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Forza Pitpass Report Ep. 6

The latest Forza Pitpass Report podcast is live

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Zhuk6184d ago

More award winning community support from the Forza team, Turn 10 really supports Xbox 360 and the countless millions of dedicated Forza fans with constant community updates and support on the latest King of console simulation Forza 3 coming out this October.

The fandroids are so jealous at how Turn 10 takes care of Xbox 360 enthusiasts that they are angry that they are in an abusive relationship with PD, who ignores them for years on end only to give them the shakedown with a $40 demo.

really duh6184d ago (Edited 6184d ago )

Greywulf is trolling hard. In the Alan Wake article I read his first comment and gave him the benefit of the doubt but now I know for sure he does nothing but bash 360 news as if trying to convince 360 fans to think what he thinks about the xbox. How in the hell did he get 8 bubbles in 10 days?

Greywulf6184d ago (Edited 6184d ago )

I bash all that needs to be bashed.

Turn10 can't pretend their game is definitive, with only 8 cars on the road. Doesn't matter who developed the game. And oddly enough, the game didn't even win any racing awards at e3. A disney game did, as did need for speed shift. Turn10's antics with fake cgi trailers is laughable as well.

Check out this interview:

http://www.joystiq.com/2009...

Luckily for me, I'm a gamer. Not a douchebag fanboy queer like you, who goes crying every second of every day trying to point out sony fanboys. I loved forza1 and Forza2. these guys are morons though this time around. No real improvements, removing features from f1&f2 as well. Adding Grids Replay feature???? Is retarded, as is a MOVIE EDITOR for a fuxking sim game. Without the boasting, I'd settle with the 8 cars and go "meh, oh well still gunna be decent". But you cant tout your game as having the most cars, when it doesn't.. or the best graphics, when the in game-driving footage looks absolutely NOTHING like the photomode.

Hear that? I LOVEEEEEEE forza1 & Forza2.

I bought my first xbox because of forza1, and how it trampled all over gt4. And guess what? I just *might* buy forza3 if GT5 doesn't show up by the end of the year. The only thing turning me off is the need to buy a real steering wheel since i cant use my G25 on my 360. Which is another $300 bucks to spend on a game with only 8 vehicles on the road.That is no where near enough to be competitive online, or offline.

I get my comments deleted all the time due to crying sony fangirls too. Just today i reminded them they always expect to get XBlA features on PSN then cry when they aren't there.. boom deleted.

Go cry more crybaby.. maybe one day you can actually save up enough milk money to buy multiple consoles. Then you can actually be critical without caring.

Until then keep pretending im a:

Xbox360
PS3
PC
Wii
DS
PSP
Dreamcast

Fanboy.

lol idiot.

matt2476184d ago

fake cgi trailer? So you mean that they were real game play, unlike the Cg trailer for gt5

Greywulf6184d ago (Edited 6184d ago )

the one they showed with the stunts?

Sit down, get ready for the ownage ok?

1. http://www.youtube.com/watc...
2. http://forums.forzamotorspo...

"So I've been reading alot of thoughts on this video and I want to clarify. Inspired by Project Blackjack, this video is an example of what can be done in-game (if you have the determination of course). This video was produced very early on at a stage when we weren't comfortable showing the game...it's a CG render.

So to be clear...this video does not contain any in-game footage. If you want to see 100% in-game footage check out the "E3 2009 Trailer" on the Forza Motorsport 3 page!

Thanks,"

3. Your dumbass face.

Owning fanboys is simple, because you guys are morons.

That is the trailer that was shown off at e3 as "in-game" by turn10. You know, the one you were all excited about because you thought it was ingame? Lol. With cars reflecting other cars, ambient occlusion, and some serious particle systems which were also reflected in vehicles. The fake physics..

The Gt5 trailer is in game, just like the rest of all gt5 trailers.

God that was amazingly easy. This isn't even an issue of GT5 vs Forza since I can own both.

Matt, seriously...

tell me how stupid you feel right now? I really want to know. The in game one is very much in game, because it looks nothing like the creativity trailer which was shown @ e3.

matt2476184d ago

"If you want to see 100% in-game footage check out the "E3 2009 Trailer""
See it says 100% in game footage in the trailer.

The gt5 trailer was partially cgi. For example look at the rally racing part, you don't see the car getting dirty, then they show a cgi damagaged car that is dirty.

Greywulf6184d ago (Edited 6184d ago )

He said click the link, which you didn't go to. So ill do it for you since you're lazy and pathetic & in xbot denial mode. He said the "E3 2009 TRAILER" which isn't the "CREATIVITY" trailer. jackass.

http://forzamotorsport.net/...

Thats the link that he said is 100% in game, and its the one that looks in game. None of the GT5 trailer is fake.. have you even seen GT5p? Polyphony doesn't do cgi trailers.

I can see your sad little world shattering around you

"Buh buh the zigging zagging cars musta been buh buh realtime...buh buh i didn't click on the link.. and he said checkout da e3 trailll..snif snifff.."

moron. Don't start stuff you can't finish. You tried to check me on the fake as$ Forza3 trailer, which was fake. Admit that you've been owned and move on.

You tried to get out of it..

Matt,

Tell me how stupid you feel right now.

Btw, I'll take you leaving this story and not replying as admission of how sad you are.

