All we seen of Sony's controller was a raw tech demo with no sort of game built around the tech. They didn't even allow hands on for the media. How is it the runner up? the Wiimote should have been the runner up.

Natal and ps3 motion controller .

Even though we havent seen any major games for it . We do know games will be made with this tech.

damn i see you in every natal article saying i want to rape milo.

Man MGo i'm going to call Chris" Hansen on your ass if you keep this up.

You got that look in yo eye, og triple og.

ps3 cause what game would use natal?

Casual gamers.

Ofc Natal win ... duhhh...

The answer to this does not require anyone to speculate.

All people have to ask themselves is which products are people and the media are talking about.

Are people taking about Project Natal and or Sony's remote?

E3 is all about getting people to talk about the new stuff... the one that managed to get people to talk about their products the most.. that one wins.

Gamers lost.

Prototypes against an actual product... interesting how prototypes win the war.

i say if you want to play with a motion controller buy a wii i could careless about natal or sony controller just give me games i can play with my standard controller

Everyone keeps saying the pseye can't do what Natal can. And that's an absolute lie. They were demoing that same wall crashing game back on the Eye toy years ago. Where's teh pope when ya need em.

KING OF THE DOUCHE BAGS.

Sony

HAHAHAAAAAAAHHHHAAAAAAHHAAAAA AAAHAHAAAA!!!!! Sorry, I couldn't type that with a straight face. LMAO!!!

No games were show for either. The games will decide this issue, not especulation

Well that was biased. So many 360 editors, and not one Sony or Nintendo people.

Well, where I would agree, that Wii + Motion Plus might be the best alround motion control device (reasons are stated above elsewhere), it lacks a certain fire power consolewise.

That's why my points go to the PS-device. Natal looks kinda nice but I'd need a bit more to see, before I can really judge it (some of it can indeed be done with a cam, but we'll see).

It's good that this other dimension of gaming is being explored.

Natal is a gimmick at best.

Natal is a really cool concept, i think the problem will be with how it performs. Kind of how when you first heard about the wiimote, sounded really cool until you tried it and realized it´s not precise and isnt that great with fast movement. There is where i found Sonys waggle controlles interesting, he could litteraly thickle the skeletons neck when they showed it. But its to early to tell, hopefully we will see more soon.

but what they presented onscreen was poor.a ball game and a painting game.

nintendo made the wiimote as accurate as it was supposed to be at launch.

sony presented 1:1 control.call it whatever you want,"dildo", or whatever.

IT WORKED. that what counts.and it seems to work for most games.since no one knows what games are coming,we can't say if natal or ps3 motion will be better.but sony wowed after dr marks was nervous at the beginning.and with pseye,you can have voice commands and hand gesture.

hype means nothing when the facts show microsoft had no games for it.and going by DEMOS,sony had things that would be more fun.

apocalypse.....

natal is a joke really

aka mr bill gates baby

I like how most of the people quoted on the bottom are from X360 magazines and journalism sites. Fair right!?

Well they're marketing the hell out of Natal. Hardly anyone has even heard about Sony's motion control. Their version actually looked a lot more effective to me, but I guess we'll see. Sony sucks hard at marketing.

but what is that going to mean in six months when all MS is going to have are Wii-clone motion games?

Bubububu Sony ps eye cant use it to navigate a menu or make things drrawn on paper come to life well BAM here it is. That is next gen and actually advances with tech.

BIG QUESTION

IS NATAL REALLY A "MOTION CONTROLLER"? OR CAN YOU SAY OTHER THING LIKE "ZCAM CONTROLLER" OR "TRACKING BODY CONTROLLER"?

Only one company could trick the entire internet media into overwhelming jock riding. For all the 360 shooter lovers I just want to know how they plan on playing a shooter without a controller...LOL

it's amazing how they say microsoft won when right now i have tiger 2010 with motion+ and right now i've been playing with true one on one and it's great i don't have to wait till next year because by then there will be tons of games with motion+ support and if you don't belive that motion+ works find someone who has it and play it!microsoft and sony can't do much better cause motion+ is one on one right now not next year!and in a month wii sports resort comes out and it will sell like crazy with 24 different games from 12 different sports and it comes with motion+ for free!!!!so you don't have to buy a new camera system!or a camera and 2 remotes!which who knows how much that will cost!!!!!and the hd wii probably won't be to far behind after next year!!!

Now we have the term "Motion Control War"
to add to the term "console war" & "fanboy"

why does the mainstream audience feel the need to trivialize wars, the term console war didnt even really exist before the original xbox came along. and whats up with the term fanboy. that didnt even exist in gaming till it became mainstream (a couple of years after FF7 when the popularity of that game just skyrocketed for some stupid reason) and now anyone who has a favorite anything is deemed a fanboy.

why do we have all these stupid terms

ugh, what happen to the days when we used to just enjoy gaming and fellow gamers used to be friends. now people seem to think, if others dont share their same view then they should walk into busy traffic.

98% of gaming journalist shouldn't exist, 80% of so-called gamers should find another hobby.

Everyone know Natal wins..
Plus, Microsoft got the cash to develop games for it..
So Bam!
There you go, anything to overtake the competition.

At this point Natal is nothing but gimmick.

1. PlayStation Eye Motion
2. Wii Motion Plus
3. Natal

First of all how can you win a conference? whoever writes this stuff must be one of the stupidest people in the world, and nobody cares since you can't win something that doesn't exist since Nintendo is he only one with actual motion control at the moment.

"At this point Natal is nothing but gimmick."

yeah but you got the order wrong...why does everyone think sony is always 1?

