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PES 2010: introducing the online mode

Konami has released new screens showing the first impressions from the online mode of Pro Evolution Soccer 2010.

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Hanif-8766112d ago (Edited 6112d ago )

I'm sure you haven't tried the game yet, so how do you know its gonna lag? i say try it before talk about something you know nothing about.

The_Devil_Hunter6112d ago

I say how does it feel being a fan to a game that always comes in second after fifa...ouch. Still lets see what Konami has in store for FIFA 10 this year.

Handsome_Devil6112d ago

really !!! gameplay wise fifa is nothing to PES

Baka-akaB6112d ago (Edited 6112d ago )

@ xXDevil-HunterXx

I dont know maybe you could tell us how it feels to get sucker punched every year , even when PES experienced it's worst offering and year ? (please do check sales before answering ... please do .. or dont bother answering)

You could also share how it feels to see fifa take 10 years to finally become playable ?

Maybe this year in fifa , who knows players wont run little rabbit with no fatigue whatsoever . And maybe being ripped off for tranferts updates (yet without even a final and last summer one beyond may lol) without real options to mod the game , wont leave a sour aftertaste this year too ..

unicronic6112d ago

The word lag is used because in all likelihood, PES10's online mode will be gimped out of the box just like 08 & 09 were.

PES08 was pretty much the worst current gen experience online and was NEVER fixed and PES09 was not much better.

In the meantime FIFA is managing to offer 10v10 online with minimal lag. Konami are playing catch up at this point sadly.

That being said nothing would make me happier that seeing PES return to glory. It's just unlikely to happen.

Baka-akaB6112d ago

It's true but judging to current infos , it's likely to change for the better . To wih point remains just to be seen .

08 and 09 were pretty much the same crappy beast that shouldnt have been released while they were getting ready for their true next gen offering . 2010 has already proven with past infos and today's flood that it's definitely a new game and better this time .

XboxBoy6112d ago

Haha..really PES is $hit. Which is why FIFA sells way better than PES having PES be cheaper doesnt help Konamis sells, everyone knows Fifa is king.

dazzalfc6112d ago

"In the meantime FIFA is managing to offer 10v10 online with minimal lag. Konami are playing catch up at this point sadly."

Fifa is also offering the chance for everyone to cheat online using the 'dreamteam' glitch that now plagues the entire online side of it. And from experience of Fifa 09 on both the PS3 and Xbox, i would hardly say it is a lag free experience. Nor would i say that 10 v 10 is a brilliant mode. Yes, every football game should have it in my eyes, but every single one i've played has been near awful. Not everyone has headsets so communicating instructions fails, everyone cannot stick in the position they are meant to be. Its like watching 8 year olds play football, you know, where one lumps it and they all go running after it.

Fifa's 'improvements' are only highlighted by PES stumbling back over the past two versions. Fifa had alot to improve on, and it did with Fifa 08 and Fifa 09. PES just needed a tweak or two in terms of looks and the Master League and investment in securing the licences that made Fifa popular. And instead, it went a step backwards. Both are at a similar point in terms of quality wise (both are very good football games) and both bring two different variations in gameplay. I think there's plenty of improvement from both Konami and EA, and PES 2010 certainly looks like it is back on track, certainly compared to the last few efforts.

I look forward to hopefully getting my hands on this at GamesCon

Baka-akaB6112d ago

@Xboxboy

Nvm the first crap ... more importantly Fifa 09 didnt sell better check again .
Worldwide sales of PES 2009 were at least of 8.5 millions all platforms and regions accounted .

It's easy to check and even accounted for in konami's sales figures reports .

While during the same timeframe Fifa 09 sold between 1 and 1.5 millions less (7.8 millions around march) .

It's a deadlock now , with Pes 2010 and fifa 2010 around , both game's sales wont jump around anymore .

Got it ? despite negativity among the press or obscures forums , people couldnt care less , they either found PES better in gameplay or were lured by the brand .
Despite finally some solid effort and improvement , fifa still couldnt beat PES at it's lowest .