The Peoples ARMPIT6184d ago

Uncharted2 > Gears of war2

Killzone2, Resistance2 (soon MAG) > Halo franchise

GOW3 > Ninja Blade lol

GT5:P (better yet GTPSP) > Forza3

Heavy Rain > Alan Waits

inFAMOUS > Crackdown (and soon to be crackdown2)

Undersiege > Halo Wars

Demons Soul > all rpg's on the turdfixme to date

White Knight Chronicles applys the finishing blow to the rpg genre.

Left for Dead1&2 = 2002 graphics, physics Turd

The Last Guardian > whole 360 library to date

LOL no matter what games the turdfixme has, the ps3 will always have a better quality title that embarrasses it. The toosh!ty really is the epitome of an outdated turd.

SPREAD THE NEWS. EDUCATE THE NOOBS!!!

The whole turdfixme knob squad are the bums of this console gen. No games to call your own on the poor mans console. I guess it's true when they say "you get what you pay for" lol. Epic fail on your behalf.

matt2476184d ago

Thanks for agreeing with me and saying that the trailer had 100% in game footage. The game is playable and nobody is denying the beauty of the graphics, While gt5 is unplayable without a date. There will be 3 Forza games between gt4 and gt5. So enjoy watching a cgi trailer while everyone else is playing an actual game.

The gt5 trailer does have cgi scenes in it. Yes, some scenes are real, like the parts where a couple of cars don't even have shadows.

really duh6184d ago

This nut case is in still crying. This fool is in here talking about nothing. http://www.youtube.com/watc...

matt2476184d ago

Here's a link for some cgi scenes from gt5 http://bullswarhoy.0fees.ne...

laters

CWMR6184d ago

-Ha ha look at greywulf pretending he is not a ps3 fanboy. Anyway, more cars does not equal a better game. I have played all the Forzas and Gran Turismos and I like Forza better.

You're an ignorant dumbsh*t for claiming Forza 3 didn't win any awards at E3. Gametrailers http://www.gametrailers.com... and Gamespot http://www.gamespot.com/spe... and IGN http://games.ign.com/articl... all voted Forza 3 best racing/driving game at E3 2009. Looks like if anyone is a dumbass it is you.-

Greywulf6184d ago (Edited 6184d ago )

maybe 1 more time? THe creativity trailer with the vehicles spinning was not in game. The "in game" one that looked like a 360 game was in game. Yep, I agree with you there. Because i kept saying it over and over.

Forza3 didn't win the gamecriticawards racing title, the combination of all the sites, like metacritic. Saying it won on a few sites is like saying Too human, lair, and haze got favorable reviews on a fews sites. Its a joke.

GT5's damaged subaru is what you said was CGI, which it isn't. Neither is anything else. How are you going to claim unshadowed objects are cgi??? did they forget the shadowpass when hitting the render button. Just stop stretching. Much like movie trailers, the final product isn't in them and are improved by the time they are shipped. Like 2012, a movie im working on doing the VFX for. Your link is weak sir.

Some dude likes 8 cars? You aren't a sim fan sorry. Plain and simple. Hate to break it to you, but you might enjoy split second or Shift more.

CWMR6184d ago

-What the hell are you talking about? You said Forza 3 "didn't even win any racing awards at e3" and I proved that it did. Now you are trying to weasel out of it using the pathetic excuse that it didn't win every award or some kind of overall award. What BS.-

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The Peoples ARMPIT6184d ago

ATTENTION!!! ATTENTION!!

Uncharted2 > Gears of war2

Killzone2, Resistance2 (soon MAG) > Halo franchise

GOW3 > Ninja Blade lol

GT5:P (better yet GTPSP) > Forza3

Heavy Rain > Alan Waits

inFAMOUS > Crackdown (and soon to be crackdown2)

Undersiege > Halo Wars

Demons Soul > all rpg's on the turdfixme to date

White Knight Chronicles applys the finishing blow to the rpg genre.

Left for Dead1&2 = 2002 graphics, physics Turd

The Last Guardian > whole 360 library to date

LOL no matter what games the turdfixme has, the ps3 will always have a better quality title that embarrasses it. The toosh!ty really is the epitome of an outdated turd.

SPREAD THE NEWS. EDUCATE THE NOOBS!!!

The whole turdfixme knob squad are the bums of this console gen. No games to call your own on the poor mans console. I guess it's true when they say "you get what you pay for" lol. Epic fail on your behalf.

Chicken Chaser6184d ago

a round of applause for trying so hard ;)

The Peoples ARMPIT6184d ago (Edited 6184d ago )

lol not really, it's just a matter of copy and paste :). besides kids nowadays don't know how to listen so like i said it's my job and yours to educate the noobs (12yr old 360 fanboys). i suggest you follow suit and do the same. might even benefit noobs like yourself lol.

Edit: @chicken

I see you're till crying huh? this conversation was over the moment you where proven noobworthy lol. I thought i told you to do your job boy. Calm down we wouldn't want you to shove a remote up your a$$ oh wait...

CWMR6184d ago

-How many times do we have to see that armpit write the same thing? Why are so many ps3 fans such douches?

Chicken Chaser6184d ago (Edited 6184d ago )

oh sure..i'm going to educate people buy saying " X " game is better than " X " game when both games are not even out or coming this year

thanks for the education but no thanks..i don't think people need learn to be as dumb as you

oh btw..write something new next time..instead of the same old rehash copy/paste from all your comments..if you are going to suck at trolling then at least be more varied and entertaining

DelbertGrady6184d ago

If the PS3 and it's games are so superior why do your comments reek of desperation and insecurity?

