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FF13 Producers respond to Graphics Changes

Final Fantasy XIII producer Yoshinori Kitase has responded to fans regarding the recently noticed graphical difference between different versions of FF13 while speaking to UFFSite's sister site RPGSite at GamesCom in Germany.

UFFSite got quite a lot of flak for their comparison pieces which compared screenshots of the same scenes from different periods of development. For the final word, they decided to go to the developers themselves.

JB0715926096d ago

They know that they didn't change it just because of the performance of both of the systems, it was because the Xbox 360 could not handle the the extra polygons on each of the characters... Damn You Microsoft! Just make a Xbox 720 and call it a day!

morganfell6096d ago

Agreed. They say they changed it because of performance but they refuse to say that they changed it on both consoles due to one consoles poerformance issues.

Look, if you have one console shown to be able to perform - and you even release a demo on said console - then you start development on the second console and both versions get downgraded then the facts are obvious.

Hey Yoshinori - Day 1 no sale for me.

Oner6096d ago

Exactly Morgan. There really isn't much more to say than that. Agree + Bubbles.

N73606096d ago (Edited 6096d ago )

I think its fairly obvious by now its because the 360 couldn't handle the extra polygons. We saw the demo playable from the FF 7 Advent Children Complete running 100% fine on the PS3. After seeing games like Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain, GT 5 etc I actually don't know how developers can even say that the 360 and PS3 are on par with each other. I actually wonder what other multiplat games would have looked like if they were exclusive to one console like the PS3.

Shadow Flare6096d ago

I'd like to see the difference graphically between 13 and versus 13. You know what im talking about

Sarcasm6096d ago

In before

"OMG what a PS3 sausage fest in here"

:)

ElementX6095d ago

Did someone say sausage fest?

v1c1ous6095d ago

im a bit skeptical about it though, since ff12 was such a snorefest, and the personalities and overall look of the characters in ff13 is looking like squeenix is heading in the same direction :(

fishd6095d ago

This game better have a story as good as FFX,GOD FFXII was boring

DaTruth6095d ago

All the proof is in. No pro 360 people will post here knowing that it will destroy their last argument, they will just leave quietly and pretend this article never existed.

Tomorrow they will still say "Teh multiplats are better on 360"

Godmars2906095d ago

At least that proves who's actually interested in the game, not just looking for some internet entertainment.

v1c1ous6095d ago

no, it proves the n4g ps3 brigade always jumps in to tout superiority and any sign of something wrong happening in a multiplatform game is always the 360's fault.

but i digress, i will play it on my ps3 cause i like one disc for convinience's sake, but i don't mind the 360 bros playing it. cause i'm not a total tool that gets upset over vidya gaems companies

SaberEdge6095d ago

You guys are funny. Actually the article didn't prove anything at all and fanboy conjecture is next to worthless. What are you guys going to say if Versus doesn't end up looking much better? Of course it should look a 'little' better since it is coming out later and the developers will have learned newer, more efficient techniques. But if it doesn't look significantly better, you guys are going to look pretty foolish.

What actual evidence is there of the 360 holding the PS3 back on any game? It doesn't exist. If anything, it is the PS3 that tends to fall behind in most multiplatform games.

I like both consoles, but it gets really old seeing you guys bash the 360 every chance you get.

heroicjanitor6095d ago (Edited 6095d ago )

Will all of the 360 fanboys stop trying to act as if they are being reasonable and everyone is over reacting? As a Final Fantasy fan I am very p*ssed they downgraded the game.

To the people denying this(don't see how you can really... just look at the pictures) Name one other game which has looked better in it's early preview version than it does when 90% complete.

For the record I'm happy it is on the 360, I'm annoyed that they couldn't just leave the ps3 version alone like they said they would.

morganfell6095d ago

I mind the 360 getting it. Why? If I knew for 100% fact there would be absolutley zero comprimises made to the PS3 version then I would not care. But that is not the case and we all know it. The irrefutable evidence is there.

First the game gets delayed. Then we start getting news like this. It is inevitable. They haven't completely doubled the dev team size or even come close. Resources have to be siphoned off the PS3 version. You know MS is hammering them for the game to look the same on both platforms.

With the sudden explosion in PS3 sales and the way PS3 fans are starting to give them the much deserved finger and move to Versus I hope they are happy with the money they got from MS.

