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Should Left 4 Dead 2 Be Free?

Adam Sessler, Morgan Webb and Mr Sark discuss whether 'L4D2' qualifies as a new game or whether it should be considered 'Left 4 Dead' DLC, and thus, be free to players.

qface646160d ago

i wouldn't go so far as to say it should be free

personally im against LF42 if its a full 60 dollar game
if its cheaper than 60 though then its alright with me

xwabbit6160d ago

I already got it free so I'm gewd

Jinxstar6160d ago (Edited 6160d ago )

The big problem that the petitioners mention is thus. They fear it will split the community because valve have said they are "Separate games" if they made it so you could integrate the 2 with all the enemies/heroes and such the fans would not be AS upset as they are. Also yes they feel they are milking the fans that support them. G4 totally misses the main point of the petitioners and thats spliting the community. Also lack of support for past games because seriously L4D was a good 2 hour game. The online was alright for a bit... More support was needed. I mean has the 360 version even gotten any DLC. I really am asking because I have the PC version. it just feels like they are kinda boning the people who support them and expect the same support back. Modders and everyone else in the community who have built all new content are going to feel like it was a waste of time in many ways...

It really should be DLC/add on. Make it high priced DLC but integrate the 2...

Edit: @ disagrees. Really? What did I say that was Fanboyish or wrong? Really? Was it because I bought the PC version? The fact that I have a lot of friends from my old MMO days who love TF2 and L4D and only play on PC?

Watch last weeks invisible walls. Marcus beer goes into detail on why the petitioners are so upset. It really does make sense. you don't have to join them. It wont change the fact that it is coming out and will sell boat loads. However they do have a right to feel that way... It's their choice. I didn't sign the petition.

http://www.gametrailers.com...

IdleLeeSiuLung6160d ago

The 360 I believe got a FREE DLC. A FREE DLC!

What more can I say, there is no reason why Valve has to support anything, but the fact that they did officially pledge support is a plus in my book. I'm no fan of L4D, but still thinks this whole petition is ridiculous. Why do we have double standards on different game devs when plenty of rehashed games comes out yearly.

Valve has in some ways spoiled their fans. Ironically the fans have made them who they are.... Maybe Valve could have a trade up program. We will give you an upgrade at reduced price in exchange for your L4D1 license/disc. This of course will enraged another minority of game owners that don't want to upgrade....

Blaze9296160d ago

I thought all this L4D2 crap had died down but there goes X-Play bringing the issue RIGHT back up again.

I agree, this could've been perfect DLC for L4D1 at maybe $20. Let's just hope they actually support L4D2 with tons of content and not a L4D3 next year.

evrfighter6160d ago

It's not that G4 missed the point. It's that they chose to attack what would draw more hits/ratings. The legit arguments were tossed out the window. What we have left when this is done is a straw man. William Randolph Hearst is smiling in his grave at how well they pulled it off.

I read the steam l4d/l4d2 forums everyday. The majority of gamers do NOT want this to be free. L4d2 is new character skins, new weapon skins, new maps and new infected. The only REAL feature I'm seeing that wasn't promised to be in l4d1 was the revamped AI director. In essence, pretty much what Valve promised would be in l4d is being charged at the premium as a new game. The majority of us would gladly pay for this. But at full price?...

In my eyes this is an expansion. Or an episode if you go by what Valve has been adding to HL2. Not worth full price. $25 is the most I'd pay for it. I'm still going to support Valve because they've never wronged pc gamers. But I WILL be giving them what this game is worth. $25 and not a penny more. If I have to wait 6mo-1yr then so be it. MW2 will tide me over just fine and without any fuss.

solar6160d ago

like any game, like any sequel, from any developer, if the game is effing fun, ill buy it and play the crap outta it. i only care about FUN.

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-MD-6160d ago

Everyone who bought the original should get a discount =D

I'm my dreams...

heroicjanitor6160d ago

Of course it shouldn't, but it shouldn't be full price either.

y0haN6159d ago

Exactamundo! I won't be buying this until it's $20 or less.

Lord Shuhei Yoshida6160d ago

No Valve needs to eliminate the average franchise altogether.Although the 360 is accustomed to mediocre games so perhaps its fine

Sunny_D6160d ago

Hell, you can charge a hundred dollars for the game and xbots will still buy it. LOL BEND OVER FOR MICROSOFT! HAHAHA!

Obama6160d ago

no but they shouldn't charge full price for it. It is essentially the same as left 4 dead 1 from what I can tell in the gameplay videos. They even have the same bosses except for one.

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Top Horde Shooters Your Squad Should Play

The Guide Hall explores the top horde shooters that co-op fans should be playing this year before the upcoming launch of Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2!

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15 Xbox Games That Should Make the Multiplatform Jump

While there’s likely already a list behind closed doors, one can still speculate and offer logical suggestions for titles new and old that should find their way into the PlayStation and Switch libraries.

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GamerRN788d ago

Single A games and live service games. Those make sense

S2Killinit788d ago

None of it makes sense. But its happening.

Ps5conehead788d ago

That’s up to Microsoft they want return on there investment. From buying up those publishers. That’s what there in business for. And they made a mistake putting day one exclusive on game pass. So now Microsoft wants to profit any way they can.its called buisness . Just like Sony putting games on pc a year are two after ps5 launch.
So if they can make money off PlayStation and Nintendo. They will do that. And I bet soon real soon they will release some aaa exclusives .and I bet one day it will be same day release

TheEroica788d ago

Sony gamers begging for Xbox games.... Who would've thunk it?

BISHOP-BRASIL788d ago

Yeah, because random site off the internet represents all Sony gamers, they have the letter of attorney and all...