Lots of you PS3 fanboys come off as religious fanatics when you comment. Maybe it's because you share the same delusional mindset. eep down inside you know that what you wrote is wrong but you are too much in denial to turn back.

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The Peoples ARMPIT6184d ago

LOL you turdfixme bots are delusional. The recent pics of forza3 that has immerged on the internet are nothing but corporate bullshots lol (gears anyone?). How can you claim to have the definitive racing sim when the competition has twice the amount of cars on the track, better car models, better physics (lol forza3 has ps1 type physics, completely none existing), higher resolution, higher sales LMFAO the list just keeps going.

Forza has always been the poor mans gran turismo. The moment you put it in the same sentence is an insult to common sense. You bots are retarded American stooges beyond belief. Craw back to M$'s n*tsak you knob jockeys lol. Epic fail on your behalf.

Leathersoup6184d ago

The "bullshots" that you're referring to are pictures taken from the game using the photo-mode feature. This is no different than pretty much any still picture that has been displayed of GT5.

DelbertGrady6184d ago

400+ fully customizable cars > 700+ skins.

KingKionic 6184d ago

Dan is a pretty nice guy i see.

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Forza Motorsport players slam devs for using 14 year old car model

Throughout its marketing campaign Forza Motorsport has been described as being “built from the ground up,” but some players are skeptical after discovering a reused car model that first appeared in Forza Motorsport 3.

Flawlessmic966d ago (Edited 966d ago )

yep been playing it all day and the newer car models look ok at best and the older models looks downright ugly and out place. im playing on pc at 4k with everything on ultra with dlls performance mode and the cars just look completey off, even the paints looks off, gt7 on ps5 shits on the car models here and its not even close, espcially paint and materials wise!!

its by no means a bad game but it is again another hype job from MS doesnt get close to living up to what it should be.

i genuinly thought this was gonna improve on GT7 in every way, when in fact at this in point after 10 hours the only thing i think is better is the standing start races as opposed to gt7s god awful chase the rabbit races starting 25 seconds behind.

the fuel and pit stop additions to forza are just surface level additions so they could say hey we did it, i am yet to see a meaningful incorporation of either one and the systems that would facilitate it being genuine are not there.

I cant control my power to fuel ratio during the race like i can in gt7, there is no timing hud for the whole grid, so i dont know how far ahead or behind i am or when drivers are pitting so i could plan my strategy, not that pitting is necesarry at all.

rain doesnt cause a slippery surface or aqua plaining nor does it tell you just how wet the track is like gt7 which informs you if inters or full wets are needed, no weather map, nothing.

its really just shinear version of previous forza, if you want proper sim racing where actual strategy comes in to play with longer races, with real pitt stops and having to manage your actual fuel effectively during the race then this game isnt it, go get gt7.

if you want a really simple and basic sim racer then this is for you.

majorly dissapointed, i thought this was the one game from MS that would hit all the right notes, in reality built from the ground up for next gen was a bullshit line and and its not even better than a cross gen game released a year and half ago.

MTRNYC966d ago

One big thing I feel makes GT7 so much better is that they surface mapped all the tracks so they have actual imperfections which means that sometimes the fastest path is slightly off the expected path because you have to avoid the imperfections to maintain traction.

GT7 is by far the more realistic racing game. It's kind of funny because they claim they reworked the whole driving and physics system to compete with GT Sport and Forza's not even close to as realistic as even GT Sport was and GT7 is way better than GT Sport.

Stanjara966d ago

Excellent write up.
I follow SuperGT and in the preview of the game he was not impressed with improvements.
Said it felt the same as FM7.

The whole time I was searching for ray tracing in race and it was not present.

Built from ground up my ass.

(Yes yes I know there is a performance mode and a visual mode I know)

P.s. You can choose your starting grid position. WTF is that in a sim race?

Flawlessmic966d ago (Edited 966d ago )

@mtrnyc

its all the little details, you see the track evolve in gt7 with the rubbers marks, and the marbles from the tyres start building up off the racing line on the side, you can actually see the tyre deformation when racing an f1 car for instance.

honestly, im actually shocked at how much better and more advanced gt7 is than this game, this is literally just a surface level sim racer, it would make a fantastic entry point for someone new to sim racers but my lord does it pale in comparison to gt7 where it counts

@stanjara

yep picking your starting spot is dumb AF for this type of game

dumahim966d ago

"there is no timing hud for the whole grid, so i dont know how far ahead or behind i am or when drivers are pitting so i could plan my strategy"

Wait, really? They don't have the distance or timing splits options for the HUD anymore that's been there from the start, after they add pit stops, when you'd really need something like that?

Flawlessmic966d ago

@dumahin

i will correct myself slightly just opened the game to see if it was option and you can turn it on for single player races, it was set to multiplayer only but again if the races were really gonna need it they wouldve had it set as on but no the races are like i said simple surface level sim racing.

but to answer the question correctly yes it actually does have the option, you just need to turn it on

Mr Logic966d ago

So...you're rendering at 1080p. Much wow

eagle21966d ago (Edited 966d ago )

And what about the loading times in Forza? They sure are super fast in Gran Turismo 7 (PS5). :)

outsider1624966d ago

"i genuinly thought this was gonna improve on GT7 in every way, when in fact at this in point after 10 hours the only thing i think is better is the standing start races as opposed to gt7s god awful chase the rabbit races starting 25 seconds behind."

