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Pixel Counters Must Die

PlayStation LifeStyle goes in-depth on the practice of pixel counting, exposing the truth behind rendering technology for games and why so many developers choose to run their games below HD resolution.

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Sev6085d ago

I really do think people blow the pixel counts way out of proportion.

If the game still looks and plays great. Who cares if the resolution is a bit lower than expected.

CSM-101e6085d ago

Salvador Dali is widely regarded as one of the finest artist of the 20th century; in part because of his 'photorealistic' technique. But, if you look close, it's actually a 'painterly' style; very blurry, lack of detail. But when looked at from the proper distance, and as a whole, you can see the man's brilliance; both in technique and intent.

no_more_heroes6085d ago

people who wanna see the 360 fall off the face of the earth and don't think it can/should have games with good graphics?
Do I get a prize?
(I REALLY hope people know what 'sarcasm' means)

slopeseeker6085d ago

I agree that pixel counting is blown out of proportion and has little effect on whether I buy a game. But he mentioned ghostbusters and I think it is a legitimate grip for gamers. That dev went to the trouble of making a statement that if the game was ps3 exclusive it would be better basically because the 360 was holding them back. Then, even thought the ps3 was the lead platform, they delivered a significantly lower resolution game with missing effects and lower quality textures. Devs like this need to answer to gamers and the press for delivering a substandard version on one platform especially after statements like the ones they made. That particular dev got all that was coming to them.

LiquifiedArt6085d ago

They finally give US the consumers a truthful eye. The LIES and deciet to pitch a game as "HD" and run it SUB-HD is not tolerable and I won't support that kind of product. Every game this generation should AT MINIMUM run at 720p@30, this is NOT DEBATABLE.

Johnny Rotten6085d ago (Edited 6085d ago )

^^^ you must have a pretty weak game collection.

ps3gamerkyle6085d ago

@CSM-101e

That's an excellent point you presented, about Dali. As long as the game looks decent, and not it shows the developers put effort into it, I'm happy.

People were dissing on MGS4...Freaking MGS4, because it runs in sub-HD resolution. However, it still is one of the best-looking games around!

LiquifiedArt6085d ago (Edited 6085d ago )

My Game collection is above average. In fact im' backlogged so i have to hold off on wasting money on games. (90% ps3 exclusives)

Don't you people have any backbone for shotty buisness practices?
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Its like talking to a bunch of gullable kids. Grow up. Even you Sev! Your what almost 30? If you don't speak with your Wallet or your Vote you have ZERO VOICE in this world. Be thankful you have some voice at all.

People have no backbones for what is Good and Proper. You justify lies making them palatable. The whole idea of calling something HD which is NOT HD is ...A FREAKIN LIE!! And you'll openly support this?

Keep voting for "Change!" lol. Next time ask... "What kind of change?"

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@Below
Did I say they do? Quote me where I said that? I won't personally support under HD titles if I KNOWN they are sub-HD before hand. Obviously if I'm decieved to believe they are HD but are not, what do I do? I take a mental note and am careful to purchase from that company again.

The idea of "Deceptive Practices" should make people angry. Not ACCEPTING! What kind of bullshit citizen is that? to say.. "Ahh its ok, he lied in court or ahhh the infinity dealer told me it had all time 4 wheel drive, but it only comes on 30% of the time..."

DO NOT Justify Deceptive Practices EVER! That beyond idiotic.

Johnny Rotten6085d ago (Edited 6085d ago )

^^^ my first system was PONG, some brown and beige thing with a side paddle that detaches, it had 2 white lines that moved up and down with a white circle. Yep back in the day we called that tennis!

I later upgraded to an atari and so on, so over the years I've come to appreciate the whole "smoke and mirrors" thing for what it is... an art form, not just an art form but an art form that needs balance.

HD is terminology that will change as the years go on and when it does I'm certain video game developers will too but right now developers are doing their best to have that special balance that video games need.

btw your "90% of exclusives" aren't running true 720p, sorry.

DJ6085d ago

Is it really a 'deceptive practice' if the output resolution truly is 720p? Again, at what point do you say "This resolution is not what you advertised to me!"

If you check out the article, you'll see just how hard it is to tell the difference between a sub-HD and a 720p frame.

hay6085d ago

Actually comparing resolutions(mine is bigger) is like comparing d!cks. Unfortunatelly not everyone knows that technique is more important than size...

edgeofblade6085d ago (Edited 6085d ago )

Agreed. I don't care if you are a PS3 fan or a 360 fan. I would MUCH rather have a game that runs at 60 fps than anything less. COD4 and COD:WaW are such visual-realism treats because the framerate came first. My hats off to them.

lol@liquifiedart: People with "principles" make me laugh. The only thing I have seen principles do for this world is organize people into frothing, unthinking mobs that lose sight of the important things.

