Sony Spills More PS3 Motion Controller Details To Devs

Greywulf6200d ago (Edited 6200d ago )

We saw all working demos at E3 for different types of games. Strategy/fps/tps.

I cant see any more functionality down the line that I didn't see at e3 for game development. It was pretty impressive and the 1:1 response was sick.

Everyone is pretending motion controls is the new way, but lets see what developers actually leap out and make a MotionRPG/Shooter. Because all developers this generation care about, and its sad. Is $$$. $$ isn't in motion control games unless you're nintendo. Its in DlC packs for the same shooter we have been playing since the second one. or a sequel.

If developers were trying to pioneer, they would have done so with eyepets technology, which pretty much does most of this already.

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SprSynJn6200d ago

I am hoping released games like Killzone 2 are able to utilize it. With how precise I am hearing it is, it sounds like it would be one amazing experience.

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yesah6200d ago

all that crap on the devs.....musta made em smell awful

Raz6200d ago

The number of PSEye games released to date is abysmal. Nothing new has been produced for it since launch, and the existing offerings are bland, generic and unimpressive.

Besides, the Sixaxis offers a helluva lot more precision than waving my hands around like a goon.

I wish Sony success, and I'll be watching future developments with the PSWand, but I'm not holding my breath. Unless they get a strong fiscal response right off the bat, devs aren't going to make games for it.

FamilyGuy6200d ago

Boxing glove peripherals, with the ball on them, to track movements for ANY fighting game.

Milky6200d ago

It will only take off if they advertise it as much as possible, even get some celebrities in a couple of adverts lol.

The potential is just so great. Don't let it fade away Sony.

Sarick6199d ago (Edited 6199d ago )

Each of the wands doesn't include 1 analog thumb joystick I think it'll be a failure. I just can't see it working with only triggers. It needs a thumb analog stick in case you want to have directional and camera control.

Think about it. If your able to control the the wand what would control your walking movement in a FPS? If you was playing oblivion how would you walk forward run move left to right etc.

Also a speaker and new rumble tech would be nice.

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UltimateIdiot9116200d ago

*SNIFF* I smell great potential.

Come on Sony, pull this off correctly, I can see this being successful.

Sarick6199d ago

The wands they showed weren't complete. If they neglect on features at launch it'll make the product less enjoyable IMHO.

It'd be nice to see 1 thumb hybrid analog/digital stick on each wand and a built in speaker for added effect. Hope they don't forget rumble.

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PirateThom6200d ago

I think the thing here is that Sony kept it simple, but it really works.

The only goal is to make games for it, which is where these things tend to fall down.

cmrbe6200d ago (Edited 6200d ago )

Big European studios Carmridge/Liverpool must be spearheading this. Those two studios both canceled Gateway and 8 days to focus on Eyepet and other casual projects like Home. These two big studios have been very quite lately. Whatever happened to Eye Toy?. From what i have seen, Eyepet is the first of many string of games that Sony will custom made for the PS3 Eyetoy/Motion controller that Cambridge and Liverpool will be responsible for.

I think Sony are turning these 2 studios into another Santa Monica where they will just mainly focus on R&D in game dev tech for other devs to use. In this case it would be dev tech for motion controller games.

I am sure Sony learned a few lessons with the PS Eye last gen and i agree with you that the software must be there but also just as important is simplicity, application and offcourse price.

What we learned from Nin in regards to motion controllers is that in order to succeed. Motion contollers must be cheap, easy to use/pick up, applicable and most of all fun to use with games out of the box to use it.

When Sony release this controller i hope they bundle it with a midevil game where you play a knight in a tournment which includes events such as archery, sword fighting, joust etc.

ExgamerLegends26200d ago

now i'm sure they're gonna announce a game at TGS that's compatible with the wand. I hope you get two wands when you buy them.

saint_john_paul_ii6200d ago

http://lang.stanford.edu/co...

watch the whole thing, its a lecture of the guy that created the eyetoy, the PS Eye, and the motion controls now, after you watch it, you will be enlightened of what you seen.

ExgamerLegends26200d ago (Edited 6200d ago )

-_-

Can you summarize for us?

Edit: @ below

Yea, well...

Greywulf6200d ago

of humans.

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saint_john_paul_ii6200d ago (Edited 6200d ago )

its too much information to digest by solely word of mouth. if you watch you would understand what they have been working for the last 6 years after the launch of the eyetoy.

you would also realize that they had been experimenting on 3d cameras before Natal.

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ExgamerLegends26200d ago

that demo at 1:05 just totally kills Natal...I'm sorry, MS better do some serious damage control to keep that vid from leaking to the press. Cuz if the see it, Natal will be the biggest laughing stock of this gen.

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Shuya6200d ago

Wow that's amazing that the guy had so much foresight into the future of games, what he showed there how ever many years ago it may be was pretty much the meat of both Sony and Microsoft's motion control demos at this years e3.

break out demo
head tracking
3d space tracking
sword demo
the fire spell demo etc

all running on ps2

great find

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saint_john_paul_ii6200d ago (Edited 6200d ago )

please dont give me the credit, it was the N4G User myothercar who found it, give him the credit

http://www.n4g.com/events_e...