This! I really hated this for every race it's always a running start and always last. And we all know the reason for that which is the bad ai.

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yeahokwhatever966d ago

"its by no means a bad game but it is again another hype job from MS doesn't get close to living up to what it should be" <-- Spot on. I've been playing since the second it launched and I'm a little disappointed too. You're totally right about the paint..its whacky how bad it is visually. I have pretty damn good hardware and the frame pacing is totally jacked up. I wanted a close-to-GT7 game on my PC, unfortunately Forza is the furthest from GT that its been. :-(

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isarai967d ago

Reusing assets is ok, but 14yr old model, when it's a hero model? That's just lame.

MTRNYC966d ago

“built from the ground up,”

This isn't even the oldest models, they are recycling, there is stuff dating back to the 360 in the game.

Everything is all lies with these guys.

Enjoy the battle pass and the DLC to get cars and tracks in your live service b.s. game, meanwhile we'll be getting them for free in GT7.

outsider1624966d ago

Built from ground up for the Series S most probably. I mean that's 75% of the audience right there.

Father__Merrin966d ago (Edited 966d ago )

Forza motorsport doesn't have that traditional campaign but rather just tick box races. Most reviewers are omitting this

Flawlessmic966d ago (Edited 966d ago )

i dont mind how they have done it but, theres not a whole lot of content race wise which is a let down, and the car RPG thing sucks balls.

i unlock the same things in the same order everytime and make the same upgrades in the same order everytime.

rather than being able to look at the strengths and weakness of the car im using and put my credits into upgrading the weakess im stuck upgrading parts i dont really need cause thats all i can do and by the time i do unlock what i really wanted, lo and behold the 5 race series is over and its on to a new car to rinse and repeat my unlocking and applying my upgrades

IRetrouk966d ago

I remember this being a massive negative for another game a couple gens ago👀

dumahim966d ago

On one hand, that was kind of a bigger deal since the old models didn't have an interior so it was all just a black silhouette inside. But on the other hand, they made no claims that it was built from the ground up and were clear there were premium models that did have the full interior and some without.

IRetrouk966d ago

I agree, it was jarring and not needed in my opinion, but it didn't make the game bad or worse, yet that was the impression around here at the time if you remember.

yeahokwhatever966d ago

i uh....liked the black interiors. I got the perspective without the distraction. I wish it was an option.

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10 of the best racing games of all-time

Paul writes - "Looking back over a lifetime of playing games, and racing games in particular, I am moved to consider which were the best that I have ever played. I'm going to be platform blind on this, largely because I didn't have an Xbox until the 360 came out, so many games I played were on the other consoles that were available. In order that I played them, here are the racing games that have had a lasting impact on me and 10 of the best racing games of all-time."

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gammaray132525d ago (Edited 2525d ago )

this guy is an idiot need for speed was never on the c64 it was first on the 3DO in 1994

Retroman2524d ago

Correct. started on the 3DO.
To bad NFS fell from Grace.
used to buy every nfs title and GT
Now only GT NFS became crapfest.

Kados2524d ago

No particular order:

iRacing
rFactor
rFactor 2
Assetto Corsa
Dirt Rally
F1 2019
Project Cars
Project Cars 2
Gran Turismo 5
Forza 7

Brutus832524d ago

Till today, i still think the best driving game was TDU2

level 3602524d ago

I loved Colin McRae Rally, got addicted to that game for a long time.
DriveClub I highly rate as very good and enjoyable.

Profchaos2524d ago (Edited 2524d ago )

Colin McRae dirt Rally in VR was so good I hope you got a chance to try it

sampsonon2524d ago (Edited 2524d ago )

Yeah, it was a good game. SOO immersive. too bad it had that bad launch or it would be still going strong.

goodwin2524d ago

Where's Porsche Unleashed?

gammaray132523d ago

I think you might mean Porsche Challenge on the PS1 as that was amazing

goodwin2522d ago

I mean Need for Speed 5: Porsche Unleashed

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The Forza Franchise Has Exceeded $1 Billion in Retail Sales

Xbox: "Today, we’re excited to share a major milestone – as of December 2016, the Forza franchise has exceeded $1 billion in retail sales."

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Overload3392d ago

Pretty much expected regarding Forza Horizon 3 (selling 2.5M units). Good numbers compared to the previous iterations.

Gazondaily3392d ago

This is good news. The best racing franchise should be supported. Glad it is. #forzaplayers

Overload3392d ago (Edited 3392d ago )

Selling more than the previous versions would be good news.

"The best racing franchise should be supported."

It is, very much so.

Gazondaily3392d ago

I know. 2.5 million copies isn't bad at all. Forza is smashing it, critically and now sales are reflecting that too.

I wonder if there will be a racer this gen that comes close critically. If so, we're truly in for a treat.

Overload3392d ago

It is amazing watching sales matter and not matter all at the same time. Same with what they reflect.

Gazondaily3392d ago

Quality matters more than sales. Always. And that's why Forza is at the top of the game. Horizon 3 deserves those sales because we need more games like it.

Kingthrash3603392d ago (Edited 3392d ago )

Great to see some good news from forza! Retailing 1 billion bucks is a pretty good milestone. I remember gta5 did it In like a week or so. It may have taken forza longer to reach this milestone and with 10 games...but hey not many have reached that milestone.

