Were you one of many who was initially delighted about the new Gears of War patch, only to discover that they had tweaked the Roadie Run in such a way that it became even more irritating? It seems Epic have listened, and another update is in the works, which will strike a fair balance between old and new.
Gears of War's creator has spoken out against the trend of turning established franchises into live services, urging developers to focus on single-player experiences.
Too bad he didn't have this opinion when he chased trends with Lawbreakers. Or when he chased trends with Radical Heights.
He learned from the mistake or he wouldn’t be advocating for more single player experiences. I find this refreshing in a world where we often see people so stubborn that they tend to double down on a mistake which results in making things even worse. Seriously, good for him!
@Popsicle
Oh for sure, better late than never. And better to somewhat own up to your mistakes, rather than just blaming your release window, or advertising partners, or gamers lol.
@Popsicle
Of course we will never know his intentions, but it's hard to believe he is just a naive agent that is learning from his mistakes.
He could have done one himself after Gears of War but he did Lawbreakers…look how that turned out.
Jawbreakers would have been a better name! Heck, I might just go and trademark that right now.
You're missing the point. His studio's short lifespan is what *inspired* him to make this comment in the first place.
Oh I know the point...I'm just stating the obvious and how stupid he was in the beginning to jump on a trend he had no real experience in. A first person hero shooter with heavy GaaS elements is a lot different than the multiplayer in Gears of War.
He'd have been better creating something like Gears of War again, a great single player story and a good online mode.
-"A first person hero shooter with heavy GaaS elements is a lot different than the multiplayer in Gears of War."
I mean... you're kinda muddying terms when Gears has always had a strong multiplayer component. Even if I grant you that, Cliffy B started cementing himself at Epic with Unreal Tournament, which was among the earliest shooter series to have "proto-GaaS elements" (downloadable maps, cosmetics, special editions that bundle stuff together). Lawbreakers and Radical Heights (were it finished) weren't major career shifts to him like they would be for, say, Fumito Ueda.
Regardless of that, it's still kinda useless to state the obvious when CliffyB himself made his comments with the benefit of hindsight already.
Look, these a-hole publishers can do this, in fact I want them to, so they can f*ck around and find out and fail hard scaring away everyone else from doing this live service push.
This industry is run by some of the dumbest corporate pieces of sh*t I’ve ever seen. They spend stupid amount of money with literally nothing that stands out from games from the previous generation (look at Arkham Knight to the $200 mill Suicide Squad comparison vids), you’re overpaying devs, and you focus on games as a service to milk consumers that a lot of them grew up off traditional games. We’re not idiots, we sniff this sh*t out and won’t touch it.
So, what’s your answer to not getting a ROI? Raise game prices and double down on GaaS so you can suck your consumers dry. That model only works for some games and even then how in hell do you expect it to work with multiple games!? They’re ruining the damn hobby with this corporate greed.
Cut back on dev budgets, cut back on how much your staff is getting paid, until sales for games bring in a profit. That’s the answer and make some games that feel like there’s passion behind them, not some cookie cut up game that feels like the entire existence behind it is to offer as little as it can with repetitive bullsh*t and selling off all this content throughout its life. It’s gross.
Games do bring in a profit, it's the greed that is killing the industry. Here is a fact, live service games overall make more, significantly more money than single player games
What you should be asking is executives not wanting continuous growth or firing them. Saying devs should be fired when those who are fitting the bills and setting unrealistic expectations would make things worse. What do y9u think would happen if they released say, 30 single player games and over half of them fail? You are going after the wrong crowd.
About time he learned. I guess he finally stopped blaming everyone else and took accountability for his mistakes and realized that people really don't care that much for trends or live service.
A new rumor suggests that the Gears of War Trilogy Collection is real, with it launching on the PS5 day one with Xbox and PC.
Yeah, I can totally see that happening. My only doubt is if they are going to announce that at the same time as the Hallo Collection or if they will try to distance both announcements to try to ease the pain
This same insider was correct about Forza Horizon 5. So this might be true. But I heard rumors are the Halo:MCC is the next big one to be announced. We'll see I guess
They should announce dedicated showcase for all Playstation ports, it would be less painful for their fanbase.
Anyway thank you Team Xbox and Phil i will support the games.
I see them being in the same year but halo coming alongside ns2 and if e day is early next year gears collection could come at Christmas time
NOOOOOOOOOOOO screamed an obscured observer from across the room the street.