BTW, if it weren't for Phil Harrison pushing this man to do wonders with Camera Tech, not to mention move him on up in Rank, we probably wouldn't see all what is going on today. The man was a visionary guy. he loved things that were creative and original. Shows How Sony thinks for the Future as a company in General.

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The Great Melon6200d ago (Edited 6200d ago )

Watched the video and saw them replay his motions after the half pipe thing and realized that's what Nintendo did with Warioware however many years later. Hopefully the wand will be successful, they have spent many years thinking about the possibilities.

nycredude6200d ago

After that video I am officially hyped for motion controls on the Ps3! Give me Demon's Souls motion control patch and I'll be in heaven! Or hell!

Sarick6199d ago

I don't normally comment that I add bubbles. That really was informative. Kudos

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keysy4206200d ago

voice command this will kill natal

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Sonyslave36200d ago

lol so i guess natal kill this sh!t because natal have voice command.

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El Botto6200d ago

It is over and done. The motion sensing war is about to end and Sony will take home the gold.

Natal is a pos of shovelware compared to this.

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DEADEND6200d ago

I'm telling you right now if you think this is going to be only for the casual then think again, this will also have some great hardcore games for us as well. "with any games across all genres from casual to core."Natal what? "Sony says its new controller will also work in tandem with the Eye's built-in microphone array for voice input and voice recognition." Milo who? lol

Sony FTW

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Whiskers6200d ago

1 for me,49 for Why Dis and all his accounts.

tuglu_pati6200d ago (Edited 6200d ago )

you should buy like a 150, one for you, 50 for Why Dis and his 50 accounts and a 100 for nasim and his 100 accounts.

@ Below

You're correct. 151

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rockleex6200d ago

151 then. ^_^

OmarJA6200d ago

PS3 Motion Controller + Hardcore gaming = Win!

Sony make it happen!

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BaSeBaLlKiD7216200d ago (Edited 6200d ago )

it would be interesting if they implement this with God of War 3 since both will be released around at the same time

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Jack Klugman6200d ago

Mii 2!

for double the price.

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PirateThom6200d ago

We're not talking about Avatars.

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Jack Klugman6200d ago

no confusion. we are talking about sonys wii mote rip off.

thebudgetgamer6200d ago

says the person that loves the ey, i mean natal.

:)

kingboy6200d ago (Edited 6200d ago )

Technically the ps2`s eyetoy inspired Nintendo`s Wii motion control

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cmrbe6200d ago

i could say the same thing about Natal.

PSEye 2 with double the price.

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Jack Klugman6200d ago

you could say it but you would be wrong. eyetoy is old tech put the technical specs against natal and you will see. actually you wont see you will continue to deny.

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thebudgetgamer6200d ago (Edited 6200d ago )

making it not origanal.

:0 thats my only problem with it. microsoft acts like they have done something no one has ever seen lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

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Jack Klugman6200d ago

"actually you wont see you will continue to deny. "

thank you budgetgamer for the verification.

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tuglu_pati6200d ago

who cares, they are all copies of some existing technology.

thebudgetgamer6200d ago (Edited 6200d ago )

you're right. if you go all the way down that hole people should be paying nintendo for the use of d-pads.

klugman: im not bashing natal, but to say its completely new is stupid.

:)

saint_john_paul_ii6200d ago

http://lang.stanford.edu/co...

actually you should watch this video and watch closely at 1:05:00 poor soul. does it look familiar? guys its time to make another new Eyetoy/Natal Comparison video on Youtube...

Godmars2906200d ago

So where's any evidence that Natal is well removed?

The only thing thing that's missing is depth and that breakout game didn't show any real use in that.

Ju6200d ago

Do us all a favor and do as the Pope says and watch that movie. That'll open one Eye or another (LOL).

saint_john_paul_ii6200d ago (Edited 6200d ago )

simply put they were running the 3DV camera (3DV is the company that Microsoft Bought out Recently, remember Folks?) on the PS2 and experimented on it back at the time. apparently one of the demos they ran was the "so Called" Breakout game that Microsoft Showed off at E3 recently. Gentlemen, do you notice any similarities between that 2004 Tech Demo at that Stanford Lecture by Mr. Marks (creator of the Eyetoy, Eye and Motion controller) and that Microsoft E3 Breakout demo?

you see, they had 3-4 years to come out with a new product for the PS3 (aka the PS Eye) so why didn't they took that route? its good to look at this video since its a EE lecture Video from SU. (EE meaning Electrical Engineering) He explained so many things in that video that can be listed as whats going on currently in the Gaming Industry today.

EDIT Below: you are right Ju.

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Ju6200d ago

BTW. Just for the record. We are in 2009 today. The research he described was presented the first time in around 2000 at GDC(s), he started even before that. Their break through came 2002 or so.

So, just to sum that up, Sony was working on that thing for about 9 years (or more). Don't know who they could have copied back then.