Knightrid8086095d ago

I doubt there will be any difference. SE will probably use the same multiplatform engine to make Versus look the same as FF XIII to save face.

Let's think about this, if Versus ends up looking better, people will know that FF XIII's graphics were due to the game being out on the 360 and we all know it will just straight out contradict what SE's been saying.

Game13a13y6095d ago (Edited 6095d ago )

and from now on, i will not buy any Square-Enix games with full retail price. i will only get them USED!! you heard that SE????????? USED GAMES FOR YOU!!!

**hit the agree if you're going to do the same also**

PS: i hate Gamestop, but SE is worse!!

chaosatom6095d ago (Edited 6095d ago )

I was OK with FF13 coming out on the 360, but then Square went ahead and downgraded the PS3 version.

Now that's just Low. Square has become mediocre gaming company.

dabri56095d ago

The screen shots being referenced in this article are from a even older build than the demo. Of course the demo looks better. It was from a later build then these screen shots. On top of that. Those screen shots are being compared to target renders. They were not running on the PS3.

I'm not saying things haven't been dumbed down because of one system or the other. I'm just saying this specific case is stupid because the facts that are being used to make the point are incorrect.

Check out the latest screen shots of the game. They look even better then the PS3 demo which is supposedly what the game looked like before it was 360 gimped.

Wakka_6095d ago

What is it with PS3 fanboys and sausages?

el zorro6095d ago

The game looks better than ever. Only fanboy paranoia says otherwise.
Look at videos from the PS3 demo and then look at videos from the recent build and it is obvious that it actually looks a little better now.

Looking at a screenshot is pointless because you don't know if the screenshot was even a legitimate PS3 screenshot (not PC or bullshot), and even it is was there is no way to know how the game would have performed at that point. Maybe it ran like crap, at 15 FPS, and that is why they had to modify a few things. There are just too many unknowns and it is laughable the silly conclusions some fanboys come to.

pixelsword6095d ago (Edited 6095d ago )

...Then why didn't the creators of the game, who would know better than anyone, say that themselves?

I believe that there's a THIRD conversion going on.

Therefore, the FFXIII demo that came out on the PS3 must have looked better than the latest game.

Also, don't forget: SE said they would finish the PS3 version before making the 360 version: so if the game had hiccups that severe

(which couldn't be proven by the demo: it ran pretty much smoothly from what I saw)

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

BUT look at 1:45 in the gamespot clip, and then the pics in the article: I believe a third conversion is happening, and they let the cat out of the bag.

the game would've been downgraded ages ago, so to put out a demo and then discover that the console couldn't "handle" whatever is left is pure lies.

Just like how Rage took out a significant chunk of it's game and then claimed that it was intended.

I'm not saying to not buy it or buy it or it's the 360's fault, that's not my point: my point it show that SE is not being forthcoming.

nirwanda6095d ago

all square games have been a bit weak since FF10, final fantasy fans should do themselves a favour and go and play lost odyssey a really good JRPG with a very good translation for a change.

IdleLeeSiuLung6095d ago

First the game get's delayed and then now it is being downgraded. Sounds like one machine is too damn complicated to code for!

See what I did there? I doubt you saw it with your goggles on.

pixelsword6095d ago (Edited 6095d ago )

The demo that was released in Japan.

If the demo never came out, there would be no proof either way.

The demo looks pretty nice, so I can't fully support your claim, although I'm glad you are trying to look at it from all angles.

BUT, if you look at my first post above and look at the gamespot clip, you'll notice that 1:45 will answer all questions if you look at the article, and why I think a third conversion is happening as we speak.

Remember: 1:45

Greywulf6095d ago (Edited 6095d ago )

We all know the 360 cant go toe to toe with the ps3 in graphical processing. It just goes toe to heel when someone doesn't know how to use the ps3. A ps3 in a devs hand thats even unfamiliar with it, gets it within an identical image without AA, and thats the PS3's worst case scenario.

This is the reason everyone was mad when M$ bought into FF, and couldn't just wait to port. Because we all KNEW it was going to SOME HOW change, not saying the 360 gimped it.. But.. well...

Something changed pre-post exclusivity.