Now that Konami got it's act together , they even less likely to come out above this time as well ... unless of course some (well deserved) backlash for 09 happens .

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redDevil876112d ago

Well going by the previous two Pro games online it won't be surprising if theres laaaaaag. Even pro online on the ps2 didn't lag like this when i played it. If Konami really want to please the fans please make the online more stable

Baka-akaB6112d ago

Most of the prob was their stubborness . like with Metal gear , they hosted the games on their own , along with the Konami ID crap .

Now they are back to PSN and XBl properly , wich is pretty much certain be better . again in what capacity remains to be seen , but it actually cant get worse .

KilZoneGeneralStrife6112d ago

I loved the Pro Evo soccer franchise until... Fifa08... ,at that point. . .Pes was playing catchup.I got Fifa09. .and will get Fifa10.. Question is,should I buy PES this year too? We'll hafta see if its broken or not. . . . . ,I have to say it. fifa just has the best club football though,everything licenced,its beaautiful.Arsenal4LIFE Gunner4EVER ,did ya see the 6-1 victory to Everton? Awesomeness!

Wh15ky6112d ago

I migrated to FIFA 09 last year after the fiasco that was Pro Evo 08, but I definately won't be buying FIFA 10. I only played FIFA 09 for a month before it was relegated to the shelve just to gather dust.
I owned Pro Evo 2-6 on PS2 and what was always gauranteed was I would still be playing each one right up until the next one was released.

Unless Konami have given Pro Evo a complete overhaul and everything has improved as a result this will be the first year I have not bought a football title since buying my PS1.

Mozilla896112d ago (Edited 6112d ago )

I can't get enough of FIFA online, its smooth for the most part and I haven't run into the the dream team glitch talked above. The only thing that needs to be fixed is the goalie coming out before kick off so people dont score from half way.

I've never played PES before, so I'm curious. What makes PES so much better than FIFA 09 or 10?

Baka-akaB6112d ago (Edited 6112d ago )

it's a preference thingy . Indeed pes 08 and 09 have been crap for numerous reasons , graphics , at time faulty IA , most of online , and of course the usual not as many licences as FIfA issue .

But the game had 3-4 saving graces .

See fifa got lots of beautiful animations that should be de facto standards (and seems to become one looking at how pes is following suit) and lots of tricks and special moves . While pes has a variety of essential moves and animations , but obviously limited compared to fifa

My problem is , despite numerous improvement , it doesnt feel right . Far too much of it is scripted , amost automatic , you dont feel the player or the weigh of the ball . And not always in full control .
I also feel that it's to easy to snatch the ball , the ball physics is often weird and too often in the air (while at the same time PES 09 's ball was damn to stuck into the ground , even if partially fixed through patches) .

I also hate how there is no fatigue at all in the game . You can really do 90min with the same guys , even with low level teams . Not to mention that you can dribble past anyone far too easy with one guy , usually the star forward of the team .

While PES is currently too fast paced , Fifa is too slow imo .

Finally i feel that every player is far too skilled , despite their stats or positions . I shouldnt be able to attack that well or do that many offensive tricks with defense .

I opposition i feel that while awfully flawed , pes 09 still retained an enjoyable gameplay , later on enhanced with patch .
Also the license thing wasnt really an issue when right from the satart there were so many available mods and patches to get the right rosters for each team , or to create missing teams ...

Finally Fifa's career and edit mode werent good enough . Both were in pes a game in the game enough , and a great enough one , to get beyond the nightmare of online and IA troubles

Fifa got some good quality though , but sadly to me , all of them are surface extra fluff while the core gameplay isnt really good . So i'm quite happy with a game i prefer taking the missing extras such as tactics gliders , animations and presentation from Fifa .

After that to each their own , but with actual changes and improvements , thanks to fifa and ideas of their own , PES isnt going anywhere

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Pro Evolution Soccer - Nevermind eh?

