I haven't shat right this whole generation thanks to EA and Activision.

No DLC, better or worse.

The fact that there is no way that another 10 tracks are going to drop for Mario Kart kinda sucks

I remember when games were "complete", for better and for worse.

Nintendo, for all their faults, aren't milking consumers with DLC for anything (storage issue aside). You buy the game and it's done.

Capcom are the worst, simply because they're charging for costumes for SFIV, leaving unlockables definitely in the cupboard.

I'm gonna say yes but just because if you want the full experience for some games you have to pay upwards of $100 (Fallout 3, GTA 4) etc.

DLC needs a major pricing adjustment, $10 for 3-4 new maps is pretty insane when you factor in that nearly every game you own has or will have DLC at one point.

Yes, with the exception of the theoretical Rock Band 'platform' model. Since that never actually happened.. Just yes.

I never thought of them as "DLC" Just down loadable expansions. I mean we weren't whining about expansion packs and the such. Why are we whining about it now that its disc-less and more convenient?
Oh wait...that's gaming journalism....whining

DLC is a nice idea on paper but developers just abuse it and turn it into a new way to make a quick buck.

"Oh we can release this game broken on time and then fix it later? Lets do that"

"Oh we can remove some of these maps and sell them later for an additional fee? Lets do that"

I don't even want to know how much I, and the rest of the world has spent on DLC that was originally on the game.

**********A perfect example of DLC abuse is Resident Evil 5's multiplayer. It was on the disc, they removed it, and sold it back to players.

UNQUESTIONABLE HELL YES IT WAS

DLC has just ushered in an era of games cut short only to be charged later for it. DLC is all about $$$ for the developers, NOT the gamers.

I have purchased 1 DLC item (Warhawk map pac) and will not purchase others for any system

I mean...every time I purchase a new game I always have that fear...what DLC will it be....regardless, some DLC is legit such as Fallout 3's, but how in the hell is Vs. Mode in RE5 a DLC! That should have came with the game....

Yeah the developers will tell us it was to big for the disk...but how much can we believe...it's a cut throat buisness out there! As the amount of DLC starts to go up...I start losing faith in my $60 I paid originally for the game.

Such as Fallout stuff, Lost & the Damned, Shivering Isles, etc. Horse armor, costumes, maps that were already made, should be free. I can understand new maps made a year after launch being cheap, but what they did with RE5 was plain robbery.

The convenience of DLC is great, and I don't mind spending money on it if it is for genuine new items, or content. Basically, if used right, it can be a good thing.

I wonder, what I do with horse armor?

A game like Castlevaina Symphony of the night having been released this gen, look at DLC...

-Upside down castle 9.99, explore the exciting and misterious Dracula castle, this time upside down with new enemies and weapons. Only for 9.99, get the complete castlevania SotN experience!

-Alucard's Sword 1.99, the games most powerful weapon, use it to vanish the evil night.

-Axe armor 4.99, explore the castle in this true challenging for hardcore gamers that live in basements mode, you only get to play as Axe Armor.

-Ritcher mode 4.99, got what it takes to beat this game a la old school, using only your trusty whip? this is the true old school gamer experience, including leaderboards and rankings.

Ok, Konami hire me now, I think I know how to make some money for ya.

Aye was it

I prefered the days when down the line you could expect a fantastic expanison pack. For example MGS:Substance, MGS:Subsistance, Age of Empires:Conquerers and so forth. We used to get some awesome expansion packs but now we just get an overpriced multiplayer map that should have been in the game in the first place. On top of that it has zero value since it doesn't come in hard copy.

besides full games and demos dlc blows and we dont get full games

DLC is just a cheap way to rack in some extra cash.

DLC is a dvd thing. Sony has the bluray for these devs but why work harder when you can work less? Thats why alot of devs pretend they dont know about the extra space on a bluray. Sony gave you the moves now you gotta play them. vote with your wallets.

I think DLC is a good and bad thing, it depends on hows its used, I like the idea of buying extra content a little while after the release of the original game, for example the DLC's for Grand Theft Auto IV, Rockstar already released a full game then they started working on their DLC, but other developers are trying to rob us of our money by having content on the day of the release of the game or just a little after and then expect you to pay for it, its even more annoying if its already on the disc, for example the Resident Evil 5 multiplayer DLC, the download was just a few kilobyte which means it was already on the disc of the game and then they expected us to pay for what should have already been accessible! So in conclusion, yes and no, DLC can be either, it just depends on how its used!

