@Javier

I've never met someone that was happy a man named "Gay Tony" would be coming to their console.

And second, it's by payment. That's what happens when you pay loads of money to have things. Good luck getting thru the 10 hours of the biggest disappointment in the GTA series without RROD.

Seriously, are you still playing GTA?

PS> We get the Fallout 3 DLC for free... I would wait for that.

we have games while u wait for ur dlc!

I would take the Agent exclusively any day over 2 "Damn" "Gay" dlc's lol...Get it!?

it's a nice space ..there is not much to do BUT it's free ..

Personal space are meant to be decorated .
Put furniture in it !
Anyway it's free ... it comes with the game ..it's a great thing .

Unfortunately I am arguing. I borrowed my friends ps3 copy as I wait for my copy to arrive and must say this is not what I expected at all. I have been in the bat cave and while it is cool to see the batmobile and other bat goodies, you cant do anything in it. Be nice if you could actually get in the batmobile and take it for a spin or have some really simple interactive games to play with the batarang but....nope.

The joker freebie is exactly that. A JOKE. I am serious to you ps3 diehards. If you think it is nice to have then you have no concept of what the phrase "last minute" means. The game as it seems was to far along in development to have them go back and change elements of the actual story to make the joker a playable character. That would be the the ultimate homage to joker/batman. You take turns playing throughout the game in a cat & mouse way.

As it stands you are limited to only challenge modes which are nothing short of just simple target practice. What good is playing as him if it bears no difference to the game itself? It is basically a last minute add-on ubisoft made a deal for with sony. Plus, the fact it wasnt even on the disc and was made seperate tells me it will come out for 360 anyway. I was really looking forward to playing as the joker in the game itself. Setting up different traps to thwart batman.

Free is free so like the saying goes. You cant argue with it. You can sure express that there should have been more substance in it with the hype sony was touting about it. In the end it is no different than the golden gun dlc for gears 2. If you have it or not doesnt change the outcome of the game.

The game itself is excellent and worthy of a sequel and better yet, a joker based spin off.

Ubisoft? You mean Eidos?

whoa..my bad. Dont know why i was thinking ubi. I really should have said rocksteady as they are the real talent behind this great game. Thanks for calling me on that.

My rant was a bit harsh. I am picky about the use of "exclusive" and how it gets thrown around so much. I guess the joker isnt that bad but still it would have been worth the ps3 purchase if it was more meaningful than it is.

I dont have to play those levels or use the batcave homespace if I dont want to. At least there is that choice.

Joker is far more difficult to play in the challenge rooms than The Bat (atleast for me)

Thats your biased opinion. There is plenty to do in home.

Yep, that's why there are now over 8 million gamers on Home it...

Because it's 'pointless'...

I'll be honest in agreeing that I think Home is boring and pointless. The only area I like in Home is the bowling alley and pool tables. Personally I don't think there are enough lanes and tables.

Oh yes. The "Home is boring/pointless" argument #3,456,789! While it may not be your, or indeed my, cup of warm brown stuff doesn't change the fact that it's ALWAYS busy and makes Sony a boatload of casg already with more and more devs wanting a piece of it.

When more useful services appear it might appeal to the likes of us more than we imagine and the possibilities are endless-with universal game launching, 3D trophies in your appartment and more activities like classic arcade games and comps the interest might come from core gamers like ourselves but to discount the value of Home to it's uses and to Sony would be a little silly, imo.

Also, why do people feel the need to moan about it when it's free AND if you don't like it you NEVER have to see it-unlike my Live Avatar which I never wanted, don't like and CANNOT escape from every time I turn my 360 on! I hated making a Mii so hated making the 360 effort even more! Seriously, can anyone tell me a good reason why MS won't allow us to opt out of having these avatars? If you feel like I do you aren't likely to buy clothes for it and all it srves to do is stop me turning the 360 on as much as I used to! Besides this lack of choice is totally unamerican.