Overload3392d ago (Edited 3392d ago )

@Septic

I thought sales reflected people finally seeing the quality.

"Forza is smashing it, critically and now sales are reflecting that too."

You're all over the place.

Do they only reflect quality or what it deserves when it comes to Forza?

Gazondaily3392d ago

"@Septic

I thought sales reflected people finally seeing the quality. "

Lets be honest- frankly terrible games have seen some strong sales. Comparatively drastically weaker racers for instance have seen even higher sales.

"You're all over the place.

Do they only reflect quality or what it deserves when it comes to Forza?"

I'm not all over the place at all. Weren't you the one downplaying the sales previously? See my link below. Its not rocket science mate. The game's quality is great. Sometimes the sales numbers dont do a great game justice. We've seen that time and time again in this industry.

Forza Horizon 3 is an excellent game and the highest rated racer this gen. Now it deserves great sales doesn't it? Its very simple.

Overload3392d ago (Edited 3392d ago )

@Septic

Let's get real here. 2.5M is great for Forza Horizon 3, but it's not that impressive overall. GT Sport will most likely do that very quickly. Driveclub sold 2M and that had a terrible launch.

1B sounds like a big number, but then you realise GT5 did approximately half a billion at retail alone.

Unspoken3392d ago (Edited 3392d ago )

Sony fanboys out in force today!

Looks like your down play is back firing.

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Brazz3392d ago

"Give to Caesar what is Caesar's" right now Forza is number one hands down and other races need to work hard to get at Forza level...
I wonder if Polyphony digital will start to fight back whit GT, cause right now Forza is killing it.

Artemidorus3392d ago

The best? It's not April Fool's yet.

EpicZinger3392d ago

Best racing franchise is already heavily supported. More than 70 million sales to be precise.

corroios3392d ago

Both of your inicial comments are stealth trolling. Why cant you be happy with the news. Then you say others troll...

You already know that when another game arrived it will surpass those numbers maybe in the first 24 hours....

XanderZane3392d ago (Edited 3392d ago )

@Overload
This isn't about GT Sports or Driveclub. You always need to bring some Sony games into a conversation that has nothing to do with them. Forza games have always sold the 2-4 million even when it was on the XBox 360 with over 87 million units sold. It has it's own fanbase that buy it regularly. No one cares what GT Sports or DriveClub sold. They aren't even in the article. All you want to do is TROLL XBox One articles.

@Unspoken
Yes. Trolling Overlord has returned to another XBox One article when he most likely doesn't even own one. He was doing fine until he decided to bring Sony exclusives racers into the mix. He didn't even go for Project Cars or Need For Speed games? lmao!!

Lime1233392d ago

Fantastic numbers for FH3! Already at halfway of GT6 - the worst selling mainline Gran Turismo game.

rainslacker3392d ago

9 releases, over how many years? Retail sales over 1 billion, is anywhere between 16-20 million copies depending on the selling price(not all being $60).

It's great it makes money, don't get me wrong, but with the number of releases it's had, for how long it's been an established franchise, it's not really that remarkable.

Gazondaily3392d ago

Well if the sales don't impress you, perhaps the game itself will. For those who haven't played it, you're missing out on of the best racers ever.

Kribwalker3392d ago

It is a fantastic racing game, even if you aren't a huge fan of racing games, it's a lot of fun. I will keep supporting this series. Not the biggest sim racing fan so the mainline games I usually pass on, but I've bought FH2 and 3 and got the first one with games with gold and they're great

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rainslacker3392d ago (Edited 3392d ago )

Sorry if my putting it into perspective hurt people's feelings.

I'm glad it's making money, and the most recent game is excellent, but 1 billion over 9 releases is kind of commonplace for a moderately successful franchise.

@Dealwithit

If Forza did all that, I'd be impressed.

But for the most part, I'd not be gushing over the sales of any game, with 9 releases, that only made 1 billion at retail. At least not in the way some people here are trying to make it into being the best thing ever and indicative of the game being a high end money maker which somehow is indicative of it's quality, which is a separate matter altogether.

My numbers are sound, and while I find it wonderful that it's a successful franchise, I think too many people are looking at the number, without actually thinking about the rest of the picture.

But, if it makes you all feel better, I'll give you a freebie. 1 billion in retail sales doesn't include digital. So since you all think that Xbox somehow has a 2:1 digital vs retail attach rate, then you can run with Forza having made 3 billion.

Gazondaily3391d ago

"I'm glad it's making money"

You sure? You sure don't sound it lmao. Go play the game. It's wicked. Downplaying the sales aside, this a classic and the best racer this gen.

bouzebbal3391d ago

at the same time when you see what x1 owners have to play....
but yeah, something for you guys to justify the purchase,huh?

MyDietEqualsGames3391d ago (Edited 3391d ago )

Lol. The best. Much like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. There are a few good ones out there, including GT, however this is Forza's moment, so I will try not to take away from it. With that said, Congratulations, Turn10!

IamTylerDurden13391d ago

Overload

Driveclub sold over 3 million. It sold nearly 2.5m physical and with the f2p version it did huge digital numbers. DC is a 3m seller, and well deserved.

Septic

It's funny how u think Driveclub is a terrible game bc of the disastrous launch. If u really were the gaming aficionado u claim you'd know that Driveclub is a different game now. A dramatically improved game and a great racer. Don't act like your not referring to Driveclub in your comments here. U even posted on the PS4 N4G group that Driveclub sucked and Forza is way better. Now i realize it was this article that motivated u to make that comment.