Call PS3 owners all the names you want, but its right here for everyone to see. Unlike EPIC, square with capable hardware is actually known for maximizing out consoles. Its why 360 owners & Gamers worldwide have been excited for the products, based on the reputation they had with Playstation Hardware. Now they are downgrading their games to work on multiple systems.If you cant see how someone would be put off by this, you're lying to yourself. People will pretend that because Square was popular last gen, then it excuses all this, but thankfully there are other fish in the sea.

Thank god for versus, because FF13 on 3 dvd's aint gunna be worth it. I just hope M$ keeps their hands out of it, that way we can get a WKC type title with Squares hopeful former reputation behind it when they have capable hardware.

Maxing out ff13 to look like an Unreal Engine game on a device with 4 year old PC specs isn't exactly hard.

chaosatom6095d ago

But why would Yoshinori say something so controversial.

It makes you wonder.

Cold 20006095d ago (Edited 6095d ago )

Still a day one buy for me,unless like Vicious and FishD said if its FF12 all over again...then I'll pass.

It graphically still looks better than any PS3 exclusive RPG to date, may that be WRPG or JRPG.

edit @chaosatom: well I buy JRPGS especially for story/characters. Combat is important but secondary to the story. And graphics are secondary too.

chaosatom6095d ago

The only bad about FF12 was the story and characters.

The combat was awesome.

But yeah I expect a far better story in FF13, if not then i'll pass.

Ravage276095d ago (Edited 6095d ago )

http://www.thekoalition.com...

And the supporting vid - http://www.thekoalition.com...

I'm not letting SE get away with this one. As of now, the list of (confirmed) gimps includes less CGI,no Jap voice overs & reduced character polygons. This is just great, CGI is the best part of FF to me and thanks to Wada, it looks like i still have to wait quite a bit till i get to play a REAL NEXT-GEN FF

k2d6095d ago (Edited 6095d ago )

I consider myself a Final Fantasy fan - but after spending 60 dollars on the PoS that is called FFXII, I am not so blindly in love with Squenix as I once was.

XIII was once a first day buy for me, but now I'm not sure wether I'll pick it up at all.. I hope most fans are paying attention this time around.

JokesOnYou6095d ago (Edited 6095d ago )

So I guess games like Valkyria Chronicles and Folklore graphics were held back by the 360?...Like no game has ever been downgraded, lol its SE and the ps3 is relatively new to them, any downgrades could just as easily be the lack of knowledge with ps3's difficult architechture, its lower spec gpu, hell its not like they would be the first to have a hard time with the ps3, some dev's have noted problems, Ghostbuster's?, Jonh Carmack?, hell Rockstar did...ps3 version maybe held 360 back by the same logic that ps3 loyalists use, hell there were pic comparisons of MGS4 original trailer and ones just before launch with many pointing out slight downgrades, maybe Kojima isn't God. lol Truth is I'm not a fan of this game but its still the best looking rpg on either console, lol I don't know what the hell that will ultimately do for the story/gameplay because SE has been hit or miss even according to their biggest fans for along time now.

JOY

DevastationEve6095d ago

Lol at the guys who think the first few tech demos/trailers of FF XIII were actually realtime.

And no, it has nothing to do with Xbox 360 not being able to handle the graphics. Actually both consoles wouldn't be able to pull off those tech demos in realtime. That's because those "tech demos" were actually just prerendered CGI. Also Squeenix have already stated that the game is being built on PC anyway. The downgrade is the result of porting their work on PC to the consoles.

You guys have to understand that it's not the Xbox 360 holding anything back...you're just too hopeful that those tech demos were actually realtime :\ And you're hopeful because you believe that PS3 could've done it, since they showed you the trailers at PlayStation's booth. They showed the same trailers at Microsoft's booth last year for their announcement, with the buttons swapped to "Go".

Guwapo776095d ago

I think not. Remember way back when, when SE announced it would go to the 360? There were 1 major thing PS3 owners worried about... Graphical downgrade! We saw this coming months ago but for SE to lie to our faces twice (1. PS3 version would be done first and there wouldn't be any compromise 2. Lie and say it isn't because any one system).

There was a guy on the article's forum that asked the question. If there wasn't an Xbox version would there be a need to reduce the graphical demand? ...I think not.

Aquanox6095d ago (Edited 6095d ago )

If the Xbox 360 wasn't able to display imagenery at certain level of quality, they'd just make the PS3 version look superior and then downgrade the Xbox 360's, just the way it happened in the past generation when the most exigent multiplatforms looked better on Xbox 360 compared to PS2.

