di ckclarke the reasons are in the article cant you read

MS is trying to take Nintendo's audience
and IMO hardcore gamers will suffer since MS will try to focus real hard to get them

first off i didn't even read the article

ME

as a gamer probably would not really use natal for games...just have seen alot for it...but some cool party games with it or something me and my girlfriend could have fun with.

but I only have one reason to get natal as of now and i think its worth it.

i drink a lot of beer and love my couch.
i love LIVE marketplace...cant wait for movies on demand.
i love netflix on my xbox..i like old movies westernsand lots of cool tv shows..law and order csi...history/discovery channel stuff. and other random stuff of netflix instant plus they will beef it up real big real soon.

but any ways...natal..me drunk or not drunk...no controller...just wave my drunk hands around to flip through live MP and netflix queue and say play stop ff etc... to my tv and it will do it...freaking OMG worth every penny you cannot denies that

i am really excited

I don't really care, Milo looks cool, but I want to Play Halo: Reach, Alan Wake, Forza 3 and Mass Effect 2. Natal isn't a priority for me. But hopefully they put some cool, innovative software out for it. If they do, I'll defiantely give it a go.

The first point is true, the milo demo was totally fake. The second point is well.... We'll have to wait and see. The last point is something that should have been said about MS' last E3 conference

milo looks annoying sorry if i want a kid in my house talking back to me ill make a baby

Actually he pointed out everything....and I couldn't agree more...He is right...

for the only reason why it will suck becasue it doesn't have a physical controller that you can hold and buttons to press.

My problem with Natal and Ps3 Wands is.. You cant do hardcore.. Im sorry.. With Natal if your playing COD what are you gonna do.. YELL RUN LEFT RIGHT LEFT SHOOT SHOOT DUCK GRANADE.. HAHA I mean come on.. With PS3 wands at least it has buttons but hold wands and moving them around is fun for a bit.. But Lets be serious.. Natal and Wands are for CASUAL ONLY..

Im a PS3 fanboy everyone knows this.. But I cant see even Sony making a Hardcore game with those things.. I see them making some fun party games and change of pace style things with at least some substance over Wii.. but hardcore No

Project Natal will NOT work for the same reason that FPS, Unified online network (xbox live) will not work on consoles.

ohhh wait... they did work!

Both ideas xbox live and FPS on consoles were heavily criticized by many people specially Sony fans and PC users... (I count myself since for that reason I didn't even bother buying an original xbox... boy did I miss out).

Microsoft not Sony both concepts mainstream anyways...

So, can they successfully make Project Natal work as they have done with xbox live, Video Marketplace, FPS, RTS, Project Surface, XNA though lots of people criticized it heavily?

Can it fail? Well anything can fail... didn't UMD, Sixaxes failed? Yeah.. but at least Microsoft track record shows that in most of their investments they take it far.

Hell.. even with the xbox brand lots of people thought that Microsoft would never be able to even introduce to the market.

It may work, it may not, at least it isn't a wand.

its also way to early to 'lord it up' as well. Ill make a judgement when i actually pull somebodies head off with my bare hands(no pun)

My only concern is the lack of buttons and how that will translate to the games that need precision. We have 10 buttons and 2 analogues for a reason. If we're being realistic its possible for a different type of play style but it definitely seems it would be aimed more at the casuals and those types of games. We'll see, like i said its well too early to scream anything and we all have our personal concerns and queries about how this will transpire

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1.) How will we shoot.
2.) easily tired
3.) alot of curse words

We all know it will work. We've already seen a good deal of what it can do based on the Playstation Eye's performance. Everyone just has to wait for that first 'hardcore' game that is built around the tech and not the other way around.

It will work, technically. However, it will only be useful with casual games. Last I checked, most of us who bother to talk about video games on the internet are into hardcore games instead of Wii Sports and such.

lol

Bladestar - Try Xbox, HD-DVD, Vista, Zune, 360(RROD all the time).

And UMD has'nt failed as it is a portable media for PSP, which is still supported.

Sixaxis is also still supported.

Ok guys if you noticed all games being pushed are CASUAL games!! This is to take sum of that wii magic away from nintendo.. i dont see the Hardcore gamer takin part in this.. It seems like it might be a blast if you wasted or just to past time but nothing to take me away from real games.. An honestly you cant judge if its gonna work or not its been announced 3 weeks ago ppl!!

p.s- Im willing to bet my check for a year that microsoft will somehow find a way to make halo appear on natal lol..

- No one knows its price.
- No one knows its requirements.
- No one knows what games it has.

MS can slap Halo onto a FPS with auto aim that cover 1/8 of the screen, but its only going to win over their most lobotomized fans. Not casual gamers.

this guy has no idea what he is talking about an he really do much research either
its not justmeant for casual games, its for all games, they said it was going towork past games like burnout paradise. guess he failed to see the video on that
milo well you dont knoiw crap, if it is going to be borring or not. hasnt even come out yet.
so every this guy said on all 3 parts are biased and clearly has no clue.trying to give crappy comments based on something thats not out yet. the site is idiotic

It will work, just not so much with the 'hardcore' imo. MS has been regarded as a console for hardcore gamers alongside the ps3. Now they wanna better what nintendo is offering in the hope of a slice of casual pie + the 360's cheaper than the wii is it not?

point being, we'll still be getting our gears of war, call of duties and halo's using 360 controllers as normal, but we'll also get the more casual games that use natal.

imo i can see them marketing it alongside their cheapest 360 model (they say you don't need a hdd for it but you do need a hdd for the nxe am i right?)