Saving Ideas for a later date is complete bull$hit. (not to mention they charge you for it.)

They should always put every single idea they can think of on their retail game, and if after that game has shipped, if they want to start working on additional content(ideas they just thought of) then I would welcome it.

Greed sucks, and always will suck, and btw screw you Mr kotick

DLC in theory is great. In practice, 99% of it is overpriced things that should have already been on the disc.

Hard to say, since it really depends on the developer/publisher. Some overcharge for minor additions while others spends months creating additions that add hours of playability to their game.

DLC that the devs spend time and money preparing is fine.

However pulling bullshit like capcom and charging for stuff ALREADY ON THE DISC is complete crap.

Sadly games are not made with hard work and attention from the devs anymore. They all use the same friggin engine and they all take shortcuts in hope of making more money.

I remember a time when games came out finished and were enjoyable, colorful and FUN! Now there just eye candy with a few good games shining through(MGS4) the crap. This generation sucks.

cheaper.

Gaming was because we had full games. You would actually have to play the games to unlock the stuff, now companies like EA and Song have the pay for unlock DLC, which makes it easier to just pay little extra and have it all. You also have companies who ship half assed games and then try to say that it was an unknown bug and thats why patchs happen. Never had that problem with PS2/xbox/game cube because the quality testing was there.

I am a very big fan of Microsoft, but I will never be biased just to support my fanboyism. That would be stupid. I'm quite suprised this hasn't stirred more of an argument amongst marketplace users. I really really believe that Microsoft prices most of the content above or below for sinister reasons. I'll give you an example. Recently I wanted to purchase the maps for Halo 3. The maps were priced at maybe 600 and 800 microsoft points. Instead of being able to purchase exactly 1400 microsoft points, I had to purchase the 1000 microsoft points bundle and then 500 microsoft points bundle. Here's where it gets tricky. After purchasing the maps let's just say that I now have 100 points left over. Now I'm wondering to myself what do I do with these left over points. Oh, guess what? There's virtually
nothing on Live that's valued at 100 points. Even a theme will run you 140 points. The point I'm trying to make here is that everything is priced the way it is so that buying content will always leave you with left over microsoft points from every purchase. If you wanted to buy content you will always be forced to buy one of the four bundles of microsoft points regardless of how many you really need to make a purchase. It will be an ongoing cycle inwhich you will always get the feeling that if you don't use the points that are left over, it may feel like wasted money. I like Microsoft, but that's pretty damn sinister if you ask me.

My argument there wasnt to try take away their rights to make the game or that it leads to real rape. I just thought the developers themselves need to make more responsible decisions about whats appropriate, and that it makes gaming look bad. I got attacked because people thought I wanted to take their rights away or some ridiculous sh@t. They said "if you dont like it dont buy it" over and over again.

And now people attack DLC and completely ignore their own advice.

Funny that they ignore something that would primarily negatively affect women, but the second they think a ripoff DLC is released they get their pitchforks.

Not before DLC, no. DLC has good potential and extends the gameplay for the games we love to play.

Gaming was better before CONSOLE GAMES started receiving patches, though.

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DLC is great for the game companies and 100% annoying for gamers. Whenever i talk myself into buying a new map pack... two days later... another map pack is available. WTF!

Tell me again how the multiplatform strategy was supposed to fix everything. Look at your results and compare them to Nintendo, which keeps thriving with exclusives. Your loyal fans are gone. And let’s not forget the pile of IPs you purchased only to let them rot.

The worst thing is this is down from last years numbers/expectations which was down from the previous years numbers/expectations. You think about how long “down” has been a consistent part of the communication and you realize those subscriptions are what’s holding that boat together. The price cut of gamespass is still a price raise in a string of price raises. They are trying to use players to offset the missing revenue. Now call of duty is out of gamespass, which is literally WHY they bought the company. To draw people to the subscription. They realized they missed a boatload of money and that wasn’t sustainable. Now you pay for it like you would have if they never bought the company… so why buy the company? Mind you those billions still need to be paid back. Yeah it gives you a chance to say we make the biggest FPS… but the internal conversations must be brutal at high level on topics that really matter. Like revenue. Profitability. And ROI for the shopping spree.

Is this like the 10th quarter in a row they're down 33% on hardware how is that even mathematically possible. You would think their mediocrity would Plateau