I totally agree that Live keeps those games going. The online multiplayer component is a huge selling point. The same could be said about the last two COD games, KZ2, Resistance 2 and World of Warcraft without their online components.

Meh...another RROD article....it seems N4G can never get enough of these.

"Does that give Microsoft a pass? Not on your nelly. Come on Microsoft, play the game and get your hardware act together. I honestly cannot imagine any other manufacturer of any other hardware in any other genre surviving this kind of failure rate".

The stupid idiot dosen't know its people like him is the reason why MS will never fix this problem and why MS has gotten away with it.

Honestly,alot of people have bought 2 or more x360 because of its hardware failure. Why would MS want to stop this?. To top it off 96% of x360 owners don't care about the hardware failures. Why should MS care then?. Why spend more money to fix this problem and stop people from buying a spare x360?.

Are some of you actually saying you'd pay $50 a year, $5 a month - which works out to more than $50 a year - to effectively have a top-set box that lets you buy movies or use a separate movie service for another $9 a month?

nevermind that said separate service has its own top-box at a flat $100.

This is all the same info regurgitated in a blog. At any rate the poll lacked creditability outside of n4g anyway.

JOY

-Precisely. How can a survey that includes random gamers, which includes fanboys, be accurate? PS3 fanboys are just going to lie and say that they had the RROD, even if they never had the 360 at all. There are millions of PS3 fanboys all over the net doing exactly that.-

the article's a blog.

http://www.itpro.co.uk/blog...

The fact that the xbox 360 radicals can't see that this is a postive article about the 360 or the fact that they can't figure out that it's NOT talking about the 54% specifically, but about the GAMES for the system.

It's really pointless around here. It's liking trying to hold conversations with a log in the backyard.

What I can't figure out is if it's on purpose.

I blame it on the continually shortening attention span of people.

Look, he is singing the praises of the 360 here because of it's games! He's willing to put up with shoddy hardware because he likes what MS has done in terms of the games....

Just amazing... sad, but amazing... *smh*

I know, hilarious. They just see 54% and then they go wild without checking the article lol!.

What is even funnier is that people like CWMR is claiming that its PS fanboys that rigged the poll. What people like him forgets is that 96% of x360 owners polled basically said they are ok with the hardware issues. This is not what PS fanboys would have said but something like this guy that wrote the article would have said.

I think plenty of people play Gears and Halo for the story and single player campaigns. After all, not everyone who owns a 360 subscribes to Xbox Live. There are millions of people out there who don't play multiplayer games and to think their voices shouldn't be heard is absurd

Godmars290: Again and again we have to say splitting purchases into months is not fair. Like saying why not buy a PS3 for so many amazing features when it came out for $600. It's just less than $2 a day for a year.

"So, given my own poor experience with the Xbox 360 have I stopped playing? No. Have I vowed never to buy another Xbox? No. In fact, despite all the problems with the hardware it has one thing going for it that is like a drug to games players: games. Yep, the games just keep me coming back for more. In fact, my Sony PS3 sees more use as the family Blu-ray player than it does for actual game-play it has to be said. My view seems to tally with the Game Informer survey as only 3.8 percent of Xbox 360 owners said that enough was enough and hardware failures meant they were giving up on the console.

Does that give Microsoft a pass? Not on your nelly. Come on Microsoft, play the game and get your hardware act together"

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the guy likes his 360 the most ... he even says he uses his ps3 mostly for blu ray ... but he wants ms to fix the 360's ... whats the problem here ?... we all know this dont we... 360 has superb games and an outstanding service yet the hardware is unreliable ... just like us he wants ms to fix it... you trolls need to get a life .. seriously

I'm not talking about a console, I'm talking about a service. Specifically XBL, Which cost either $50 - rounded up - for 12 months, or $5 a month. Most times when the yearly cost is brought up, the usual reply is that it can be paid monthly.

And while I can say its stupid to buy a 360 and get a Gold subscription with Netflix on top of that just to watch movies, download them in HD, I could say at one point paying $600 for a PS3 just to watch movies in HD was worth it since there there were standalone players costing $1000. That at $300 now, as a movie and game player, the PS3 is a better deal than just a BR movie player.

You can't say the same to someone just into movies with the 360.

The problem is, he is part of the problem. Don't you see it?. He agrees with the 96% of respondent that are ok with the hardware issues and then he goes on to ask MS to fixed the hardware issue?. The poor idiot dosen't see that he is contradicting himself and he is part of the problem.

Ask yourself. Why the heck should MS fix the hardware issue if 96% of respondents say they are ok with hardware issue?. This is where the problem is. As long as the majority of x360 owners are ok with the x360 hardware issues. MS will never fix it. I can't believe i had to explain this.

them failure rate numbers are fabricated divide all them by 10. The PS3 and Wii failure rates are under 1% and the 360 never went over 20%. Now with new hardware its around 5%.

It's not an RROD article. It's an RROD article article.

Stupidity is oozing out of your posts.

you said lol like 3 times yet nothings funny.........

"The real failure rate is actually less than 1%."

Yeah....right and PS3's real failure rate is -50%.

This is a guy in need of serious attention, report him and move on.

lol are you serious 1% you need to go back to school because that is just retarded even if the number bloated it is way over 1% you are the definition of dumb fanboy m.i.t right you went to m.i. t if that is the case m.i.t need to be shut down

Lmfao, are you f*cking kidding me Mr. Controversy? Heaven forbid the PS3 has a failure rate this alarming and consumers were still buying them. 360 faithfuls wouldn't let this down for a second.