TPV Writer Tom Writes: "A carefully reasoned and informed discussion. With myself. And who knows? This analysis might give FIFA some much needed credibility (not that I over estimate my writing powers at all), because let’s be honest, Sep Blatter is so crooked, he sleeps on a spiral staircase. So corrupted, Microsoft Word can’t open him. You get the picture, but don’t worry Mr Blatter. Here to help."

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curtis3945420d ago

Haha... Pes feels far more arcadey than Fifa, So I guess you are right there ;)

news4geeks5420d ago

"In reality, Lionel Messi is the perfect poster boy for Pro Evo. He personifies everything this game is. Flashy, annoying as hell, and overrated."

Well I already hated this article before I read this part but that was icing on the hate cake. Pretty much everything he said was unjustified.

Jonmau55420d ago

Offended so easily? Everything is justified with his reasons and guess what you get from an opinion article? A motherfunking opinion....

Louis_Guzman5420d ago

Wow, someones mad, lol. Btw, Fifa is a joke and so is this site.

Anderson85420d ago

lol in what way is messi overrated?... next you'll be telling me scott parker is the best player in the world

8bit_Nes_Rambo5420d ago (Edited 5420d ago )

Brought to you by EA games. I take it PES somehow beat this kid up and stole his lunch money?

Jonmau55420d ago

Nope he just thinks PES Is poor compared to Fifa.... which it is.

8bit_Nes_Rambo5420d ago

Cool bro. I think Fifa is crap compared to PES. Opinions are funny like that.

kza5420d ago

PES is way better u fifa players are NOOBS!!

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PES 2011 patch is live | Details revealed

The latest patch for PES 2011 is now available to download on 360, PS3 and PC. PS3 and Xbox 360 users as normal and PC users should be able to access the patch by selecting online mode, and your default browser will open with a download link.

Konami have reported that the patch adjusts the defender AI to allow for more consistent pressing from various situations and includes a series of alterations based on feedback from users.

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10 great looking games the critics slammed

Sadly, the old adage that beauty is only skin deep can easily be applied to some of this generations' video game releases. Megabits of Gaming looks at 10 titles that have split opinion...

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Philoctetes5696d ago

Yes, it looks great, but with 94% on Metacritic, I don't think it's quite accurate to say that it got "slammed" by critics. Even with the cutscenes, it's still one of the best games of this generation.

hay5696d ago

True. And only fanboys slammed the game.

Chubear5696d ago (Edited 5696d ago )

most of those games were critically acclaimed. They weren't "slammed" O.o

Also don't know how Haze is on that list. Haze was a very decent shooter and though it's graphics were good they weren't not at all "great". Haze graphics was essentially 7th or 8th gen games on the PS2 done in HD

If any game should be on that list it's Lair. Slammed for EVERYTHING and lunatic rabid fanatics (and some reviewers) called its graphics PS2 or PS1 "with water looking like sand"

Crazy. All I know is, there are many "AAA" multiplat titles today that still don't put Lair, a 1st gen game, to shame graphically talkless of technically cause most multiplat games with this much stuff happening on screen with these kind of graphics would chugg like madness.

http://www.gametrailers.com...

Please, show me these released multiplat games (or even exclusives on other gaming consoles) of recent time that has display this kind of chaos both on the ground and in the air.

http://www.gametrailers.com...

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morganfell5696d ago (Edited 5696d ago )

MGS4 still stands for me as the greatest game I have ever played. A culmination of 2 decades of masterful storytelling. As regards the play time, most reviewers put the actual non-cutscene game time beyond the length of the majority of current titles.

What is even more perplexing is the sophomoric comprehension of reviewers that failed to realize they were playing a game by Hideo Kojima. And a Metal Gear game at that. Many reviewers were simply ignorant of the series nor could they grasp Kojima's unique presentation technique imbued with his personality.

If you fail to realize the context of a title then you shouldn't be reviewing it. If you are unable to critique a work based upon the acceptance and expectations of the audience for whom it was made then you should shuffle along to another game.

Pokemon isn't a bad game...or a good game in my mind as I know nothing about it. I am ambivalent toward the series and as such know I should never offer my views on the title.

