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Mass Effect vs. Mass Effect 2 and Bioshock vs. Bioshock 2 - Graphics compared

Mass Effect and Bioshock have some things in common. A great story, a nice anbiance and a huge community. And at least they both get a sequel. But what about the graphical improvements? PC Games took some screenshots and compared the original games with their sequels.

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-MD-6170d ago

I'm seeing improvements in both games over the originals. Mass Effect 2 looks amazing.

ia_studio6170d ago

I don't see the big improvement in Mass Effect, but I do see the character models in bioshock have improved a lot.

kingdavid6170d ago

bioshock is mainly just an improvement in lighting. Most of it looks the same, not that im arguing with that.

Mass effect, theres not any good comparisons there. Too Hard to judge.

ShabzS6170d ago (Edited 6170d ago )

yes the lighting is one of the major noticible improvements in unreal 3 ... this was really clear while playing gears 2 .... even the water physics were amazing ... the water waves react to your movements very well in the current unreal build... and it is something(water) we can expect to see a lot of in bioshock 2...

STONEY46170d ago

I thought Bioshock ran on a heavily modified Unreal Engine 2.5?

mistajeff6170d ago

A lot of those ME1 shots are from the PC version, which looks a lot better than the 360 version, so it's not exactly a fair comparison. Though I'll admit that the ME2 shots look better, and since they're from the 360 build, I can only imagine how good it'll look on PC.

Yeah, Bioshock ran on a heavily modified Unreal 2.5, dunno about the sequel though. In OXM Hudson said that ME2 isn't using 100% Unreal 3 this time, and explains that that's how they were able to iron out the framerate and texture issues. They said it was really easy to fix the issues once they made the switch.

yog-sothot6170d ago

What I really hope is that I will be able to play those two sequels on the same PC I used to play (and enjoy) the original games.

Mr Marbles6170d ago (Edited 6170d ago )

disagree with this? He didn't say THE two best games of this gen, he said two of the best games this gen.

and that they diffenately are.

sjaakiejj6170d ago

Mass Effect, Definitely one of the best games this gen. Bioshock however bored the hell out of me :/ The story was boring, the gameplay felt slow.. Overal the only good thing about it was the atmosphere

PirateThom6170d ago

Yeah, I agree with Mass Effect. Easily one of my favourite games this gen... BioShock? Not so much, I didn't get it, either a physically copy or gameplay wise.

ShabzS6170d ago

i always felt the shooting in bioshock was terrible ... and the non existant ai... granted the story and plot were all solid ... you never really felt those machine gun kills... although the wrench kills were satisfactory ...

mistajeff6170d ago

I really enjoyed the narrative in Bioshock. I'm not gonna claim that it's groundbreaking like so many people do, because it's not (System Shock???), but it's a good example of the path that 1st person narrative should take in games, where the protagonist really is YOU, you don't see him react because his reactions are your own. Like Gordan Freeman in Half Life. More games need to be doing this, there's way too many FPS games that sacrifice effective narrative by essentially being a 3rd person game that slips in to first-person view when the gameplay starts.

And Mass Effect was just balls awesome.

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DragonWarrior_46170d ago

meh . ME2 is gonna be awesome but both games are far from the best this gen. Ive played better last gen games.

Mr Marbles6170d ago

what games can you name that are better this gen? Killzone? LOL

I don't think so.

thewhoopimen6170d ago (Edited 6170d ago )

What's so great about BioShock2? Me2 I can agree with but Bio2? I think there are plenty of games this gen that have surpassed Bioshock and even hit par with ME1 (MGS4's linear story is superlative even). Besides nobody is missing anything, not even ps3 players considering EVERYONE has a PC.

Sez 6170d ago

That has to be one of the dumbest comments I heard. Yes everyone may have a PC. But not everyone PC is able to run games like bioshock2 or ME2. Have you ever tried to upgrade a personal PC so it could run new games. It's not worth it. Sometimes(depending on the spec's) the game runs choppy or the quality is sh1t. And not everyone has a gaming rig.

mistajeff6170d ago

My gaming rig cost me $300, minus the monitor which I already had. It runs games like Bioshock and ME infinitely better than my 360 does. It's not hard to make a gaming rig, you just need to take 30 minutes and research it. There's even video tutorials for how to put PCs together, it takes 15 minutes, you just have to put some effort into it. Consoles may be easier, but it's not that hard to get a gaming PC that'll run games a lot prettier for a comparable price.

Here's a useful tutorial I saw recently:
http://www.teckh.com/?p=690

You certainly don't need to upgrade your graphics card every year like people say, even to stay ahead of the console curve.

And even if your computer right now runs current PC games like complete @$$, whenever you get your new computer in however many years, you'll ultimately be playing a better looking game than the console versions. Like right now, for example, I could play the Xbox version of KOTOR, or the superior looking and playing PC version. It may have been easier back then to get the console version, but in the long run, the PC version is a better choice. My computer back then couldn't have run it better than the Xbox, but my computer now can, and I'm glad I made the choice to get it on PC despite playing it at a crappier quality back then.

Now that I've wasted a noticeable portion of father's day typing this comment, I think I'll go downstairs and do something more worthwhile than ranting for no reason.

Tony P6170d ago

vega is right in that regard. Just because everyone has a PC doesn't mean they can play the latest games on it. Mainstream PC users can't even find Firefox on the web, let alone build/upgrade a PC for gaming.

