over 15,000,000 XBOX 360's Have Failed Since Since Its Release
Oucheeeeeeee

thats what ya call marketing!!!11!!

war? no.. microsoft does not make guns... ya i know that's not what the article is about but the damn headlines are stupid.

This is WAR! *Kicks 360 into the pithole*

I just came on my Slim

http://i30.tinypic.com/344p...

they even rig polls and advertisment.

MS can't do anything right now. Unless they drop the arcade to $99 which I'm pretty sure they won't they have a very slim chance of beating the PS3.

OMG, when did N4G turned out into News for Trolls? There are so many of them that it is just unbelievable! Anyway, join in me on the battle in the open zone! =D

BTW how many accounts do I have to create to gain at least one more bubble? Like 10? 20 maybe? =p

A price drop on the xbox360 will only delay the inevitable : )

Costumers wants great games and if possible a lot of then and that is why month after month more and more pll are stoping buy both Wii and xbox360 because the lack of new AAA games for those plataforms.

Sony did the right thing that was to not just reduce the price of the PS3 but also show lots of AAA titles coming bettewn oct-June(2010).
I belive that for every ONE new uber AAA game on the wii/360 we can find TEN on the PS3 in 2010 so both Microsoft/Nintendo will need more then a price cut on their console to really stop the growing worlwide of the Sony's PS3.

Long live my Xbox360 and by the way r2d2,aty,n4xboxg,flipmode,midr is7,shbzshar,flatulentghost,Ob ama,cmrbe,peternorth,Saaking,p l aysta t ion X,shadowman are delusional fansboys because sony is still in last place right? You act like they won.You guys are fools on sony di#k and need to grow the fu*k up and get a life.And yes i am a bot.You are pathetic kids. You sound like a bunch of 12 year olds that just learned what swear words are.You know their wrong but when mommy isn't around you use them to make yourself look tough.Yes obama i have one account you multi accounts on a gaming site to self bubble and mass agree with your self.Your area real big fool.

it is a simple question with a simple answer, NO. They are as ready as when they release the 360 knowing the hardware issues.

Is MS ready for the slaughter lamo!!!

Considering they started it. Twice.

I like cheese. I know that bit of info sounds irrelevant, but so does everything else that is said on here. So... I like cheese.

Ready for War??? LOL. Oh wait, it's just gamesonsmash.com. One of the most idiotic sites around.

I don't think Microsoft can counter. All of their supposed advantages have been equalled or eliminated, and with the price now making them virtually even, Sony has the ball clearly in their court.

The only thing Microsoft can do is strengthen in the US, which is their strongest territory. Cause the 360 is all but done in Japan, and The EU won't be much different.

Superior games, superior hardware, better price = Better value. I don't see this ending well for the 360.

-120 or 250GB HDD
-Less power consumption
-Upgraded internal hardware
-runs quieter
-smaller more space efficient design
-Updated cooling system
-Stand is optional, can stand without

and did you really moan about losing the PLAYSTATION 3 spiderman font? Let me get you some kleenex.

It's strange alot of the posting on this section is PS3 biased, i just wiki'd (not that wiki is the most reputable source of info, but it's clearly more research than what has been displayed on this page) the world wide sales and 360 sales are ahead by close to 7 million units.

Focusing on where you win battles raises questions on your whole argument. I personally don't have a preference in which console i have both seem to be more or less pushing the same crap with different wrappings. I just can't stand blatant fanboyism, just get over it and realize that both consoles suck equally.

This christmas sales season will be telling of who will win this "war" may the console with the better exclusive titles win.

Damn, where did this army of trolls spawn up from. This article about a "war" is nonsense and so are the trolls and fanboys arguing about it.

What they didn't expect was the 299. They expected 349, that is why the elite will have a pricetag of 299. You can argue what you want. The PS3 for 299 is a steal certanly in this economic climate. MS is quiet because they are caught in the act.

Microsoft has already lost Japan and Europe
the only palace left is the US
and that's where the 8 million ahead comes from
now this is gona be kinda hard because the US in the xbox 360's home
but
alot of ppl waiting for a cheap playstation
and thats why the slim is an overkill

The factory defect rate for Xbox 360 consoles in August 2005 - four months prior to its US launch - was as high as 68 per cent.