As regards the visuals, much of what was done in MGS4 has never been surpassed.

Man In Black5696d ago

The plot was kind of a let down. I hate how a lot of stuff was explained as being caused by nanomachines (Liquid Ocelot, Vamp, etc), and Acts 3-5, in terms of gameplay, were way too short.

Act 3 was pretty shit for the most part (follow some guy, bike chase, boss fight, and that's it), while the spider bots pissed me off in Act 4. The start of Act 5 was great, it reminded me of the older games, but it didn't last very long.

King-Leonidas5696d ago (Edited 5696d ago )

Agreed with every word you said. Mgs4 is such a master piece that fanboy´s tiny brains couldnt comprehend its greatness.

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did you notice that most of those games are developed by the Japanese?

DaTruth5696d ago

The first review I saw for MGS4 was surprisingly from Eurogamer(track record with PS3 exclusives). "BEST GAME EVER!!!", I think was how it started. Needless to say, 10/10.

MGS3 turned me off of MGS series(camo system pissed me off). So when I saw the Octo-camo, I was back in it and was the defining moment of next gen.

Prior next-gen games looked good, but MGS4 just had it all!

acky15695d ago (Edited 5695d ago )

I thought the nanomachines explanations were great... it kept things grounded more in real life as nano-technology might be possible to do some of the things from MGS in the future.

MGS4 has to be my favourite game ever after more than 10 years of playing and replaying the franchise. Was perfect for me in almost every way.

Man In Black5695d ago

Thing is, they used nanomachines for practically everything, to the point where it started to become ridiculous.

King-Leonidas5695d ago

but think about it man in black, it would make sense to implement nano machines in soldiers on the future. They are very advanced technologicaly.

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ProjectVulcan5696d ago

Crysis is another that didnt get slammed. It got excellent reviews. True enough on release back in 2007, the fastest graphics in the world was an 8800 ultra. It cost 300 pounds. Crysis squashed it badly. But tech moves on quickly for PC, and 120 pounds three years on buys you a card thats twice as fast as an 8800 ultra, perfectly capable of coping with crysis.

Im pretty confident this time will be different with crysis 2, and although i expect it to challenge the fastest cards, i suspect it wont maul them nearly as bad as the original did with 2007 hardware.

GWAVE5696d ago

It didn't get slammed by critics (for the most part), but the vast majority of console gamers wrote it off as "that one PC game that has crappy gameplay and is all about teh grafix".

Naturally, they changed their tune once Crysis 2 was announced for consoles.

FragGen5696d ago (Edited 5696d ago )

I went out and bought Haze used when I first got my PS3 after playing the demo not being aware of any of the hype. It was a fun game, IMHO, if you didn't take it too seriously. Having only paid $10 for it, I was super happy with it. :)

I guess if I had been aware of the hype I might have been disappointed. But then again maybe not, because to me, "Halo Killer" does not set the bar that high, I think Halo is terribly overrated. :) I've probably logged as many hours on Haze as I have Halo 3 on my 360. LOL.

tacosRcool5696d ago

MGS4 is a great game but people are gonna find something wrong with it and complain about it

Kon_Artist 5696d ago

take mgs4 off before i chop u up

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versusALL5696d ago

Why the hate for Final Fantasy XIII, I for one think it was one of the best games this gen, I love the story, the characters, the world, and the graphics of course.

DelbertGrady5696d ago

Very random list. Since when is Naughty Bear a "great looking game"?

KiRBY30005696d ago

MW2 is not a great looking game and didnt get slammed by the critics. this article makes no sense whatsoever.

naughty ber a great looking game = EPIC FAIL statement

SexyPrawns5696d ago

MW2 IS a great looking game.

Go play it.

Corrwin5696d ago

It was ok for a shooter, but it certainly wasn't a looker when released. The models were next-gen but the flat environments and low res textures certainly weren't!

Hades13375696d ago

Games like FFXIII, MW2, MGS4 etc. were not "slammed" by critics, look at their review scores.

I hate the perception of the video game review system. It seems like games scored below 90% are "average".

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