1. Wii Motion Plus
2. PlayStation Eye Motion
3. Natal

"why does the mainstream audience feel the need to trivialize wars, the term console war didnt even really exist before the original xbox came along. and whats up with the term fanboy. that didnt even exist in gaming till it became mainstream (a couple of years after FF7 when the popularity of that game just skyrocketed for some stupid reason) and now anyone who has a favorite anything is deemed a fanboy."

because nerds like making up words that don't mean anything.

Natal simply can do most of the same things PSeye can already do. That's the reality.

Having the 3rd dimension sensor doesn't really add that much other than the ability to have when to detect and when not to detect operate better(by holding your arms out or kicking your legs out) - where as the PSeye operates more as 'always on'. What we've seen so far it doesn't really add much precision like they promised it would. We've seen Nothing that indicates the thing is any more precise than PSeye. If you watch the video from 2004 where it shows the Eyetoy guy talking about what the 3dv tech can really do, Sony knew about this tech many years ago and didn't invest in it for good reason. Natal is still 'guessing' on a lot of things just like the PSeye/eyetoy.

Sony has done the best job here and they've combined the two with PSeye and the motion controller they have unmatched precision, They can now track in 3d by 'seeing' where the controller is. With the eye there they can do most things Natal can do, to boot. Sony's tech seems very capable of delivering on it's promise, where as Microsoft tech demos were fake (we're many many years from accomplishing the AI Microsoft seemed to hint Milo was capable of) and worked very poorly.

aint anything fresh or cool, its just a ripoff from EyeToy which sony invented million years ago. And you can't really play anything with Natal if your african american

Really seriously..

What do you like better, hold a racing wheel with perfect force feedback, or hold thin air, and you even do not have something, where your arms can have a rest..

It's an epic fail, Sony won

sonys motion controller looked more convincing than natal , 90 percent of 360 players are hard core shooter enthusiasts nd i cant see them flailing there arms about trying to get that head shot on call of duty or trying to tag some one with a sticky grenade on halo 6 .

The Nintendo wii controller didnt win because it took them 2 years to actaually add a peice to make it better but even then its still not 1:1.I disagree with project Natal winning it.All we saw was video clips and what live stuff they had wasnt all thet inpressive especailly where you cant really move forward.Maybe you reviewers need some glasses and watch the lag it had to offer.Yep that sounds like a winner for the boring casual gammer.The sony tech demo wasnt the best but at least it showed us how well the hardware worked and how well it worked live and that it will be for casual and hardcore gammers.I have all three systems and im pleased with the showing but Natal to me was just a smoke show without enough proof that its legit.I watched the Jimmy Fallon show with Natal on it and all I saw was Lag mania going on.I think people like Natal so much because it shows us how lazy gammers are becoming.Theres going to be an increase in overweight people by 2011.

Yeah...epic fail.

Now that Jim Ryan is gone just need to remove Herman Hulst from his position! And maybe give Shuhei the position he deserved.

This gen hasn't been the best for games, last gen consoles are still out there and now there's been talk of the PS6 and Xbox Two for a year or so. Many games this gen will be ported to next gen and the cycle will continue. The re-release of the Neo Geo AES+, games on cartridge for £70 ($95), gaming is going back in time. Gaming has gone pricing mad with the high cost of games, consoles and controllers. The men and women at the top are clueless.

It’s always interesting to hear behind-the-scenes stories like this, especially involving veterans like Shuhei Yoshida and leadership figures like Jim Ryan. That said, there are usually multiple sides to decisions at that level. It could be less about not “listening” and more about differences in long-term vision for PlayStation. Yoshida played a huge role in shaping the brand, so whatever the reason, his impact is undeniable.

If true, and I'm inclined to believe it is, it goes to show that Sony lost their way when they became more western/didn't respect the PlayStation origin story. Andrew House and Jack Tretton did great work, but they also didn't try to fundamentally change the PlayStation DNA. Ryan oversaw the death of Japan Studio and a live service direction.

I already figured this, good lord imagine if Shuhei took over instead, would've been a platinum era 😩

I miss the first three generations of PlayStation. The way they turned PS3 around, we knew they meant business. We were all worried for a bit there around launch. Eventually from 2008 they started shifting slowly. But since Yoshida was fired, it's never been the same. Still enjoy my PS5 daily. I got a backlog dating back to PS2 lol So I'm fine but new games aren't as appealing anymore.

It seems like we were thrown on to the worst timeline possible where everything is too expensive and the wrong people were put in positions that makes the world a shitty place. We could have had Shu as the head of PS but we got the shitty alternative. Same goes for everyone in power around the world. Doesn’t matter the company or country the majority of us got the shitty picks and the world is declining like never before. I do think PS can come out of this because of their studios, talent and IP but they need someone more in touch with gamers leading things like Shu was. They’re still the best place for console gaming imo but it could be much better than it is especially without the massive live service failures. The rest of the world I have a lot less hope for right now. Hopefully the pendulum swings back towards the good ole days but I’m preparing for the worst.

There goes illuminati distraction story

So now there's certifiable proof that Ryan was in fact "fired", as opposed to when it was first announced that he "retired", in order to save face.

There's another guy who recently "retired" as CEO of another large gaming company, after doing a dismantling job as lead for well over a decade.

seems legit, the business man, fires the one who has ideas to move the business forward.

Jim Ryan is the reason why we are entering year 6 since the PS5 launch and many of us don't feel like the PS5 has gotten started as yet.

I hope going forward, we will see a return to form.