This is obviously not the case but a natural downgrade from the original target renders compared to the final versions, just like what happened to MGS4, a game that remained exclusive.

Prepubescent fanboys of course, will not miss the opportunity to blame the console they don't like.

GiantEnemyCrab6095d ago

""The important thing for us is that the game runs smoothly on both systems. We have made changes to the game, but nothing because of one system specifically"

"but nothing because of one system specifically"

"but nothing because of one system specifically"

"but nothing because of one system specifically"

"but nothing because of one system specifically"

So there you have it straight from the developers mouth. If you don't believe his words that is YOUR problem. Who am I going to believe PS3 zealots or the developer?

I think we can now stop the BS that the 360 is holding the game back.

Immortal Kaim6095d ago

Seriously, give it a rest, buy the damn game on PS3 and be done with it (I will be getting it on PS3), just stop your whining.

Those original screenshots were more than likely target renders, which were taken from the PC obviously (Crystal Tools aka White Engine), as stated countless times, FFXIII isn't being developed on the PS3 and ported to 360. Crystal Tools allows them to port more effectively to different architectures (PS3, 360 and even possibly the Wii) using the PC as the base model.

soxfan20056095d ago (Edited 6095d ago )

@crab

You are 100% right. Unfortunately, elitist PS3 zealots have managed to convice themselves that the game is "gimped" because of 360, and they simply will NEVER believe anything else, even if it comes directly from the DEVELOPERS THEMSELVES.

It's all part of the great worldwide conspiracy against Sony.

RememberThe3576095d ago

There is too much lies and politics going on the get a straight answer from anyone.

@Soxfan
You need to explain to me why the developers would admit that the 360 gimped their game? Explain that to me...

Do you honestly think that Square is being honest? They lied about the game being exclusive, and lied about finishing the PS3 version before starting work on the 360 version. MS has their hand so far up Squares ass they're using them like a puppet.

rubarb236095d ago

based on all these posts by turdstation followers, it only proves one thing....they don't know how to read!
Nice guys!

JokesOnYou6095d ago

had Squeenix not made neccessary changes to keep the game running smoothly and it ended up a buggy mess the same fanboys would say "see SE gimped the game it doesn't run smooth cause of the 360", lmfao no matter what issues show up their going to blame it on 360 anyway...really its just bitterness cause sony lost a exclusive, if any person on this site believes that sony zealots wouldn't be praising THIS FF GAME with these current graphics as if it was the return of the something Holy, then they are by far the most gullible folks on the internet. Stop the hate folks, you'll sleep better at night. lol

JOY

tplarkin76095d ago

The original screens were "target" renders. They were pre-rendered cutscenes. This has nothing to do with Xbox 360. Besides, the 360 is more powerful.

Greywulf6095d ago (Edited 6095d ago )

The PS3 has shown its "best" efforts, which are worlds beyond the Unreal Engine and __name any 360 game__ ever created, ever. Even when the natural development cycle of what we can do vs what we want to do happens. Which is with all games, is hardly the same as gimping character models down and limiting/compressing content for a game that will only be ran on 3 discs.

Those aren't problems for the PS3. The only problems the PS3 has is running AA on an edge, install for data reading, and texture filtering, thats it. You dont have to go "ah man, theres not enough bluray space for these file sizes.. what can we do!?!" And that happens when you aren't even familiar with the development, you still get within blinking distance of the 360's best efforts. Worst case scenario, you have an mandatory install on the ps3, and an optional install that makes the game run better on the 360(Like Mass Effect) which given the option, not sure who wants the game to run worse, but thats another topic..

Killzone2 made compromises, yet is the best looking/performing console engine with a released title. All games do. And as always 360's think that someone is saying its IMPOSSIBLE to reduce budgets/detail on a ps3 game. NO one is saying that. Got it? No one is saying that PS3 games development cycles dont change. No, whats being said is that a PS3 game hasn't been degraded in the sense of this degradation. You can compare MGS4 to what it is today and MGS4 still stands as a better looking game than any 360 game ever made. And if you're trying to prove that its the "performance" that limited MGS4, well then what can you consider when the 360 can't even run MGS4?

Which is why Im fine saying that PS3 exclusives stomp mudholes in all other respective games in its class. MLB09 Vs 2k, MGS4 vs Spliter Cell, Uncharted 2 vs Splinter cell, GT5PROLOGUE vs Forza2, GT5 vs Forza3, Ratchet vs Banjo. Its always night and day.

