You're taking the piss,surely?

I guess he is talking about the iPhone 3GS?

The 2&3G one or the 3GS?
There is a big difference between the first 2 and the new one

http://www.anandtech.com/ga...

Im not trying to defend it or be biased either way, but the iPhone is much more expensive than the Wii and the Wii is a few years old now, so the technology is much older than the iPhone, you may as well say that my Samsung Tocco Lite is more powerful than a ZX Spectrum, although true it means nothing because its much newer technology!

that whole thing about HD graphics was wrong. I think Black for the original xbox looked better. Which is just sad. Hell, even Red Steel looks better! Why do people think that game is any good any ways? Its just your average boring shooter. Its sad when a phone has more power then a console :(

"iPhone is Much More Powerful than Wii'"????
really? I thought iphone tech is more powerful than Xbox360. LOL.

This is the same guy who said the DS has the power of a toaster.
Their pr needs help

with bigger built in harddrive too.

Meh, power doesn't matter anymore according to sales. Anyways while the trolls are in glee about this statement, the developer chose the wii over your ps3/360 anyways. :\

and istrad of looking like an idiot he stood by them. The wii has alot of tricks tht can be used and dis a tech that is well used and easy to use. so getting more out of the system is easier maybe the wii is really underpowered but so easy to dev for that it makes up for it

It's not even as powerful as the PSP. If it's more powerful than the Wii, then why does Resident Evil 4 look MUCH better on the Wii?

That's a pretty bold claim...
Wait a second, if apple can make a cell phone more powerful than the wii, does this mean that if they were to make a console that it would be more powerful than the ps3?

Well they both are overhyped garbage.

(goes back to play No More Heroes)

RE4 IPHONE : http://mrpoulpe.files.wordp...
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RE4 WII: http://img394.imageshack.us...

awesome link you have there. i knew the wii was powerful and stuff but dang that is some neat info i didnt even know about. of i knew developers are f'ing lazy on their games for the wii and stuff. hopefully more devs are getting off their asses and make some qualities games that are good for once

tunaks1 is on the money look at RE4 on both systems and tell me the iphone is more powerful telltale are telling tales muppets the wii has a TEV,S3,plus a GPU, that is comparable to 360 GPU its a fact devs that say these things are full of crap cant take the fact that ninty wont let them use bigger amounts of memory for wiiware oh proccessing true power is 1.2Ghz has the iphone got proccessor that big i seen proof on japenese site for MH3 S3 textures are imencely detailed and can look very real plus i remember CAPCOM saying they got the ps3 assets of MH3 running on wii in no time so wii =cheap dev costs which is something else SONY ect need to take note anyone can make sony/microsoft consoles they just take everyone elses tech throw it in there machine done charge the earth for it now there loosing its a fact and nintendo should bring a Wii2 out dec2010 with quadcore and HD plus make sure they add there joint patented holographic storage/hardrive/hvd tgey have with biggest in the buisness inphase tech they will then have 2 markets midend=wii ultra high end=wiiHD this would be more than twice the ps3 power convince people it will be the last console u will ever need with TB of memory ect

Chek out the tennis games like virtua 2009 or grandslam tennis and iphone games that can compete with wii. iPhone is a good phone but vs Wii , iphone sucks. I sad it because i have a wii and iPhone

DS has much more good games than iPhone i sad it before iPhone for a phone is good but for Games is on the bottom

BULL.. He's trying to make us believe that their engine is more powerfull than that of lets say Metroid Prime's? It's not the Wii's fault if they cant code for the machine. Their game is just a adventure game for crying out loud.

The title of thread itself made me LOL

An 333~600mhz Arm Cpu =/= 333-600mhz IBM PPC CPu(Especially when you consider its a 722Mhz).
They both perform different.

But whatever.

"I'd would definitely bet that the iPhone OS is more heavy duty than the wii OS, purely because it does a lot more. so therefore that extra RAM over the wii might just be there to help run the OS + applications more smoothly, and not specifically for gaming purposes. That is just a guess though."
-- somekindofmike

A good guess, I'd wager. The iPhone is an electronic swiss army knife. It's doing a LOT of stuff besides gaming. The Wii, OTOH, is completely gaming-centric. Its web browser is even ridiculously slow and clunky. The eggs are all in one basket, so to speak.

I'm sure the iPhone has a buttload of power. It just isn't concentrated for one lone task, and that's why you certainly won't see it putting out the graphics of Prime 3 or Galaxy.

Hell, they're having problems with the frame rate for Monkey Island? Call Retro studios. They managed to get Corruption's framerate LOCKED. Don't complain about a lack of power when other devs are doing just fine with it.