Well I’ll check it out DAY 1 🤣 I hope the do a good job porting it and don’t have issues like MCC did when it first launched on s/x🤷🏿
Ease the pain? Pain for who? Lol. More games on more platforms is a gamer friendly approach. Locking games behind hardware is archaic and lame... Let's not turn into corporate stooges.
I remember talking about this with someone on the forums and they made some good points. Like what exactly are these old games doing at the moment? They pushed the hardware and did everything they needed to do for that platform at the time. Now in MS case even their new games are gonna be day and date but if we're taking about old games. Those games are just sitting their not doing anything anymore. When you port the old stuff to another console, that game has life again and move few more units and a new audience.
As I said Xbox is different because their stuff is inching closer and closer to be day and date. Though both Xbox and PS have old games that are just sitting around when they could have new audiences and breathe new life into the older exclusives.
Just imagine how well collections of older Nintendo games would sell on pc, xbox and playstation...
I honestly don't expect Nintendo to gain much from releasing their games on 3rd party consoles. People are conditioned to buy Nintendo games on Nintendo hardware. Once that changes, Nintendo will probably lose out on revenue as people pass on their underpowered console to wait for their game to release on a superior console. Tons of people only have a Switch for exclusives, and those exclusives sell better than most games on the other platforms and Nintendo is able to pocket the bulk of that revenue since it is their game on their console.
Not very considering rom packs have been eaily accessible for years now it's only really GameCube and above you need to pick and choose because the game size is fairly large and the Wii IMO didn't emulate well considering the motion controls.
So as incredible as they are I doubt they would sell unless they are overhauling them somehow but then again I wouldn't want to see them overhauled but that's just me I still play the NES version of Mario 3 over the SNES all stars version as a example because I think it looks better.
The Series X/S backwards compatibility to their old classics was one of the last few selling points for those consoles.
Exactly I also hope we get a fable collection since fable 2 never came to Pc
I hope we also get gears of war 4 on Pc too since only gears 5 is on steam along with tactics
Revenue same as always Microsoft don't care about community it's reputation and they've never been worried about losing loyal customers if you recall the Kinect era they abandoned the hardcore entirely to pursue the hardcore gamers grandma
"Where's the goalposts gonna go now?"
"It's just old games sitting around doing nothing! Might as well get money from it and a new audience you can use to potentially make it exclusive again for next gen for them to be enticed to jump ship!"
~New goalpost
"Eventually Sony will likely be forced to do the same"
Is that you begging for games that you once bashed in the past? Too funny, things must be dry in your land.
"aren’t selling as much as Xbox - and the answer will be that they are on less platforms."
No they won't because Xbox doesn't announce sales numbers at all. So how would they compare these sales? What idiotic logic. These shareholders going to pull numbers out their backside?!
Why doesn't he just use the one account. How many N4G tabs does he have open with different accounts?
Why do you need goalposts? More gamers will get to play games. Phil said it few days ago again no game has any red line around it. Seriously man it's gaming and your choice of plastic box makes no difference
It's 2025 enjoy gaming on any platform. We should be celebrating how the Biggest gaming publisher is allowing their games to be played on all platforms but how can we get that when some people feel the need to take victory laps
Well hate to say we told you so. But we called this happening as soon as we saw these big purchases and falling sales, but, a whole slew of people said this would NEVER happen. Goalpost keep moving too as if it's some weird flex.
TBH, Forza, the Indiana Jones game, the next Elder Scrolls, and I hope Fable will make it over. I'm excited about those.
I don't think MS going the Sega route would be a bad thing. Nintendo and Sony are making good hardware. There's no reason to not make profit off of that.
But the goalposts moving is in reference to people who constantly approve and post disingenuous stories that they scream are true.
For instance, "you can build a comparable PC to a PS pro for $700," conveniently leaving off the OS. Or, "Sony delisted HD2 in 170 countries" when in reality, it was 170 regions of which SteamDB lists as having over 3000 regions.
Chevalier
What is this with we. Yes most of us saw this coming and all I am saying is it's a great thing for gamers on all platforms. We should be celebrating the fact amazing games will be available to all of us instead of taking some victory lap because of a plastic box
"What is this with we. Yes most of us saw this coming and all I am saying is it's a great thing for gamers on all platforms. We should be celebrating the fact amazing games will be available to all of us instead of taking some victory lap because of a plastic box"
Cool and it should be celebrated. But this idiotic narrative is that it was done for us as consumers needs to die.