The 360 doesn't have the graphical chops, they have the edge with advertising/xbox live. But when it comes to graphics, the 360 is completely dead in the water..

I mean imagine if they said "Sorry MGS4 is going to be a corridor shooter now, no exploring at all" the world would explode. But in the case of alan wake "oh yeah, about the sandbox world and physics.. uh.. a DESIGN issue came up 4 years into development, so we decided to remove the sandbox"..

Wake me up when a 360 game can hang with PS3 exclusives without loading hallways, wet textures, and bloom for no reason.

jke826095d ago

ouch JOY vs. WULF

wulf ftw that was pretty brutal....
+bubbles

FamilyGuy6095d ago (Edited 6095d ago )

If tons of fans decide to pass on this game square will only see it as "PS3 owners not buying games" and then FFversusXIII will become all the more appealing as a multiplatform game. *Reiteration* Saying you'll wait for FFvXIII is pointless as it'll get downgraded too after it becomes multi because of the low sales of the PS3 version of FFXIII.

You can't win, but i can't believe the developer/s actually admitted to downgrading. I thought this was settled with the screen shots being in the wrong order but i guess they just a told us it's true.

I can't believe they're actually claiming it wasn't one consoles fault when the facts are
1. Less CGI cut scene
2. No japan dub (admittedly because of the 360 and wanting them to be the same)
3. Less polygons for performance. <--we have many games out and coming out now that prove that the PS3 can handle high polycount models. Not only that but GOW3 will do so in 1080p and possibly 60fps.

I'm upset, i'm pissed really but im still buying it. FFX was my last SE game so i still have trust in that the game itself will be entertaining enough for me. I'm more bummed about them cutting down the CGI cut scenes then this anyway.
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GiantEnemyCrab wrote:

""but nothing because of one system specifically"

So there you have it straight from the developers mouth. If you don't believe his words that is YOUR problem. Who am I going to believe PS3 zealots or the developer?

I think we can now stop the BS that the 360 is holding the game back."

As the saying goes-
Trick me once shame on you, trick me twice shame on me.

Why should we believe them when they already LIED about not working on the 360 version until the PS3 version was done? Why should we believe them when they stated that the 360 version would in no way compromise the PS3 version when IT HAS TWICE NOW, before this was even brought up and exposed?
The amount of CGI cut scenes were admittedly cut back due to Dvd9 (7really)
Just a couple days ago they admitted that they could include Japanese voice acting as many fans are asking for it but that they decided not to because of the 360 version.

Why should you believe them now when they've lied repeatedly already?

coolirisGB6095d ago

Yeah because we all know the PS3 wins the 99% of the multi platform, performance and graphical battles lol :P

FamilyGuy6095d ago (Edited 6095d ago )

BUT, we ALL know that the PS3 has the best looking exclusive titles and that was what this game was until M$ tainted it. It has been downgraded, FACT. It was exclusive before the downgrade FACT. Most PS3 exclusive look better than multi-platform games AND 360 exclusive FACT. There was a demo for crying out loud and the fact that said demo was 5Gbs means something too (though disc space isn't the argument here).

Colliris, you're beyond help, lie to yourself all you want but there are simply too many knowledgeable people around to let your BS be believed by anyone here. You will be proven wrong on anything you say here so you might as well STFU.

commodore646095d ago

.... unbelievable FUD above from all the ps3 die-hards.

This is what the developer said:
"We have made changes to the game, but nothing because of one system specifically - all changes have been made to get maximum performance."

This is what PS3 fanboys said:
"aarrg. teh rrodbox has held dis game back. damn you MS!"

.. who to believe?
.. the developer or the ps3 fanboys?

solidt126095d ago

Exactly because it looked better when it was just running on the PS3 but now all of a sudden it looks worst since they ported it over to the Xbox 360. Dang, and they said the 360 wouldn't gimp FF13, they lied. The FF13 fanboys are going to go crazy over this.

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Game13a13y6095d ago (Edited 6095d ago )

buy th game USED please, everybody!!! don't get this game at full retail price, just buy it used, then sell it when you're done, so somebody can buy it used again, agree??

Bill Gates6095d ago

Everyone please thank all the BABOONS for allowing this great series to turn to SH!T right before our very eyes.