It is definitely worth it imo to have a gaming rig. I'm not disagreeing about the value at all. If you know what you're doing or can follow directions, you will often reap richer rewards with better visuals and overall quality than the console version of a game.

But enthusiasts build PCs. Everyone else buys consoles so they don't have to.

thewhoopimen6169d ago (Edited 6169d ago )

What kind of PC today CAN'T run an Unreal engine game? WTF? What, are you pre-teens or something ... seriously? The engine is designed to run everything from a celeron with shared memory up to current processors. Even an iMac can run gears of war. I am shaking my head at some of the rebuttals above.

Tony P6169d ago (Edited 6169d ago )

Yeah, but running a game and running this 'superior' (or sometimes even comparable) version everyone brags about are two very different things. You don't often run a better version of the game from a factory card or an integrated gpu. Maybe on minimum or medium with low detail? These $500-$600 multimedia PCs most people buy aren't gaming rigs.

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Mass Effect - N7 DAY 2025

Bioware writes: "Like you, we’ve heard the rumors lately. You’ve made it clear you care deeply about what’s next. So let’s start by setting the record straight: the next Mass Effect game is in development, and EA and BioWare remain committed to telling more stories in this universe."

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-Foxtrot186d ago

I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed

Like with Fallout, it's starting to feel studios are using TV / Film adaptations when they have no game info to talk about.

toxic-inferno186d ago

I feel the same way.

I mean, how difficult would it be for them to release SOMETHING of substance? Another short trailer? A couple of proper hints? A short story set during the original trilogy, but focused on fringe characters?

Hopefully they're working so hard on the game that they don't have time. But still, with every passing year and so little to show, the franchise will be slipping further and further from people's minds.

Profchaos186d ago

Yeah agree it's almost a cop out since Dev times are 5 to 10 years just throw out a few seasons instead you get them done in a year

jznrpg186d ago

I still haven’t beat Andromeda. I am waiting for a lull of good games in my backlog

P_Bomb186d ago

So the TV show will take place after the OG trilogy. I wonder which ending they’ll use?

Rebel_Scum186d ago

Should’ve just posted a picture of an Elcor saying “regretfully, we have nothing to share.”

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Next ‘BioShock’ Game Changes Leaders After Development Turmoil

The fourth game in the ‘BioShock’ series has been in development for more than a decade

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toxic-inferno284d ago

Bioshock is one of my favourites franchises. I love all 3 games and have played each several times. I even have a room in my house that is loosely decorated around the theme of Bioshock (with a Lighthouse, coral models and postcards styled as though they are from both Rapture and Columbus).

And yet I am going to find it extremely difficult to get even remotely excited about any future episode in the series after all the problems this has had in its development cycle.

Leave the franchise alone. Remaster them again if you have to. Then put whatever talent you have to use on something brand new.

Furesis283d ago

Since ken levine isn't involved i'm not surprised what's going on. i'm more excited for his next game which looks like bioshock. Yet he still works under take2 and they are making bioshock 4 without him, strange situation.

toxic-inferno283d ago

Yes. Judas. Looks brilliant, but it's one of those games that seems to never have had a release date. Instead it's had release windows that keep getting pushed back.

Once it's ready, I'll be there for it though. Ken Levine is an excellent developer.

I get the feeling he dissolved Irrational Games simply so that 2k couldn't tell him what to do. It seems it will pay off, but I feel sorry for those who worked as part of Irrational before it was dissolved, who hadn't independently made a name for themselves.

ActualWhiteMan283d ago

He didn’t even want to make 2, that’s why they did it without him.

Rebel_Scum283d ago

tbh it wouldnt be a Bioshock game without development hell. They all had it.

Michiel1989283d ago

bioshock 2 was 2.5 years after 1, so much of a development hell it was......

-Foxtrot283d ago

"Remaster them again if you have to"

Well apparently they were doing a remake but that got cancelled

Relientk77283d ago

It sucks this game is in development hell because I love BioShock and would love a 4th game. I hope it turns out great, but I guess we'll see.

P_Bomb283d ago

Love Bioshock. It’s too bad what’s going on. At least we have Judas.

Yui_Suzumiya283d ago (Edited 283d ago )

It's been in development hell since 2014. This is nothing new. It saddens me because it's one of my favorite series. At this point, Judas may end up releasing first.

BABI-PANGPANG283d ago

Bioshock 4 (if it ever comes out) will probably still look and play like a Bioshock game, but without Kevin, it might miss that spark that made the originals so special. Honestly, Judas might end up feeling more like the real spiritual successor.

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Mass Effect Companion Tier Ranking

One of the best things about the Mas Effect series is the companions you meet along the way. So here is a tier list of all the companions from Mass Effect!

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IAMRealHooman519d ago

Bro missing companions: Legion, Grunt, Samara/Morinth, Javik, EDI

anast519d ago

Legion, Zaeed, and Jack are my favorites.

RiseNShine519d ago

To think that Bioware at some point was capable of doing games like this, you see those characters and remember them like good old friends, and now check ME Andromeda, Anthem, Veilguard etc and wonder what the hell happened.

anast519d ago

They lost too much talent.

IAMRealHooman519d ago

some in andromeda are decent, I agree with peebee and Vetra being good companions. Except Liam he's trash tier

anast519d ago

Liam lol I can't stand that dude.

IAMRealHooman518d ago

it's like bitch but your shirt back on, your not blue or spikey get away from me