"like don't both the ps3 phat and the ps3 slim use the same type of hard drive"

Both of them, PS3 and PS3 Slim, can be upgraded with standard off the shelf 2.5-inch SATA notebook harddisk.

Good thinking @qface64. I think you hit the nail on the head with that...

But that was not my point, my point is if Sony can do it then why can't Microsoft? Say what you want, and yes I agree the price is the key here, but if Sony can come with a redesign why can't Microsoft when their console has had the most problems?

Upgraded chipsets didn't do it so they need to go deeper into it and redesign it unless the new xbox is really coming out in 2011, then I guess it doesn't matter. If it is going longer than that they need to do something.

From a hardware design point the Xbox 360 is a complete disaster, everything in the Xbox 360 creates lots of heat, the CPU, the GPU, and the DVD drive (Which at 12x speed creates lots of heat and noise) all of that in a case that has no real way of getting rid of that heat(doesn't have proper air flow or ventilation). Also a proprietary hard drive which serves two purposes, one is to guaranty Microsoft makes money from the sell of hard drives, two is for security purposes, and on the second one I'm not sure it helped much because the Xbox 360 is probably the easiest console to hack out of the current gen consoles, probably because it so closely resembles a PC. All of that and a huge power brick that has only gotten a little smaller than what the release consoles had.

Probably the main reason they have not redesigned the console is due to the use of a proprietary hard drive.

there are quite a few things they can do such as improve the fans, use better quality parts and redesign the casing. They don't have to make it bigger necessarily, they just need to change the position of the things that are inside or improve the quality of the materials that compose the 360.

at the end of the day it's broke and they need to fix it, but I guess if they were going to do that they would have already.

In the real world what you said makes plenty of sense. Unfortunately we're talking the world of business here. Better parts mean higher manufacturing cost which is obviously off of Microsofts radar.

The failure rate has had very little impact where the 360 is concerned. I bought one(Arcade Jasper SKU) knowing the situation. People love the machine so much that the concern for them isnt the fact that MS sold them a faulty piece of hardware but rather how soon can they get they get it back after it bricks and its sent off for repair. In ALOT of cases its wash, rinse, repeat. This is a trend that MS is clearly aware of and they know they dont have to fix a damn thing, just ship out another box and all is forgiven til it happens again. Mine has never failed but that probably due to the fact that I beat Gears 2 and havent really touched it since but I put it back in the box so it remains in tact.

MS has found a loop hole in successfully selling faulty products this gen just as Sony found a way to do it last gen. The only difference is Sony opted to fix it whilst MS prefers to pretend that it doesnt exist and if their own fan base isnt being vocal about it then why should they? Mention RROD around your average 360 gamer and see how defensive they become. Go figure.

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yeah I guess you are right, it's a useless argument if most people don't care. Just send me another one when you get the chance ok, lol

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

Underrated comment. I used to hate that game so much that any time my siblings asked me to play it, I just picked Hom and shut myself down mid-match.

It should be free highway for him now.. but Sony are too stupid to see this, especially that moron Hulst

He would've done the same thing and fire Jim Ryan and Shuhei would be the villain. Why?
Because Elite creates the narrative and distraction for gamers, users and citizens.

Yep. Yoshida was responsible for bringing one of the best games of this generation to playstation (Stellar Blade). He is an actual gamer and is in touch with what gamers want (creative, fun games, not GaaS and agenda pushing). He also seems like a genuinely nice guy if you watch some interviews. Of course they got rid of him.

Microflop. After Windows XP and Xbox 360, it all went floppy.