S2Killinit788d ago

Lol what a spin. You dizzy?

AsunaYuukiTheFlash787d ago (Edited 787d ago )

We don’t care about shovelwares. Get that junk out of PS5

StormSnooper787d ago

More like MS begging to put their games on PlayStation.

TheEroica786d ago

Keep begging Sony gamers!

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Friendlygamer788d ago

Some of these seem to be exclusive for lack of enthusiasm of the publisher rather than because of deals. A lot of cool indies skip ps for some reason like katana zero, el paso, elsewhere and gunbrela

S2Killinit788d ago

Even more indies skip xbox. We know that right?

Friendlygamer788d ago

Quality over quantity, Microsoft got some really interesting and curated niche games on their machines, maybe in part because of gamepass

S2Killinit788d ago

Quality and MS are not things you bring up in same sentence.

shinoff2183788d ago (Edited 788d ago )

Alot of indies skip xbox to. It goes round and round. Personally I think your off base on that but no need to have the argument.

Friendlygamer788d ago

Between katana zero, valheim, Battletech, el passo... I don't feel off base. maybe ps got a million of light novel games that will never release on Xbox but like I've said, I'm talking about niche games highlights, the 10%.

  Heck, it's probably thanks to Microsoft that the s.t.a.l.k.e.r games came to console ps included, meanwhile Sony backwards compatibility continues to be extremely anemic.

And I'm sure most ps5 users are happy to ignore these games and just play wathever new 3rd person action game is trending but it's cool that Microsoft gives some love to smaller audiences and software preservation

shinoff2183788d ago

Again your off base just to be snide. All it's showing though is your ignorance.

One light novels wtf is that even. Ps has plenty of pretty damn good indies.

Speaking of indies and ms being responsible. You know F.I.S.T. of course you do alot of you guys just support gamepass. Well here's a history of Sony being responsible for helping indies. Look up the China project from Sony.

Lastly lol your ignorance showing again. Sony has plenty of games. Personally third person is better then first anyway but that's besides the point. Sony gets so many games that xbox doesn't get because yall don't support the games. Jrpgs being a great example. I personally am not into every Sony first party game. Alot of us aren't. On the other side you don't get to eat often so you gobble up everything. Me personally God of War not my cup, etc. For me I'm into jrpgs and ms just can't touch Sony on those. Again because the Xbox base doesn't support it. Devs dont wanna waste their time or money. Hit me up when falcom develops a game over there.

Speaking of third person narrative games. Aren't yall drooling over hellblade 2. The first one was Sony exclusive at one point. Another not my cup game. Showing we don't have to fall in line and agree we love everything Sony puts out. The facts are they sell though unlike elsewhere(not nintendo)

StormSnooper787d ago

You are same person as GamerRN, yes?

Abnor_Mal788d ago

They really think PlayStation fans would want to play Redfall? Pfft.

Personally nothing on that list would be any game I’d want to play.

TwoPicklesGood788d ago

I’d absolutely love Hellblade 2, Palworld, and Quantum Break on ps5 as I’m sure tons of others would too. There’s nothing wrong with wanting games from another console and its sad that people try to act like they aren’t interested in them.

shinoff2183788d ago

While indont agree with the games. I agree with the point. Your not wrong.

DarXyde788d ago

Sunset Overdrive makes very good sense. Palworld might.

Don't know about the others. Hellblade II does make sense given the original launched on PS4 first. Quantum Break was a massive letdown for me. I absolutely hated the whole TV show thing and I don't think anyone should have to relive that on modern hardware.

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Valve Made Left 4 Dead 2 Because The First Game Was A Broken Mess

Left 4 Dead lead Chet Faliszek describes the original Left 4 Dead game as "such a broken thing that nobody wanted to touch it."

ZycoFox900d ago

And then couldn't be arsed to make a third game.

If they can add a lot more stuff to a 2nd game in just 1 year why didn't they make a third game a few years later with tons of stuff extra? Because that shows they could've.

I know Source 2 was kind of broken and was a reason they cancelled L4D3 but it seems wasteful to just toss it away.

Don't know what Valve were thinking.. it's like nobody wanted to fix the issues to get going. They certainly aren't the Valve of 2004 that released fun games with pretty cutting edge graphics.

cthulhucultist898d ago

Valve is allergic to number 3 it seems. It would be easier for them to release a Left 4 Dead 2.5 enhanced version instead of releasing a game with "3" slapped on its title.

rakentaja897d ago

They stopped making games a long time ago. Steam brings in so much money that it's really not worth the effort. Nowadays, people only look for faults in games, and spend more time whining on Twitter/X than playing the game anyway. Valve says a big fat no-no.

anast898d ago

Value is the Blockbuster of video games. They have no need to invest in deving a game, when they can make handfuls of cash renting them.

-Foxtrot900d ago

What are they talking about? Seemed pretty alright to me at launch it just wasn't supported the way Valve promised us

They should have just worked on a revamp / massive update to the game but they didn't they jumped straight to a sequel with brand new characters despite having some sort, if small, story about where the original survivors were heading.

I didn't care for the direction they took the sequel, the original games tone and atmosphere was missing in the second game and is still unmatched. Daytime levels, more whackiness, melee weapons where you could attack a Tank with a frying pan...just wasn't the same to be honest and the new survivors just didn't hold up the originals.

Here's my speculation. I think they did a sequel because they didn't want to update a game co-developed by Turtle Rock, they wanted the franchise to be known as a Valve game only and knew if they updated the first one Turtle Rocks name would still linger on it.

shaenoide898d ago

I want broken games like L4D all day long...

GhostScholar898d ago

Well the first game was by far the best

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