Oner6085d ago (Edited 6085d ago )

Hhhmmm, I agree with Sev to an extent but I have a view more in line with LiQuiFiedArt....but ultimately I look at it this way ~

I don't agree with how companies can get away with advertising something as something that it's not and in this case it's applied to Resolution Display or when the NATIVE resolution is not HD but UPSCALED to "HD" hence it's not HD. So I ask this ~ Would you buy an "HD" Movie disc if it displayed at Sub-HD levels (below 720)? To me that would be deceptive so shouldn't that apply to other mediums?

But then again what about DDL? Where an "HD" resolution might be 1920x1080p or 1280x720p but it is compressed to $#@! so it REALLY isn't "HD"?...Damnit! Now I am more confused than before as to where I stand! (LoL)

I guess the best way (in my opinion) is this, if the resolution is equal to or above 720p AND not compressed to display crappy artifacts then THAT'S really what HD is (especially since 720 is the defacto minimum standard for HD resolutions no matter what people try say/spin/profess or "principle").

HDgamer6085d ago

fanboys care, they must know how many pixels they are getting even if they have to take a screenshot of their games, count the pixels one by one for 3 weeks and a month using photoshop at the highest zoom settings then talk down about the other console.

edgeofblade6085d ago

Dude... who cares. Is it that important to be certifiably HD? This is why our significant others roll their eyes when we insist on getting "2010 Edition: now with 20% more buzzwords"! This is a faux-principled argument... in that people don't really care that much.

You shouldn't be principled for the sake of being principled...

RumbleFish6085d ago

I don't give a f about resolution when the games look and perform well, but that Ghostbustersgame does not perform very well, in fact it performs horribly. The screen tearing is so bad, i will never give my money to such lazy devellopers!

edhe6085d ago

When the company selling you games consoles that promise fullHD and don't give you it, it's tantamount to fraud.

Failed promises come hand in hand with playstation, so it shouldn't be a surprise. This late in the generation though there's no excuse not to have at least 720p for a detailed game, and 1080p for a basic game.

evrfighter6085d ago

if you have to pixel count to determine if somethings 720p or 1080p because you can't tell the difference....

wait

that's actually pretty funny....silly console gamers.

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DoucheVader6085d ago (Edited 6085d ago )

Pixel counting is a passionate pursuit that is definitely taking care of by guys who are not participating in "adult relations".

DoucheVader6085d ago (Edited 6085d ago )

I concur, Pixel Counters can goto Hell!

StalkingSilence6085d ago

I like a good pixel count/picture quality critique when buying a Blu-ray movie. I like to know how well they have transferred the master and check that it's not just a poorly upscaled DVD. For games, I do like to hear 1080p/60Hz, but that's not why I buy the game or not. Matters much more for movies than games.

Also, having well-mastered sound is often overlooked for games, but critiqued for movies. Why is that?

DJ6085d ago

It's something that's puzzled me for quite some time.

I know Killzone 2 got high marks for its visuals, but only a very small percentage of sites raved about the audio work. When I played it at my friend's apartment (with his surround sound speakers) I found myself playing KZ2 differently. The audio had that much of an impact during multiplayer since I could hear different audio cues from other characters and the environment itself.

Nikkelz6085d ago

so you are saying that if you paid for an hd console and the games arent hd and someone doesnt say anything that they dont have a backbone?
lemme ask you this,what if tecnology is holding us back....oh yea it already is,IF you INDEED read the article you would understand that in order for things to run smoothly sacrifices have to be made,4 times anti aliasing DROPS framerates because we arent at a place where the closer we are to realism the cheaper the medium that creates it is,ps4 is gonna put your worries to rest...but for now relax,get up with a female and do something becuz theres too much agression coming from your side

Pennywise6085d ago

Listen, are you really trying to get some intelligent answers out of him?? It doesnt matter if the person loves Sony, MS, or Nin... if they have 1-3 bubbles they usually are people with limited capacity for thought.

I have no idea what being 30 has to do with any of this, but I would love to hear from liquid about that too.

FantasyStar6085d ago

Y'know, judging a person by the amount of bubbles they have isn't any better than playing the "age card".

Pennywise6085d ago

Fantasy, I see what you are getting at, but people take bubbles because the user has nothing good to say.

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Halo 2 & 3 Campaign Remakes Allegedly In Development, Halo 7 Will Feature Multiplayer

Remakes of the campaigns featured in Xbox Game Studios' Halo 2 and Halo 3 are currently in development, according to a new rumor.