What's more, the initial yield on the three-core CPU designed by IBM for the next-generation console was just 16 per cent.

That's all according to a report by VentureBeat's Dean Takahashi, author of the console's unofficial biography, of sorts, Xbox 360 Uncloaked, who attributed the numbers to "several sources".

In his article Xbox 360 defects: an inside history of Microsoft's videogame console woes, Takahashi also wrote that during meetings to outline the Xbox 360 project, "Secretly, Microsoft had planned on selling 50 million Xbox 360s".

Later on, Takahashi's sources claim that Microsoft was well aware of the massive defect rate (although entertainment division boss Robbie Bach has subsequently denied there was any concern about it at the time) and chose to press on with the console's launch anyway.

Over 1.2 million consoles were returned by early 2007, he wrote, and eventually Microsoft announced a free replacement service as it got its head around the problem.

As to why, Takahashi identified any number of things, but in terms of the early round of problems it sounds like feature-creep, with the late addition of hard disks and wireless controllers blocking airflow

"It turned out in the end that this was all going too far, too fast," said one source quoted by Takahashi. "They were adding too many features after things were locked down. That incremental feature adding just made it fragile."

Microsoft also took ownership of the ATI and IBM chip designs at the heart of the console. "However," Takahashi pointed out, "this was a mistake: it was now responsible for failures related to the chip." Yeah - oops.

The result of all the failures was, initially, a "bone pile" in a warehouse at manufacturer Wistron and a repair centre in Texas of over 500,000 consoles that either didn't work to begin with or broke quickly. All the while we were being told failures were within "normal rates for consumer electronics products".

Later, between January and June 2007, Microsoft even shut down manufacturing, according to Takahashi, in order to investigate.

Yet for all this, Takahashi reported that Robbie Bach told fellow diners at some sort of technology banquet in July that gamers have largely forgiven the company for the defectives 360s.

For Microsoft's part, it said: "This new story repeats old information, and contains rumors and innuendo from anonymous sources, attempting to create a new sensational angle, and is highly irresponsible."

Microsoft has whopped Sony's ass ever since they took out their POS3 in 2006 and threw it on shelves.

Nice try though, now that Sony had a price cut, all the droids are bothering to login and write comments that don't make sense.

"lololoolol teh TRASHSTATION3, no soz its nuw TrashStation 3 will be teh microhard xbox and teh xbots gun cry ... lolololol rrod"

This isn't News for Gamers, more like News for Fanboys.

Listen up people, fanboys, trolls, werewolves, or whatever you are calling yourselves these days. This "war" topic is dumber than a blind man with a drivers license. I actually don't care who wins or losses. PS2 outsold the competition but xbox360 still came out this generation and so did the WII. Regardless of who outsells the other all three of these gaming giants will release another console the next generation. All of the consoles have their faults. With the 360's RROD being the biggest topic of them all and I can see how sony fanboys see that as a easy target to fire at. But what's amazing is that even with the said "54%" failure rate which I believe is bull that faulty system has still outsold the more reliable PS3. Now fanboys can get upset but you have to give props where they are due. Microsoft turned that frown into a smile with everything else the 360 has to offer.
The fact that the 360 launched over a year before has no real reason for the lead in sales. A console that is claimed to have a 54% failure rate can not rely on jumping out the gate first for over a year unless they are doing something so wonderful in the eyes of gamers that they overlook that notion. Microsoft is very new in the hardware sector of gaming and entertainment. They are first a software company and that is where they shine and that is the real reason for the lead in this generation. Everything about the PS3 is superior....EVERYTHING!!!! But we are talking about gaming and the 360 has a better selection of games. I agree that the PS3 has some killer apps as well but the fact is 4 or 5 games can not compete with the library of games the 360 has. Tack on live and you have the reason why many 360 owners or potential owners overlook that failure rate and the lack of blu-ray support. The lack of wi-fi out of the box and the cost of live. And to add insult to injury the 360 is a pirate cove. It's so bad there are people with actual websites advertising modding the 360..(pretty stupid but you get the point) and with all of that against it the 360 still outsells the PS3.
This price drop is great for those wanting to purchase a PS3 but it's not a good thing for Sony if they don't start moving units and the gaming line up doesn't move consumers to buy consoles and games. Sony does have a good line up coming this year and hopefully that is enough but Sony can not count on multiplatform games to move units. Microsoft is at a point that moving units isn't the goal. The goal is to move software. The more software they move the more they can reinvest in the technology that is the 360. Soon the RROD will not be an issue. Trust me that huge price tag on repairs is not something they are letting go unchecked and the new systems coming out more than likely will not have that issue.
Sony will catch up with sales very soon this I do not doubt and if they continue to release better games then things will even out but in no way can anyone write off either company right now. Just enjoy your console of choice and stop bashing the other. This generation Microsoft did the impossible and I have to tip my hat to them because the 360 started out a mess and look where it is now.