Once you STUPID BABOONS see what the 360 is doing to the gaming industry, you will stop supporting that GARBAGE....AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Xlll6095d ago

Or just don't buy it at all and wait for VS 13 unstead like me.

topdawg1226095d ago

thanks a lot bots, you pieces of sh*t,
Oh well im still picking it up anyway, I gotta play this game!

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Man_of_the_year6096d ago (Edited 6096d ago )

Anyone who thinks that this is the fault of the 369 are idiots. Motomu Toriyama said that it was downgraded to match the performance on both systems.

"Producer Yoshinori Kitase added to the explanation. "The important thing for us is that the game runs smoothly on both systems. We have made changes to the game, but nothing because of one system specifically - all changes have been made to get maximum performance.""

It has nothing to do on 1 particular system. Ofcourse the initial screenshot we saw was from the computer build. Just like KZ2 when they first showed it off and tried to pass it off as gameplay. A target is presented "teaser/trailer" and then the developers try and get as close to it as possible.

PS3 fanboys are just still upset that the game is also coming to the 360. And before you idiot of PS3 fanboys start calling me a fanboy, i bought my PS3 mainly for FFXIII. So i was just as pissed when it went to the 360.

LOL just look at the babies. LOL i love watching te PS3 fanboys rant and throw tantrums early in the morning. LOL oh and how they are all looking forward to to FF vs. when everyone knows that FFXIII is the real game. LOL keep crying babies....oh i guess now is the time where you all start yelling "boycott" LOL right.

@ -x.Red.x- sorry red, maybe in your fanboy eyes it has, it came close but didn't match. The shadows for 1 thing look terrible. Lots of jaggies (pic 18 right side). Also you can PLAINLY see that the character models and faces are not as rounded as those from the 1st trailer (left side).

chidori6666096d ago (Edited 6095d ago )

http://ps3.ign.com/dor/obje...

http://ps3.ign.com/dor/obje... (ps3 pic)

2008 pic
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2009 pic

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3... ( 360 pic after change of plataform, dowgrade confirmed)

http://ps3.ign.com/dor/obje...
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realy square? dowgrade confirmed.

-x.Red.x-6096d ago

killzone 2 meets it's target render
http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

and of course they won't say
"Hey 360 can't handle it!!! buy our game still"

Alcon Caper6095d ago

really helgan?

do we need to bring up every ps3 exclusive target render from the beginning to see how the render WASN'T met?

Motorstorm, Killzone 2, Lair, Afrika...

All of these games had a significant downgrade from their original "target". Definitely a case of Sony setting the bar a little too high.

It's a matter of devs realizing how limited they are when they really dig into the PS3's hardware.

At least the 360 didn't claim unrealistic target renders only to have an entire fanbase go...this is it?

Notice how Sony abandoned this method of "target render" marketing. It totally just sets you up for disappointment...

This is what's happening to FF.

ZBlacktt6095d ago

Yeah, because anyone who doesn't agree with you is a fanboy huh? Might want to look in the mirror. Let people speak there opinion as you did yours. No matter how foolish you look as well.

el zorro6095d ago

Killzone 2 did not reach the level of its target render. That is a pure fanboy myth. It's easy to see how much better the target render was than the final product, it's not even debatable.

The Killer6095d ago

you are 12 years old sick boy, thats what i see in your comment.

i hope the puppies start to grow already so you start having a mans life/real life.

The_Beast6095d ago

Thats why most of the reviews said that it even beat the target render in some aspects

it wosnt that much off btw

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ULTIMATE_REVENGE6096d ago (Edited 6096d ago )

He just basically admitted that FF13 has been downgraded. He did a little bit of damage control but he completely failed at it and confirmed that the games been downgraded and we all know why (^_<)

DowngradeBox 360 FTL!

EDIT: this is where the damage control comes in "The important thing for us is that the game runs smoothly on both systems. We have made changes to the game, but nothing because of one system specifically - all changes have been made to get maximum performance."

They downgraded the PS3 version to match the performance of the 360 version in order to satisfy the 360 nerd brigade.

@Man_of_the_year. "PS3 fanboys are just still upset that the game is also coming to the 360"

and so is Mr Nomaru hence why he left the development of FF13 and joined the FFvs13 team because he knew FF13 will never represent the quality of traditional Squarenix games.