STOP EXCUSING MICROSOFT FOR FAULTY HARDWARE OR THEY WILL PLAY YOU FOR FOOLS EACH TIME.

Screw this crap, I'm gonna play me some Virtua Fighter 5 and Wolfenstein.

-According to the same survey the PS3 has a more than 10% failure rate, which is way above the accepted standard for electronics devices. Where is the outrage over that? Not to mention it isn't even covered by a 3 year warranty.-

If 360 didnt have 54% failure, then 10% would be a big deal

Also I highly doubt if its true, true failure rate for the 360 might "only" be around 30-35% and ps3 around 1-3%

If you take into consideration the fact that people that have had hardware failure are more likely to participate in such a poll, then it's a logical conclusion that the percentages for each console are jacked up at least somewhat. And the PS3 has been on the market long enough to pretty much demonstrate that a 10% failure rate isn't really reflective of what's going on in the real world (we've all seen articles discussing the failure rates of all systems, haven't we now?).

The take home point here is that even when scaled back to account for participation bias, the 360 still has an astoundingly high/higher failure rate.

I love the games on the 360. I dig Live. But I'm appalled by the hardware quality. Everybody should be.

"The real failure rate is actually less than 1%."

Right, and the PS3's failure rate is actually 101%, DVDs actually have more space than a Blu-Ray disc, and Too Human is TEH BESTEST GAME EVAR. /sarcasm

Off-topic: Is Wolfenstein any good, Ultimolu?

Haven't stated to play yet b/c Virtua Fighter sucked up my time but I'm playing some today.

"lol. so thats what joe dirt doesnt know.YET.
it eventually all comes out of microsofts closet. when it does, this account will be down to 1 bubble but the point was made.
Sony has banked on creating new HD experiences in a very roundabout way....ive had the original us launch ps3 and ive watched it grow for many f.w. updates. Had sony used its time towards creating smear campaigns, sony would be in a sinking boat. ps3 is the defacto winner in this console war. those that dont know yet, will eventually have to swallow a really dry piece of reality.

sony invested in game development
microsoft invested and manipulated scenarios in order to beat sony at every turn. alot of those cheats and shortcuts have already backfired and failed. What about those little secrets that have not been made public yet?

i dont know but gamers comments were:
ps3 has no games; coincidentally ps3 has more must own exclusives....obviously multiplats are counted as neutral.
lol, my all time favorite: brd is not needed.LOL.if brd is not needed.......then why O fuccing why did they create hddvd?
Naturally hddvd FAILED. miserably. even after MADE UP SALES NUMBERS, and hddvd claiming victory.remember that? so apart from playing some very impressive 1080p movies, brd is used as a game disc. another positive for the sony. a long list of positives that i wont go into detail because im sure you know already.

I was on this site as my original account("kehfghrh; which is also my tag to everything even psnid), i said ALL of this WOULD HAPPEN.lol. all of it.isnt it funny?LOL, to me it is....people like firstknight and the mart are hardly seen now, do you know who that is? I called the exact time that they would dissapear from these forums. LOL. that also happened.

funny, how "the TRUTH" is silenced. bubble eating trolls."

thiswas a year ago....lol.

I fixed the errors in your statement. You're welcome.

LOL it seems the MS onslaught is making people see the light. The PS3rd is such an epic fail it's not even funny. What a lump of junk. The games are underwhelming and the hardware is the most abominal electronic in the HISTORY of gaming. There's just too much fail in everthing Sony does, it's actually getting quite pathetic now.

u totally avoided 1.4.

im not surprised that you are in denial though angrytypingguy

Sorry to disappoint you. I didn't even read 1.4, but I'll humor you with a response:

"Sony has banked on creating new HD experiences in a very roundabout way....ive had the original us launch ps3 and ive watched it grow for many f.w. updates. Had sony used its time towards creating smear campaigns, sony would be in a sinking boat. ps3 is the defacto winner in this console war. those that dont know yet, will eventually have to swallow a really dry piece of reality." -- MS has too. Look at what the 360 experience was like at launch and look how much it has grown. MS has shown more growth and attention to their Live service than Sony has with PSN.

"sony invested in game development
microsoft invested and manipulated scenarios in order to beat sony at every turn. alot of those cheats and shortcuts have already backfired and failed. What about those little secrets that have not been made public yet?" -- Sony does have better game development. MS does what it needs to to make up for it. They have their share of exclusives, and often better ones at that. Their game development will increase with time.

"i dont know but gamers comments were:
ps3 has no games; coincidentally ps3 has more must own exclusives....obviously multiplats are counted as neutral.
lol, my all time favorite: brd is not needed.LOL.if brd is not needed.......then why O fuccing why did they create hddvd? " -- It's a matter of opinion as to which console has more must own exclusives. If I liked the PS3's lineup more, I'd get a PS3. I prefer the 360's so I'll stick with it. BluRay was Sony's baby. MS didn't have as much of an invested interest in HD-DVD. Sony should be grateful to MS for not building in HD-DVD with the 360...otherwise there would be more HD-DVD players in homes and it would've won the format war. Now you may find this hard to believe, but I'm glad they didn't, because I think BluRay is the superior format.

There, I responded to his dopey comment. Happy?