Ready for war?

More like ready for strategy.

It takes more than a slim design and a price drop to make the Xbox360 obsolete.

I really don't understand what is going through peoples heads.

That's not how it works. You first need to create something that will make Xbox360 gamers not want to play those systems anymore.

Because as long as there is an install base and Xbox Live community there will be no worries on Microsofts side for nothing Sony throws at them will stop it from growing.

I'm sure Microsoft has a card up there sleeve they always do, whether it's an ace or a 2 we will have to wait and see

The Xbox 360 breaks five times as often as often as its closest failure-prone competitor, the PlayStation 3, a print edition-only Game Informer survey found.

The poorly manufactured, red ring of death-prone console has a 54.2 percent failure rate, compared to 10.6 percent for the PS3 and the Wii's 6.8 percent.

The magazine surveyed nearly 5,000 readers to get the data. And while the 360's rate is alarmingly higher than the others, it's still bafflingly low because it blows the mind to imagine that 45.8 percent of the consoles have not broken. Also, Microsoft's numbers are inflated because 360s are used the most of the three consoles. Results said 40.3 percent of 360 owners use the console three to five hours a day, compared to 37 percent of PS3 owners. Meanwhile, the plurality of Wii owners (41.4 percent) play their consoles less than an hour a day.

Microsoft also seized the gold medal for unhelpful customer service, taking nearly a month to repair or replace a console, while Nintendo and Sony stuck closer to a week. Only 37.7 percent of Microsoft customers found the company's customer service was "very helpful," compared to 51.1 percent fo Sony and 56.1 percent for Nintendo.

The most shocking number from the survey - and frightening from a consumer perspective - is only 3.8 percent of Xbox 360 owners said they'd never buy another Xbox because of hardware failure."

when its console STILL has less features than the PS3 at the same price.

a "counter" would be if they somehow managed to match and or exceed what the PS3 is offering, and do so at the same price.

to do that, MS would have to bundle in the Wi Fi adaptor, and a Blu Ray player, and cut the cost of Xbox LIVE to free. not to mention produce a stable of first and second party games in every genre that are TRULY unavailable on any other platform (that includes PC).

to ME, at least, that would be an appropriate counter.

my take on it is that all MS can do is cut the price to match the PS3's new price, and market aggressively.

thing is, the Xbox 360 has been the cheapest console on the market for a while now (Arcade at $199), and it's definitely boosted sales, but a LOT of people have been waiting for a PS3 price drop. MS would never admit it, but people have been DESIRING the PS3 more than a 360, because, in truth, 360's are rather common, and already at mainstream prices. most people that wanted a 360 have been able to get one at a fair price for YEARS now.

the same can't be said for the PS3, which has been at a premium price for the first 3 years of it's lifespan.

i guess the point i'm trying to make is that the PS3 is in a better position with its price cut, than Microsoft is with ITS price cut. people have been anticipating a PS3 price cut, while not as many have been anticipating a 360 price cut (hell, many a person could snag an Arcade at $199, and by a used 20gig HDD for less than $50).

price has never been an issue for the 360, where it has ALWAYS been the issue for the PS3. until now.

and the PS3 has a strong holiday lineup this year to rope in the new gamers from hardcore to casual (with a big chance that their biggest franchise, Gran Turismo, will hit this year also), while the 360 has Halo: ODST and Left4Dead 2, two hardcore games.

i think the only way for MS to truly "counter" Sony would be with strong exclusive games, and, unfortunately, that's never been MS' strong point with only 6 or so first and second party studios, compared to Sony's 19 first party, and 11 second party studios, which they're constantly adding to by partnering with more studios (ie, Media Molecule, Quantic Dream, thatgamecompany, etc).

that's just my take on it.