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medman117d ago (Edited 117d ago )

That's Microsoft's gaming division for you...kill off developers making new ip while trying to capitalize off some long lost glory that has no hope of ever being what it once was thanks to recent decision making favoring unrealistic profit goals and greed. What a joke.

Reaper22_117d ago

So much bitterness. Why be upset over something like this. Just don't buy it and stick with what you prefer.

Tacoboto117d ago

Complaining about Microsoft is the only thing people comment here for anymore.

This website is practically dead without it

Mmmkay116d ago

I remember when you guys constantly complained about Sony remaking and remastering games. Guess it is cool now. As usual.

thesoftware730116d ago

Give it rest medman..., take a deep breath and try to not sound so invested in something no one is forcing you to read, buy, or play.

"Console war"is over, Sony won, be happy.

medman112d ago (Edited 112d ago )

@thesoftware730
I'm invested in people losing their jobs and their livelihoods while Microsoft execs tout record profits for their gaming division. Not sure why you wouldn't be invested. Could be you one day. Good luck.

Travesty117d ago

So what’s their solution to having multiplayer? Wait until Halo 7?
That was one of the most memorable parts of Halo..

monkey602117d ago

I'm not sure spending the heavy investment in time to recreate the multiplayer here is the answer either though.
Remaking the campaigns is a great idea to bring the new players up to speed. But if the multiplayer is included in each it'll just fracture the player base of each release.
I think it might be better to turn these campaigns out quicker and have 1 multiplayer game to keep everyone in one place

Travesty117d ago

Maybe having an Halo Online and just release the Combat Evolve maps. And when Halo 2 releases have those maps release. I don’t know but I would like to play a newer version of Halo multiplayer. I know times have changed, and Fortnite is all younger kids really play. But back then it was Halo and you connecting 6 Xbox’s together lol.

jjb1981117d ago

I agree. I think that'll segment the playerbase and once 7 comes out, players might realize it sucks and go back to the older games. Especially if 7 is live-servixe, they'll be shooting themselves in the foot on the one good leg they have to stand on.

crazyCoconuts117d ago

Kinda surprised they didn't just port MCC.
Maybe more $ to by made with separate remasters

Inverno117d ago

Wouldn't have that problem if it were MCC being released. Gotta wait for 7 to be disappointed with MP all over again cause if they half baked Infinite what makes people think they won't half bake the next game? MP works in past HALO games not cause of nostalgia but because it's MP that isn't concerned with the endless service approach.

JEECE116d ago

There is so much cognitive dissonance over Infinite. People say they didn't like it because it was a live service. Yet if you look at what the criticisms of it were at the time it came out and when the playerbase started falling off, the primary issue people had was a lack of updates. In other words, it wasn't enough of a live service.

Which is really an encapsulation of the problem with multiplayer today. So many people think that they want to go back to the "good old days" of mid-2000s multiplayer (The first few Halos, Socom, the first few Battlefields, CS 1.6, etc), but in reality if a multiplayer game like that came out today, people would whine about the lack of content within a month of launch and go back to a live service with a grindy progression system.

isarai117d ago

Why not just port the MCC? 🤔 That was the easiest layup ever and you completely missed it

franwex116d ago

30% profit margins! People will pay $70+ for remakes!

Software_Lover116d ago

I thought the same thing, then I realized that they wouldn't include the remakes in that edition. We may get a different version of Halo MCC in the future with all of the remakes included. I just want them to include Halo 5 at some point for PC.

TheColbertinator117d ago

Can they remake Reach too with the multiplayer?

Knightofelemia117d ago

I wonder if Microsoft will port Reach over to Playstation I quite enjoyed that game. I played Halo 3 and it was not bad I have Halo 2 on the OG Xbox I just need some cables to hook up to my tv to play it.

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Master Chief becomes a Pokemon Master in Halo 3 Pokeball mod

A new Halo 3 mod turns the iconic Master Chief into a Pokémon % Master as functional Pokeballs come to the game.

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just_looken491d ago (Edited 491d ago )

That is very impressive to skip the article here is the direct link to the video
https://x.com/GashnorOffici...

Full animiation then a code change to make the target that comes out of the ball to be in the same class unsc not a easy thing to do.

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Ranking Every Halo Game From Worst To Best

Not every Halo game has been a banger, but the franchise still has a raft of the greatest games of all time.

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HellspawnPR1981779d ago

Infinite is a dumpster fire and as much as I like ODST, in no universe it ranks above Halo 2. This list is trash.

Kaii778d ago

Just exclude Infinite>5>4

ChasterMies778d ago

Best to worst: Halo 3, Halo 2, Halo Reach, Halo CE, Halo 4, Halo ODST, Halo Infinite, Halo 5.