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Einhander1972869d ago

FFXIII is actually one of the best Final Fantasy games.

I also sort of was disappointed at the time, never as much as the bandwagon. But really all the fantastic 3D rendered cutscenes and I actually liked the characters and the story though convoluted was actually fantastic and the ending was extremely emotional. So much budget and time were put into that game Square had such big plans, I actually have always felt kind of bad for how things played out.

I have been thinking for years how great it would be to get all three games on one disk for PS4 or 5.

Nyxus869d ago

I always liked this game, and I agree, a rerelease for current gen would be nice.

Shane Kim868d ago (Edited 868d ago )

Gotta take off the nostalgia glasses. It's the worst FF. Shiva as a bike, I mean come on.

Elda868d ago

Shiva as a bike is strange but saying FFXIII is the worst FF is not at all a fact, that's simply your opinion.

Terry_B867d ago

*One of the 3 equally bad FF's

DivineHand125868d ago (Edited 868d ago )

When I got my series X a year ago, I bought FF13 for nostalgia reasons but ended up being disappointed. When I first played it around the time it launched, I didn't have a lot of experience with final fantasy games, so I enjoyed it. Fast forward to when I played it again, I found that the game had many unnecessary filler moments instead of just giving us meaningful content.

The game is also very linear and a quote on the article said it best. "It is like a sewage pipe that leads to the ocean until it opens up on Grand Pulse."

The story didn't make much sense either and I believe it is my mistake as I played the FF7 remake on PS5 prior which is a night and day difference in terms of pacing, storytelling and likeable characters even though cloud is aloof.

FinalFantasyFanatic868d ago (Edited 868d ago )

Probably was a mistake to play any of the golden era FFs first (e.g. FF6 through FF10), it makes it harder to enjoy some of the FFs that aren't as good. I think FF12 was where major issues with the series started becoming apparent, and it just got worse from there.

FinalFantasyFanatic868d ago (Edited 868d ago )

I didn't really care for it that much, the only saving grace was that it had a better story than 15 (overall it was better than 15) and possibly 12, and even then, you had to read some of it through primers, like reading a book. Plus the battle system was reasonably fun for what it was, even if it was more the spectacle that was exciting for me (e.g. summoning). And to be fair, the 13 trilogy got better with every games, I still don't like Snow though.

Gamingsince1981867d ago

Ff13 is only good if you haven't played a ff before, or any other games that are decent for that matter.

-Foxtrot867d ago

It is in fact no way the best Final Fantasy game, it's one of the worst

Linear corridors, Cutscene, Fight, Cutscene...rinse and repeat

Dialogue and characters are pretty bad, especially Lightning as the main FF hero, they literally said they tried to make a "Female Cloud" and they failed.

Story was pretty awful

I could go on

I think the only alright thing that came from the game was the music.

Elda867d ago

That's not a fact that's your personal opinion. The game sold 11 million copies between its 2009 release up until 2014 including critically reviewed as an 8 out of 10 or an 80 out of 100. The game does have some issues but it's not at all a fact as one of the worst FF games.

-Foxtrot867d ago

Elda

Not just mine mate

A large majority

So….

Traecy867d ago

N4G commenters such as yourself aren't the majority. The game was well received.

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gold_drake869d ago (Edited 869d ago )

i liked the game alot but i didnt like how they handled the terminology.

i dont mind reading data logs but it had soo many.

but i always loved the music and how it looked. the battle system wasnt too bad either.

but i like 13-2 more :)

i still dont understand why we never got a remaster of the trilogy

Eonjay867d ago

Xbox kinda did. Besides the video files of course which are still best on PS3 due to bluray.

Snookies12869d ago

XIII is a pretty solid game, but XIII-2 is WAY better. XIII-2 was one of the few games I decided to go for a Platinum trophy in, early on. Had so much fun the entire way through getting it too!

Eonjay867d ago

Totally agree. FF 13 was okay but 13-2 is my favorite FF game ever.

shinoff2183869d ago (Edited 869d ago )

I hated this to when it released. I haven't much liked a ff game since ff10 as much , aside from ff7remake. I decided to give it another shot on my series x since it's not on a current ps and was liking it quite a bit(just takes me some time to get over things ) until star ocean 2 remake came out I was all over that.

Square should definitely remaster it or something for ps4 ps5

KillerB868d ago

my favorite jrpg trilogy ever

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