'iPhone is Much More Powerful than Wii', says TellTale Programmer
...
Seriously??? I wonder if this guy actually understands the words that come out of his mouth.

The only way to make this comparison is by ignoring the graphics optimization of any hardware included in the wii while being ignorant of how Nintendo does pixel shading. Opterons are server processors and overclockers (including myself) have found that those Opterons perform worse for games and graphics than the athlon64 cores they're based on, despite having double the onboard cache. The reason is that servers need good floating point calculations and so they optimize the Opterons for it, which end up killing the normal Athlon64s for FPU intensive operations. On paper as marketed, the Opteron is a faster chip due to increased cache, but this doesn't translate to graphic performance because they're two different tools designed for different jobs, just like the iphone and the wii. AMD won't handhold you while they explain this because they expect competent professionals to understand it, and if you play Homestar Ruiner on the wii you'll see that is the last phrase you'd use to describe Telltale Games (explanation included below).

This is the same situation. The wii and Gamecube use a Texture Environment Unit that is unlike most other pixel shaders. Factor5 actually bothered to sit down and use this in the Gamecube version Rogue Squadron. In the Hoth scene they get 20 million polygons running at the 60fps default for the game. It set a record for most polygons in a 6th generation title. Factor5 tried to port this to xbox and they couldn't get it to run. Try and port this to the iphone.

This was a launch title so the lack of comparable performance is more a sign of laziness or ineptitude on the part of other devs than a problem with the hardware. Now consider that the wii is much faster than a Gamecube and you'll realize that this guy is used to other platforms and can't unlock Nintendo's strongest tools. That he's speaking out of frustration because the other consoles are close enough to PCs, which the monkey island devs are used to. The fact he's claiming this when Rogue Squadron for Gamecube has been out for many years and was a launch title makes you seriously question how much effort developers spend on Nintendo. They hate it because it's slower than other systems and this can't be denied, but this is a completely irrational comparison that makes entirely no sense. It just proves he didn't play Gamecubes.

If you're used to normal pixel shaders, you won't get any performance programming the TEV the same way. This is why people said those advanced effects used in the Conduit were impossible; you have to implement them differently for use in the TEV, but then you gain more typical pixel shading functionality. Saying it's impossible is a lot easier than admitting that you might not be that awesome a programmer.

Comparing it to an iphone are the hasty words of a frustrated developer who is used to PCs. It's a total joke and more of an admission that he doesn't know how to optimize for the wii compared to other platforms. I just finished the wii port of Homestar Ruiner by Telltale games and what I'm saying is obvious if you play it. The game is extremely buggy in widescreen and often skips. How could they have messed that up except by not knowing how wii is different from PCs? It's just a change in resolution.

Homestar Ruiner even runs slow with one character (Strongbad) and every object on screen immobile except one stationary 3d object being kicked around at a time (the turtle, curdled milk, and hurdle on the track in the race to the end of the race lag). The turtle crashed my wii and during the animation and all of them would skip, so they couldn't even render one moving 3d object without lag of three in the entire game. This was not limited to my console and I read the fix of dropping out of widescreen as advice to someone having the same trouble.

Anyone who thinks that the wii can't move one 3d object because of hardware problems is obviously mistaken. A passing comparison to a Gamecube game reveals that. He's obviously frustrated at a different platform than he's used to while his finished product - openly available for inspection - reveals that his skill is the main issue.

I'm trained in this so please don't tell me he's an expert and I'm not. Just go look at Rogue Squadron and then realize there's no justifiable reason to think what he's saying. Besides, did those record setting 6th gen graphics available at launch draw anyone to the console? The "hardcore" and developers who think similarly abandoned Nintendo long ago, and anyone claiming otherwise never owned a Gamecube. n64 killed that generation and they still didn't program for it. They only blame the wii's horsepower to excuse their lack of skills, and in context of the previous two Nintendo systems the serious hate some devs have for the console. They didn't even try to justify why they didn't make n64 or Gamecube games. Now they can't shut up about the performance of the wii.

I'd give anything to have Telltale booted from wiiware so we can get some competent programmers who can animate a single 3d object spinning in the air without chopping. Or who can implement widescreen without horrible crashing and play test enough to detect these sorts of errors. But I know this won't happen. Sadly I'll have to support them for my Strongbad.

so?.....who cares!!!!!!!

and thats why the iPhone version of Resident evil 4 looks much better...(not!) ah these guys are stupid, why dont they just do their work right instead of been blaming it on hardware, baka!

Obviously the crack he's using is much more powerful than iPhone.

oh come on the wii isnt that powerful but thats just an insult