Soxfan2005 said "MS is ahead of PS3 in the US - which is, BY FAR, the single largest gaming country in the world."

Maybe, but still the the PS3 is outselling the 360 overall since it launched worldwide. Certainly you can't deny the importance of the US market but the PS3 still sells more consoles. Fact: from 2007 till the halfway mark of 2009, the PS3 has sold over a million consoles more than the 360. If you matched up the launch of each console, it looks even worse with the PS3 outselling the 360 by 3 million consoles if you look at what they each did in their first 2 1/2 years proving that it's far more popular with consumers than the 360 ever was, or is.

So, if the US is the most important market - how come the PS3 is beating the 360 overall? Your logic doesn't stand up to the sales data.

Why is such a poorly written clearly fanboy-authored article at 400 degrees hype? Why is this kind of trash even on N4G at all?

I'm sure MS have a plan and will adjust it according to the market. Right now Sony is bringing it and their chess pieces are more visible on the board now. MS is making it's next moves and it should mean good things for consumers.

MS has stated clearly "We will beat Sony this generation". So far, they have done that in sales/marketshare which is MS's goal, so let's see where they move next.

half of Microsoft hardware sales are replacement RROD xbox 360s, 54% selfdestruct rate!

"theres a war going on?
this is the problem with this gen, and i hope this dies with this gen."

oh ya there is a war in every generation, and it'll never stop until there is only one system (which WON'T happen).

so rest assured next gen will have a war too.

i bought a xbox360 when it came out sold it right back cause of fan noise if you can believe it

bought a ps3 60gb when it came out very happy with it

now i am about to get a elite xbox360 with new chips and games being installed on hard drive i heard fan noise isn't bad now
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if sony dropped the price how much did you get paid why are you making fanboy comments just enjoy games for what its worth
xbox360 is also a great console so stop hating one or the other

if you were ready for war would you want a general that made rash decision or one that made decisions on what the best route. lets take the ps3 and m$ price cut. this was made because of the new ps3 that made them just drop the price it was like a reaction instead of a planed out thing. did that help them no instead they would be selling the 360 at 50 dollars more and still get the same result. people who buy 360 are already owners of the system they arent getting anyone new on the system.
m$ is dead in the water and from what devs are saying natal is a flop

Xbox 360 is STILL cheaper then the PS3...200$ model remember? if people have a buget the Xbox 360 WILL be there choice.

What is with this 'war' BS? Does anyone actually enjoy PLAYING the games instead of arguing which one is better?

haha, people on game sites & blogs really over dramatize the business aspects. The game business is so large, that three consoles can easily stay in the market & be profitable.

There is no war. Some people prefer the Sony product. Some people prefer the Microsoft product. And if you read the blogs, you can see a lot of consumers are going to stay loyal to their brand of choice. People can call it war, but these companies are both going to be selling their products, and making good profits simultaneously over the years. Both companies are kidding themselves if they think they can completely take the game market & become the one "holy grail" console maker. They should both continue to do what smart companies do - know their own niche and target consumers, and continue to focus on those areas for sales, regardless what the other company is doing.

sony lost plain and simple..

they got too desperate too fast, a slim and a price drop?! and still losing money on every ps3 sold lmfao

Gonna be a long time before sony get its investment back with the ps 3 looks like it needs a 30 years lifespan to recoup the losses then sony has 2 consoles on the market. The ps 3 and 4.

This are tough times to be a PS3 hater

360 released in 2005
PS3 released in 2006
Both consoles are going for a 10 year life span
Do the Math...