LexHazard793391d ago (Edited 3391d ago )

They mad GT isnt the best racer anymore. So how else to get over the frustration than attacking Xbox gamers with bs...Lol.

rainslacker3391d ago

@Septic

Which one? There are nine games in the franchise. The topic here is about the franchise. If it were about FH3 making one billion at retail, then I'd be thouroughly impressed.

I have played FH3, and several other games in the franchise. But what does that matter to the point I"m trying to make that people are gushing over it, using it as an example of how great FH3 is, while ignoring the fact that it equates to around 112 million on average per release. Is 112 million per game really that amazing?

It's not poor, but as I said, it's not remarkable,or worthy of the correlations to quality that some people are making.

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GtR35olution3392d ago

Lol. I like the nice wording of saying the forza franchise is the best selling this generation when there has been a forza game every year since the xbox one release and there'll be a new game(forza 7) this year. Gran turismo sport will outsell them all and be the best driving simulator.

Gazondaily3392d ago

I'd be very impressed if GT Sport scored higher than Horizon 3. Different types of games I know but would be impressive nonetheless.

GT Sport stands the best chance of dethroning Forza Motorsport and taking the crown though. I like what I've seen so far. Has improved dramatically from what was shown at first. Sales wise also, it will definitely dominate. That's a no brainer.

Neonridr3392d ago

haven't sales of Gran Turismo been declining with each release though? You would think in 2013 when the PS3 had a huge install base, the latest game (6) would muster more than 3.5 million in sales..

Overload3392d ago (Edited 3392d ago )

"You would think in 2013 when the PS3 had a huge install base, the latest game (6) would muster more than 3.5 million in sales.."

Gran Turismo 6 Passes 5 Million Sales, Series Climbs to 76.8 Million
http://www.gamespot.com/art...

Gran Turismo 6 launched on PS3 at the same time as the PS4, which was a mistake in my opinion.

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GtR35olution3392d ago (Edited 3392d ago )

Gran turismo 6 sold over 6 million copies and gran turismo 5 sold over 10 million copies according to sony. There isnt any forza throne to be taken by gran turismo because gran tursmo is a better driving simulator where forza normally has things done in The game such as widening tracks and making cars easier to drive so it appeals more to people that would try racing a gtr with a civic or a dodge neon.

People who normally talk about review scores and menu system when comparing forza and gran turismo should actually be talking about the games content and which is actually a better driving simulator. Gran turismo games are made to be as realistic as possible to where the cars in the games try to simulate the driving physics of the real life ones. Forza games normally has cars with characteristics that are unlike realistic ones and youll see silly things like stock vehicles ets being 10 seconds faster than they are in real life.

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Elit3Nick3392d ago

There isnt any forza throne to be taken by gran turismo because gran tursmo is a better driving simulator where forza normally has things done in The game such as widening tracks and making cars easier to drive so it appeals more to people that would try racing a gtr with a civic or a dodge neon.

I don't see why this would make it any less of a simulator than GT, especially considering that engine tuning is a big part of GT as well. Being able to race a large variety of cars together is part of Forza's success, some people don't like being restricted to certain cars, and it's extremely rewarding working on a car to make it competitive. I'm sure GT Sport's reliance on eSports and restricted car choices will turn off some GT fans, but that's the kind of niche Sony is selling it for, while GT7 will be the more traditional GT game.

TheCommentator3392d ago

Maybe GT will go back to it's roots, so you can simulate driving on an oval with your analog sticks rubber-banded together! GT: Port is already halfway to it's roots anyways, at least judging by the graphics and AI, so anythings' possible.

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darthv723392d ago

I like both GT and Forza. That has to account for something?

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IAmLoki3392d ago

Congrats to Forza and Microsoft for becoming one of the world's most successful driving game franchises. The Forza Horizon series is my favorite with beautiful open world racing, jaw dropping visuals, the best controls, and amazing racing tracks, jam packed with intense action.

mcstorm3392d ago

I agree and I hope the sales for it goes up. Enjoyed 1 and 2 but for me 3 seems to set the bar again for open world racing games.

20live3392d ago

not sure why you are being down voted , Forza Horizon 3 was epic

XanderZane3392d ago

The trolls on here are down voting because they think GT Sports will be better, even though it's not out yet. I hope GT Sport is better then GT5 & GT6. Those games made many fans leave the series. Polyphony needs to come up with something new for GT Sport. I'll continue to enjoy Forza 6 and Forza Horizon 3 while we wait.

XanderZane3392d ago

LOL!! Don't believe me with GT5 vs GT6 sales? Look again. Keep down voting me when I'm right. Sales going down, down, down with GT ever since GT3. Maybe Overlord can damage control this without having to mention an XBox game.

http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...

GT3 sales - 14.98 million worldwide
GT4 sales - 11.66 million worldwide
GT5 sales - 10.70 million worldwide.
GT6 sales - 3.32 million worldwide
Over 7 million gamers suddenly stopped buying Gran Turismo series after GT5? This is on a game console with over 87 million sold.

edeprez3392d ago

I finished FH3, but it really wasn't that great. I really loved FH2, probably my favorite racing game. It's just a copy/paste of FH2, most of the races feel similar to each other, most of the cars are behind a paywall, and the showcases were a letdown for me. Also who wants to customize and name every race/bucket list challenge, i would have been happier with more sets of challenges like in FH 2.
Anyway, i may have ruined the experience for myself by replaying FH2 before launch, so maybe I'm way off base here, i just didn't get any of that "epic" that you noticed.