Ju6200d ago (Edited 6200d ago )

Hey, I just have to drop one more comment about Pope's video. I like how that guy was getting himself out to not reveal the PS3 at the time. That video is from 2003 (or 04 or so), the PS3 was not revealed at the time, and yet he mentioned "on our next gen system" and "I can't talk to much about next HW" when he mentioned the 3D camera (yeah, he showed a 3D camera in 2003 - basically the complete Natal E3 demo on the PS2, lol (1:07) ). That was kinda hilarious (for me at least). ha ha.

arakouftaian6200d ago

http://lang.stanford.edu/co...

sony had motion controls long time before nintendo but they just diritn use it right nintendo saw what they can do whit it and act fast. but yeah once playstation get this right and on sale is going to be perfect!!! just wach teh full video its amazing

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Whiskers6200d ago

http://i44.tinypic.com/2koq... this will be a sweet Avatar for my next one

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sxpacks6200d ago

Good HW is 1 step, but without the 3rd party Devleoper support Games will not be made.

And marketing to help non-game consumer understand what this is and what they need to play.

Eye toy was very powerful, but developers hardley did anything with it

D3acon6200d ago (Edited 6200d ago )

My favorite part is at about 1:06:00 and he showing the hit the ball into stuff, ala Natal's tech demo. But this is on ps2.

Godmars2906200d ago

Something not good.

That the PS2 had Wii-type games before there was a Wii? That the PS2 has sold more than the Wii yet the Eyetoy was pretty much written off?

Tells you exactly how Natal/PSwand are going to struggle.

ElementX6200d ago

Wii has motion control and everyone says it sucks, PS3 has motion control and everyone is excited?

D3acon6200d ago

I'm really impressed that this was just on ps2, and the ps3 eye is about 3 x as good as the eye toy camera. Hopefully there will be some great games and not just the average kid things.

JustOne6200d ago

Thank you so much my father @Pope_John_Paul_II , the video was very interesting, that's prove they were working on this for years ..

I had the PS2 eyetoy, that was coll and almost did all stuff that natal can do now (at least what we saw right now) .

saint_john_paul_ii6200d ago

dont thank me my son, thank the lord

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Godmars2906200d ago

Cool, so you can just buy one.

Still, dual wielding...

Ju6200d ago

They could modify the DS3 in a way that the camera can track it (like put red spots on the trigger buttons and hold the controller like you do in the bowling game, or put some red and green sleeves over the analog sticks - which you don't need in that case). There you go, you have all you need.

xino6200d ago

Sony cum spills...

Anyway, I think all these lotion/motion crap controller is getting hyped up and is really unneeded!

In the end, the games will just be for casual gamers:/

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Conan-O-Brady6200d ago

until I read Pope's comment's and watched the video he so kindly provided . It is amazing to see the foresight they had back then . blows my mind that so many people actually think NATAL is new tech . Oh well , you know what they say " imitation is the sincerest form of flattery " ............

arakouftaian6200d ago (Edited 6200d ago )

why we dont have this on the ps3 games jet??? :(

http://lang.stanford.edu/co...

ps. i guess they went for the chit and easy way the sixaxs controls , but to be honest i like this a lil more!!!!

saint_john_paul_ii6199d ago (Edited 6199d ago )

since they unveiling of the motion controls at E3 2 weeks ago, you can bet that they might add this functionality now after the Launch of the Motion controllers.

You see just doing this with our DS3 wouldn't work so well, it would feel more like a gimmick instead since the controller makes us sit in our couches, so there's no point. now with the Mo-Co's, it could change that.

Milky6199d ago

I agree the only way this will really take off is with a large advertising scheme.

zok3106199d ago

Wow Sony dropped the ball on this. How could they move so far into R&D and let Nintendo and MS steal the spotlight? Shows how bad their marketing was and is.

I-SEE-YOU6199d ago

For the shear fact once games are made for the PS3 to take full advantage of this motion controller, we will see next-gen graphics along with addictive and amazing games.

Nintendo Wii had the idea but their graphics let them down, now we will see the full potential of what they wanted to achieve. Image a Next-Gen game that uses this controller, fu*king amazing if you ask me.

Again Sony pushes this industry to the next level.

jack_burt0n6199d ago

Fact is that all that matters now is who gets to market quickest with some games at a competitive price, the ps3 eye can already be gotten for less than £20 if they can get the ps3motion in the realm of a dualshock price its going to be very interesting.

yorkie6199d ago

I like the look of this more than Natal, the controller in your hands allows more interaction meaning more complex games, but as touched on in earlier posts because this is an additional peripheral that not all PS3 owners are going to buy how much resources will devs put into it (and same applies to Natal). Wii's success was that the controller was standard with the system therefore devs had to use it. The 'wand' demo at E3 though was brilliant and if that stuff gets put into real games then it could be sensational. Over to Sonys 1st party devs I imagine.

Kurisu6199d ago

I'm looking forward to seeing what games will be available with the PS Motion Controls. It may take a while to get used to the glowing orb on the end, though xD