay or HD-DVD), and doesn't even truely support HDTV (no HDMI).

Metal gear solid 4 says hi, all 1024x768 of it

"1.27 -
Metal gear solid 4 says hi, all 1024x768 of it"

But 720P is HD. And MSG4 is 768P which is more than 720P, meaning MGS4 is HD.

They are selling more, true; but you can't play sales: neither will sales make a game more fulfilling from the perspective of the player.

All three consoles have sub-HD games.

All Wii games are sub-HD. Halo 3 was sub-HD. Metal Gear Solid 4 was sub-HD. There are a dozen more examples for each of the two HD consoles.

If you disagree with this post, you are disagreeing with FACTS, solid, concrete, verifiable FACTS, thus you are WRONG, FALSE, a LIAR, INCORRECT. Congratulations for being wrong, fanboys.

You must of hated MGS4 since it's sub 720p.

You can't have a good game unless it's native 720p or above! /sarc