I read another article about how natal was going to change future of gaming. Really nintendo did that and ms are just hoping to expand on it. I'm not sure how successful it will be though since anyone who buys a wii is buying it for the motion controls and more 'casual experience' i.e. theres a lot of games geared towards them. Ms need to ensure that while they attract the casual market from the wii with natal, they don't neglect the customers that got them to where they are now

We heard the same 'revolutionary' statements about the Wii. Its a similar concept, your just not holding something in your hand anymore.

For people into core games, the Natal won't be good news. Casual crap, and the games that do implement it that Microsoft say are 'core' all say they're going to use a controller anyway. All that means is welcome to waggle town.

I've got no doubt it will sell well and be marketed well, but won't be used in any way to appease gamers.

is only true about that article, and that is the fact that there is no way there will be Milo-like stuff in the next 10years, we're not technologically far enough..

For example, "Reason #3: It will take Microsoft in the wrong direction"

That is completely and utterly wrong. Some of us will want Microsoft to keep the 360 as a hardcore gamers system, but it would be best for the gaming industry in whole to bring in as many gamers in as possible.

Natal will allow Microsoft to push into the very expansive and constantly growing casual gaming market. Peopled where scared when NXE came to the 360 that it would be the start of the end of hardcore gaming, and yet Microsoft has shown itself to stay dedicated to both gaming types.

It pushes Microsoft in the direction of innovation rather than computing power. In a company which has often been attacked for being to corporate and safe with developments; natal shows that Microsoft still has its inventive side.

totally agree not hyped about natal at all

i hate how people assume natal is what the 360 is going to be centered around. NO. There will be Natal and there will be physical 360 controllers.

if you ask me, natal's going to have the same fate the ps2 eyetoy did. Sure its fun, but the other games that use a physical controller are the ones people will prefer

Natal is over-hyped. The Playstation Eye has been done that stuff since the PS2 times. About the voice recognition part. I don't think it will work that good with the millions of us that have a heavy accent. But I hope I'm wrong. It is always great when companies explore new interaction options.

Won't you Sony lovers give up already. Can't we all get along.

Jeez, if Sony had come up with this idea you all be going on how amazing and how this is going to revolutionize gaming.

Microsoft comes up with it and all you can do is cry and whine about it.

Nobody knows what the final product will be like, and what it will hold for gamers. In the end there can only be one winner and that is neither Microsoft or Sony. Yes the gamer will be the winner, be it your hardcore gamer or casual gamer.

As an owner of all three consoles I can see this as a positive thing.

Enjoy your gaming and stop wasting time fanboying over a game console.

Not even going to read the article...

Just gonna say luckily most devs hopefully wont be as narrow minded as you are and will make natal work.

Personally I cant wait to see them put it into a proper game...

I can see it for casual games maybe but outside of that the idea seems lame.
i was playing oblivion the other day, and how many ppl would really want to pretend to swing a sword around in their living room?? (my apologies to the star wars/trekkies/virgin crowd)

Driving cars with an imaginary wheel also seems like a short lived thrill, you won't do it for extended periods of time.
As for the Milo, i don't think we want MORE interaction we want LESS, ppl don't even use the phone anymore we text. Am i the only one who quickly clicks through interactions in RPG's?? i mean long winded character interaction is gonna be very boring very soon. The Milo thing seems like novelty that once u see it, you don't want to c it again

On the positives, I think there is a good chance that it will be successful for casual games,party games etc

Kameo ... others <3.

What a waste of time. Kinda like this post! lol

1. sony fanboys say so

2. sony fanboys think so

3. sony fanboys guess so

Just to reply to a couple of things:

"It's specualtive - it isn't out yet, wait until it comes out first"

Yes, it was speculative, congratulations! :] Theorising about what might happen based on what has happened to the industry in the past and based on what little we've seen of the system might not exactly lead to the world's best journalism, but nor is it a terrible crime. I never stated it was anything other than opinion.

"PS3 Fanboy Article OMG!"

I'm not, I'm really not, I swear! I had no idea N4G had quite so many people who were either militant fanboys or terrified of anyone who had an opinion on something! I'm not going to get into a silly argument about it, but I think anyone who read the article properly should be able to tell it's got nothing to do with being a fanboy.

I covered Microsoft more than Sony because I felt they were investing a lot more of their time into Natal then Sony seem to be with their technology. Most of the article can be applied to Sony, if you like.

If you want, shut your eyes and pretend the article is called "Why motion control on both the PS3 and 360 - which I respect equally becuase I am not a fanboy - isn't going to work very well - this is my opinion btw". I would have called it that, but it wouldn't fit in Wordpress! ;]

And to the various people who offered constructive opinions, good or bad:

Thankyou. I'm new to this so I really am taking on board what you've said. And I don't hate Natal, I'm just worried it'll have a negative impact. Like all of us, I just don't want to be surrounded by Wii Sports clones and I think there is a very real chance of that if MS chases the market.

Natal is purely speculation until it's released.

Here's my reason it won't work... The guy with the sunglasses who shows it off looks and acts like a total douche bag. You're indoors, TAKE OFF THE FVCKING SUNGLASSES YOU MORON. I don't want to buy what he's promoting.. But if Natal really is "all that and a bag of potato chips" I just might buy a 360. Although I have my doubts.

When they Demo'd it on Jimmy Falon and played Burnout, it had everyone "excited", but I DO NOT want to play a racing game standing, that's retarded.