MRMagoo1233391d ago (Edited 3391d ago )

@xanda

Sony announced gt6 sold over 5 million so you pulling vg numbers and being wrong makes you look desperate and stupid. Even at 5 million it's double forza horizon 3 sales. 😂

http://www.gamespot.com/art...

Liqu1d3391d ago

Lol at Xander using vgchartz when official numbers already exist.

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ShadowKnight3392d ago (Edited 3392d ago )

I wonder and curious if half of those sell numbers is from PC players. Probably not it's probably not selling to well on PC

Kiwi663392d ago

How can half the sales be from PC when only FH3 & Forza Apex are the only two from the whole series that are on Xb/PC

TheHorseTamer3392d ago (Edited 3392d ago )

1/2 pn PC? Haha, that was a good laugh

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game4funz3392d ago

So what? Are you saying there's nothing to be happy about with expected sales?
On that note anyone can say that about any game.

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shiva13392d ago

Tell me one thing though.... Would getting 2.5 mil sales on ps4 for half arsed game is difficult? There is no racing game on ps4 that meets forza and the ps4 gamers would just bite irrespective of quality.... Just like NMS. Having 50mil sales but still not a single game is as big as overwatch, GTAV, FFXV..... Talk about that attach rate and quality. There was this talk about UC4 goty and now i hear nothing....

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jokerisalive3392d ago

A great series. Good to see it hit this milestone.

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aaronaton3392d ago

As a quick comparison, the Gran Tursimo series (as of 2015) has sold over 76 million. Lets say the average game is £30, even though GT5 cost me £50..
If my maths are corrects, the GT series has made at least £22.8 billion. GT sport can only add to this. Plus this is GBP and not Dollars.

OsafuneKatana3392d ago

GT will always be racing king. Forza is lil piece of shit in front of it. :)

danny8183392d ago

its alot younger than GT jackass

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XanderZane3392d ago

It wasn't king last gen. Don't cry. It's only a game.

LandCruiser3392d ago

@xanderzane

It was king and has always been. Don't cry because truth is bitter

ShadowKnight3392d ago (Edited 3392d ago )

Hilarious 😂😂😁

Raiden3392d ago

@Osafunekatan
I would love to see you race some of my Xbox friends, you call Forza a little piece of shit 💩, it would have been nice for you to prove your skill from your GT experience, I have witness my friends at our local game outlet crush so many other racers, all they say Forza made them better racers. I would love to see and upload the outcome on on this site or YOUTUBE. Let me if you are interested, GT skilled racer VS Forza skilled race epic showdown

Bruh3392d ago

Wish my mom would've let me come on the internet and interact with strangers when I was 10

ONESHOTV23392d ago

OsafuneKatana--- king of what arcade racers ? maybe it is but sure it's not being a sim

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Edito3391d ago

I agree with you that GT will always be the King it has a story while forza was created to meet or exceed GT Standards... but i can't agree with the Sh*tty part, while i prefer GT all the way i think Forza is a very good game...

IamTylerDurden13391d ago

Xander

GT absolutely was king last gen, are you joking? Did you hear about this game they call GT5? It did pretty well...

Last gen alone GT sold over 20m. That's nearly what Forza has sold in its entirety.

LexHazard793391d ago (Edited 3391d ago )

I've come to realize that theres no rational in people who only play on one console. Because that series might be all they know. To them its the best thing ever. Yet just from looking at reviews GT has been on a steady decline.

GT hasnt been King of racing since PS2..Lol. Forza is the King Slayer.
Their Motorsports series is great and well you already know about Horizon. Even PGR was better than GT.

Even Driveclub is better than GT!! Yes I said it.

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slate913392d ago

Good thing this article is about Forza and not GT, or you may have a valid comment.

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XanderZane3392d ago

If this was a GT Sport article, the trolls would still find a way to bring an XBox game into the article. lol!!

JasonKCK3392d ago

TitaniumRx you are the problem here

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JasonKCK3391d ago

Ps4andPcRocks And you are the troll here

again part of the problem.

And apparently I have triggered you before

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343_Guilty_Spark3392d ago

Not only are you trolling but your "maths" are wrongs.

76 million * $50 = 3.8 billion

Using a more conservative number, say the average cost of the game over its lifetime was $30

76 million * $30 = 2.28 billion

Now troll elsewhere. This is about Forza not GT (which as a series has been out twice as long as Forza).

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343_Guilty_Spark3392d ago

@Basurabox

More trolling.

GT:

More time on the market
Much larger Sony base
Using average cost over lifetime $30 sales are 2.28 billion vs 1 billion.

I'd say sales are pretty even.

Lime1233392d ago

GT has beem out twice as Forza, still last mainline Gran Turismo game was Gran Turismo 6 and last mainline Forza game was Forza 6.

?

rainslacker3392d ago

Why such a low average lifetime price? It's probably closer to $45, since half of a games sales tend to be within the first year...particularly games with recurring incremental releases. Within a year, most games of this nature typically are still priced around $30. Anything after that is probably inconsequential to the average.

Anyhow, at 76 million * $45 = 3.4 billion.