Lots of idiots trying to reframe this when they literally argued that this would NEVER happen when we said yes it will because Gamepass isn't profitable and sales losses all round and add in lower hardware sales and it was obvious
@isarai: “ Where's the goalposts gonna go now? 😀🫳🍿”
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The goal post is going home crawl into the shower open the flow and start crying while rocking back and forward i obscured by the darkness of the room.
I haven't played any oif these games either. Will buy and go through the campgains for sure. They a co-op correct? Hope so
They're amazing. If you ever played Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine then you already have an idea how they play.
As the long-rumored Gears of War Collection looks like it may finally materialize on Xbox, the timing could not be better as Gears 6 and movie news swirls.
(Insert “It should be multi platform if Microsoft investors wants more money” JK here)
All jokes aside congratulations to all the gears fans it will be a blast I remember having fun on the first one on my 360 elite till got RROD and quit Xbox all together but that’s a story for another day.
Congratulations 🎊 🍾 🎉 🎈 🎉 🙏
I'm excited for this just aslong is on the pc also cause I don't have the newest xbox console.
A balance between the old and new? No, we simply want the old.
When I roadie run - mostly in online play - it's because I'm either trying to get somewhere fast, or I'm trying to escape from danger in a manor of haste. In both circumstances, I DO NOT want to take cover. If a do want to roadie run into cover, it's most likely I'll just run head on into the object, not stick into it from the side.
There really wasn't much issue with it before, it was well balanced. What I didn't like in the control system before, was when I try to escape from a gun fight by rolling, and of course, my character sticks to a wall. This problem comes from the fact that both the cover system and the rolling are map to the same button (something I've heard many people online complain about). I know Epic's intent to make the contols intuitive by having most functions mapped to the A button, but taking cover and escaping have two different objectives. I think it would work better if the rolling/roadie running functions had their own buttons: if one was the LB for example, you could still do stuff like volt over cover and immediatly run by pressing A and holding LB or vise versa.
Ofcourse, they probably wouldn't change that in GOW, but I think it may work better.
And of all the glitches they fixed, why is the chain-saw glitch still in there? And (most annoying of all) the sniper reload glitch, where the sniper rifle starts shooting blanks? And ofcourse, let's not forget the all-new, I-try-to-stick-to-cover-but-no w-I-can't-move-glitch.(courtes y of the latest update).
And please, can we have partying on the same team in ranked matches? It sucks playing without friends, and player matches and mostly played by newbies (i.e. not very challenging)
This was a great game, but the multi-player was flawed to begin with. The lack of a good party system, or the allowing of friends in ranked play. Other games, last-gen, and next allow for friends in ranked play... why not Gears?
Things started to go downhill with the first update that "fixed" a few things, but in reality only made everything else worse. We all got used to it, and found ways around it, then came update #2! With this update, even more things got messed up, and less things got fixed.
People are still able to weapon slide, chainsaw glitch, walls are magnetic, and I've seen countless people unable to move off a wall now. The sniper doesnt hit people in the head even when dead-on. It seems like they widened the hit boxes, or made the shotgun more powerful off-host. I dont host games, but I seem to get host-like headshots with the shotgun from long range.
What they should have implemented in this game was a beautiful party system for friends or clans to join ranked play (which is more competitive). That, or they should have allowed for achievements in unranked play. Host advantage was a matter of net-coding, and is more prevalent in this game than any other I've played (even Halo).
If it weren't for the league I run that has Gears in our list of games, I'd give this game the boot. It is a great game, and I bought into the hype. It's one of the best looking games on the 360- true next-gen if you ask me. But a game can't stay great if the mechanics and gameplay is flawed... and it is seriously flawed.
I'm not whining, because I dont have all the achievements, or because I suck, because I really dont. At my high-point I was ranked in the top 900 in Warzone. I'm voicing this, b/c I feel that they could have done so much better with this game than they did. It was a move by MS to push Epic to get it done by November, and I dont think (judging by Cliffy B's reaction on the special DVD) they were ready.
This game needed a few more months (could have held off till late April). There werent many good games coming out in November other than the hyped up Gears, so thats why it needed to be in November (unpolished or not). I'm sure Epic has heard all the gripes and moans of players, and will address every issue in their sequel, provided MS gives them enough time (just like the did for Halo 3)- so they get it right!
dont get me started.
im fed up of sticking to EVERYTHING...and whats the desal with when you are trying to climb up a ledge you get stuch in the air above it then your back down it again.
AND OH MY GOD trying to get down ledges, sometime you just cant AND IF I FALL THRU THE FULE DEPOT MAP ONE MORE TIME I SWEAR
People are still glitching, update has just ruined thre game