yeah, MS has their instant play movie thingy so they don't really need a blu-ray player

but then again, there is a market for blu-ray owners who want to play their discs.
i wonder if MS will alienate them for the next xbox though since consoles are trying to be the main entertainment hub

a. I have both a 360 and a PS3. The quality to a "HD" movie on the 360 doesn't even come close to the video and sound quality that blu ray provides. 360 movies are 720p an upscaled.

b. The blu-ray players that are close to $100 doesn't even have an ethernet port on it. (ie. no firmware updates)

c. It would take even more sales away from the PS3. Some people buy the PS3 just because it has a blu ray player in it.

d. I agree with you on that one.

It appears only fanboys that wouldn't be able to afford a blu ray player for their 360 are the ones that don't want one for it. Why wouldn’t you?? I mean just think they had a 360/natal/blu ray bundle next year for $299. Sony would be in real trouble.

Just my opinion fanboys. Get a job so you get afford more than one system and/or a blu ray player!

I think that the facts available about the format already establish why Blu-ray is far from being "Fail".

But a 360 blu-ray attachment is highly unlikely and unnecessary. Because of the above mentioned availability of already existing stand alone players.

If MS were to release a BD player add-on much like their earlier HD-DVD add-on, they would have to make it competitive with the current stand alone players and as we all know, making peripherals inexpensive is not Microsoft's strong point...

No, we will not be seeing a BD add-on.

why are you asking me?

they could support the hd dvd it can play game 3 game were release for it
and it would give developer more space

b/c no one would buy it. between 1080p Streams, NetflixHD, and being able to Stream BR-Rips and other HD content thru Windows Media extender or Tveristy----why would they?

And if you read the article, they explain at the end, that "no" is the answer to the question(the question that they asked to begin with meaning they answered their own question).

this article = failsville.

What about the people that want to build a collection of movies? Build a stream library?

lol. I suppose you could call it that. Netflix calls it a "que".

Xbox360 owners have been adamant from the beginning about not wanting Blu-ray and consoles being game machines not movie players.

So I'm set :) Blu-Ray is amazing! Instant 1080p is still gonna have some unwanted artifacts in it cus it's a stream. I wonder if it will have the same issues as Netflix where it detects your internet quality or distance or whatever and degrades the picture/sound. I have 12mb/s internet but Netflix streaming on my TiVo HD and 360 has a tinny high pitch sound like everyone is breathing in helium! It makes Netflix streaming useless cus I don't want to listen to chipmunks while I watch "The Fugitive".

For some reason my internet goes out during rain and snow storms and I'd hate to be watching a movie and then it rains and it's ruined. When I put in that Blu-Ray there's no worries.

Time will tell if the streaming instant 1080p looks as good as a pre-existing 1080p source such as Blu-Ray.

a) well, instant 1080p is suppose to bridge that gap albeit it will probably still have lower PQ than BR. From what I have seen though, this new streaming technology works really well and miles better than what I have seen so far.

b) well, you are talking about the lowest priced blu-ray players, but by the time a new BR player from MS arrives, a quality one probably could be had for around $100. I would rather have a stand-alone player than having it chained to my 360.

c) maybe, but the PS3 cost more. A 360 + a standalone BR player => a PS3 in cost with similar (not equivalent) benefits.

Some people might like a BR accessory, but there is hardly a large enough market for it considering the alternatives.

360 fanboys that have said "we don't want it" would change their tune if they had the option to have one (which they do now, it's just on that...OTHER system that they want to think they are beating).

"From what I have seen though, this new streaming technology works really well and miles better than what I have seen so far."

What and where did you exactly see this "streaming tech?" I just dont see how a consumer at home can stream hundreds of megabytes to watch a movie in HD. The tech you seen was prolli fully streamed already before showing it to the masses.

You are wrong and highly misinformed. Not all bluray movies are native 1080p. I repeat, NOT ALL BLURAY MOVIES ARE NATIVE 1080p, many are 1080i/720p native and then upscaled. Look at the back of your bluray movies, most say the native resolution. Ghostbusters for example could never be 1080p native because it was never recorded on a High Def camera. You can claim 7.1 and high bitrate, etc. but visually it's the same. Seriously, I watch blurays and then watch HD-HBO boxing and my experience is exactly the same for both. Now... from DVD to Bluray, there is a difference.

on topic/
Bluray exceptional? Yes. Add-on necessary for xbox 360? No.

MS had a link somewhere (I don't remember) showing silverlight technology streaming HD video with stats directly to your PC. It is all but confirmed that this is the same stuff powering the 360.

From what I saw it is works extremely well at adapting bitrate to adjust for bandwidth in real time.

If I’m not mistaken, I don't think i said "all" blu-rays are native 1080p. I said streamed movies on my 360 which I have, don't hold a candle to my blu ray movies, which I also have.

Also, using an example like Ghostbusters that came out in 1984 isn't a good example when comparing streamed 360 movies to blu ray. You should be comparing any Pixar movie, Pirates of the Caribbean Trilogy, Knowing, Band of Brothers, Transformers, etc to determine a difference. The streamed movies from 360 aren't even close to blu ray pitcher quality and don't even make me talk about the sound difference!! However it all depends on your TV. You must have a high refresh rate and contrast ratio on you 1080p TV to really get the most out of your blu ray player.

Never will they do such a thing. Instead they will support HVD in their next console. A format that can play Blu-Ray discs.

Kigmal... that's all well and good. But if it's (in your words)"a gaming console, not a movie player", then why in the hell does it have Netflix streaming and their own video store?

*sigh* SMH

It sure seems to me that MS would like it to be more than just "a gaming console".

@ kigmal

Then please explain the now defunct HD-DVD add on that is now garbage that MS released and why they are so strongly pushing netflix?

...maybe what kigmal meant to say is its a GAMING CONSOLE FIRST, AND A MOVIE PLAYER SECOND.

What attracted 360 owners was the games and XBL. But yes, MS has thrown in some "bells and whistles" b/c they want to be able to deliver more than just games. Its called "being competitive", or something like that, lol.

What Arthur said. I should of rephrased what I said. My bad.