Kind of pointless to speculate though. MS provided full retail sales, so we'd only have to guess at the number of actual units sold to derive the average price, and then forget it anyways, because 1 billion is still one billion dollars.

Stogz3392d ago

Forza has what though, 9 releases? GT has like 7. How does the time on the market matter?

joshljr3392d ago

@Stogz

I think time on the market matters because you're more likely to skip an iteration if releases are frequent.

_-EDMIX-_3391d ago

How is he trolling? Yes, GT has a larger fan base clearly because it is the preferred game.

More time on the market is irrelevant have you forgotten that Gran Turismo 5 literally sold over 11 million units?

At the time of Gran Turismo 5 release it to literally out sold every single Forza game in existence combined!!!!!!

Is Medal of Honor outselling Call of Duty? Well that's older than Call of Duty right?

Seriously buddy get over it , GT is the preferred series and PD always does a good job.

LexHazard793391d ago (Edited 3391d ago )

@ edmix,

Lol...Forza(only Forza Horizon 3 wasnt and I dont count Apex) and GT are exclusives. So being the "preferred racer" is relative to what console you own. So if you own Playstation most likely Gran Turismo is the best. And Xbox, Forza. Not hard to understand...

And are you comparing Forza to Medal of Honor? Forza gets better reviews than GT and is relevant. Where Medal of Honor now...
We'll see at end of yr what racer is better. Forza 7 or GT Sports(Prolouge)..
Go ahead and press that button on the right.

thisismyaccount3391d ago (Edited 3391d ago )

GT launched 1998
19 years old with 6 main games + 1x PSP game and 5 "bigger paid demos called prologues"
76,000,000 x $30 = $2,280,000,000,000 (12 entries at 6.3mill. copies sold each)

Versus

Forza launched in 2005
soon 12 years old with 6 main games and 3x spin offs (total of 9 games).
22,500,000 x $30 = $675,000,000 (9 entries at 2.5mill. copies sold each)

Far from that $1bill. they claim. They either sold more copies or the avg. price (revenue) is higher than $30 per sold copy. At $30 they would have sold about 33mill. copies (< highly unlikely since 2015, to sell 13 mill. copies). So, yeah the avg. price hast to be higher than the $30 for each sold copy.

old comparison done in 2015 https://imgur.com/a/1ASyv

12x 2 = 19 ("which as a series has been out twice as long as Forza")

#YABADATMATH

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Raiden3391d ago

Look, who cares, MS/XBOX CONGRATULATIONS.
GT has been around longer, but has produced less, every year we get a new and improved FORZA either motorsport or horizon every year, this makes it very hard for GT to out match, because when GT improves it's take them 2yrs to improve as with Forza, well every year and there is improvements. But both games have there place, just enjoy it and don't be sad that your favourite game is not the headliner, just play 🎭 your game.

ChrisChambers3391d ago

With the technology available to you there's no way you should've inflated GT sales by $20 billion. If you're an adult you should be embarrassed. If you're still in school you need to pay attention in math class, maybe stay after school sometime and have your teacher show you how to use a calculator.

Yes GT has sold a lot of copies, but don't let fanboyism turn you into an idiot like the 21 people that have agreed with you so far

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Gazondaily3392d ago

Sick achievement. Many people doubted the numbers:
http://n4g.com/news/1974704...

But looks like those are some noice sale numbers indeed.

Well deserved. Such a sick racer. Was playing it this weekend and aaaah. Feel sorry for all those missing out 😍

christocolus3392d ago (Edited 3392d ago )

Lol @ the comments on that link

The Forza Horizon series got me and my friends back into racing games. FH3 is just so good. I can't wait to see what the studio does next. Hopefully It will be a day one purchase just like FH3. PG and T10 are super talented. Congrats to all involved with the development of this game.

rainslacker3392d ago

Apparently playground is opening a new satellite studio to make open world games. I do think FH3 was some of their best work, and a really good racer. We get to play it at work, and they have the nice wheel set ups and stuff and it gets a lot of my time when I have no actual work to do.

I'd imagine their core studio is still going to be working on F:H though.

Featuring_Dante3392d ago (Edited 3392d ago )

that last line, you're really asking for it.
better watch out, that console war neutrality might be blown now.
How can people objectively put forza above GT, when forza isn't even recognized by the FIA?

Gazondaily3392d ago

LMao asking for what? All racing fans should experience the brilliance of Horizon 3. It's such an epic game. Have you played it?

Aloren3391d ago

"How can people objectively put forza above GT, when forza isn't even recognized by the FIA?"

That's a silly question. Because they like it better ? Cause it's getting better reviews ? Because no matter what the game is, some people will base their opinion on their personal taste rather than on some sponsorship deals ? See, like some put PES above Fifa, how dare they have their own preference!

Featuring_Dante3391d ago (Edited 3391d ago )

seriously though, if you disregard the FIA, you just proved you're a casual scrub who knows nothing about cars.
@Aloren which is why i said *OBJECTIVELY*

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zerocarnage3392d ago (Edited 3392d ago )

I don't usually like forza games, because I don't usually enjoy race games, but must say after my gamble on horizon 3 I'm more than 100% happy.

I'm a blood n guts game kinda lover, so this was a nice change.

I think there's really only a couple of race games out that can compete with forza, project cars and gran turismo. Need for speed I thought on some games was going in the rite direction and don't get me wrong now and again it can pull out a surprise game, but it's not consistent enough like forza.

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