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MAG Pro Cons

Will it be a MAG-nificent Gaming experience or a Massive Action Failure? Here we will show you the Pros and Cons of the new Zipper Interactive First-Person Shooter: MAG

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DasBunker6158d ago (Edited 6158d ago )

lol @ the cons.. most of them end with a question mark or are just plain stupid.

My personal cons:
i think it looks ugly when youre holding a granade or the pistol

and thats about it, im getting MAG over COD just because MAG is a dedicated MP game meaning it will have depth and im kinda sick of FPS.. sony bundling this with a mic will be a big plus.

syanara6158d ago

I was unaware it was a bad thing for a pro to end in a question mark?
anyways This is Zipper first FPS I think they may have done one a long time ago but in either case it's still something they are not used to and they seem to be riding too much on the fact it has 256 players online. the graphics don't look ALL that great but then again they don't have to be but there has been alot of people saying that MAG wasn't as good as they had hoped. with so many bad E3 responses will it do good?

Omegasyde6158d ago

I am getting both + operation flashpoint + Bioshock 2.

I really wish MAG was more tactical, but you can't expect "Socom" gameplay with 256 people.

I might have to "hook" the corners at night to afford my habit.

DasBunker6158d ago (Edited 6158d ago )

i was talking about the "cons"... and putting a "?" on them is just basically saying you arent even sure about what youre talking about.

@Omega
MAG is gonna be divided in squads separated from eachother in one map..and each squad will assigned certain objectives (pretty tactical if you ask me), its not like the game is gonna be one big clusterf*** in a 128 vs 128 team deathmatch

Mo0eY6158d ago

The only con about this game is it's not out yet.

Omegasyde6158d ago

By tactical I mean no respawns with objectives i.e. Socom, and Hardcore more in Cod4 or like Rainbow Six.

Running and gunning is fun, but I prefer stealth and precision once in a while. Makes getting the kill worth more if you only have 1 life to give. :)

JL6158d ago

@Omega:
I kind of agree with what you're saying. However I do think this game is plenty tactical. SOCOM type level of tactic would be amazing in this game, but ultimately I just don't think it's realistic. Don't think it could be pulled off too much more tactical than how they have it set up for the fact that there is no AI to "direct" in the programming. Though I do feel, like you mentioned, there will be plenty places in the game where more stealth can be utilized and will by the players looking to get an even better experience from the game (much like the tactical-vs-deathmatch kinda rooms in SOCOM). As for the respawn, the problem i see here is this: One round/game is going to last way too long for there not to be respawn. Yes i think one life would force new levels of tactics but once again doesn't seem realistic to me. The community would quickly fade I think if you died once then had to wait like an hour to be able to play again. It's just another one of those things that are nice in theory, but not practical in application. As for the graphics people talk about: are we seriously that much of graphic-whores? A game like this does NOT need to be leading the pack in graphics at all. So long as they're decent is enough for me.

@syanara:
really? cause everything i've read has ultimately been rather positive about MAG. saying it's shaping up rather nicely and the only real complaint i've seen is lag, which most people mention is fairly minimal and they have plenty time to iron out the last of that.

talltony6158d ago

Its made by zipper! nuff said.

ChozenWoan6158d ago

From what I've seen, this game looks to be more in line with what solders face in the middle east everyday. Primary objectives are given from the top down, while the squad leader selects the secondary targets and directs the team directly as they react to changing circumstances.

The reason the demo video seemed boring is due to the defending team allowing themselves to be capped off so that the command HUD could be demoed more. A lot of people wondered how would commands be issued and that is what Zipper focused on in the demo. In the actual game, I doubt that the other team would put up such a pitiful fight. Not to mention I'm sure the defending team could recapture objectives and force the attacking team to retreat or at least backtrack to re-secure key checkpoints.

Zipper has spent a lot of time with military experts with real world battle experience over the years, so I truly couldn't think of a better studio to work on MAG. They have obviously built this game to be the best example of a major offensive on a highly secured city, but condensed down into a small map with the focus being on man to man combat. For these reasons, MAG will be a big hit for those seeking a mature, tactical, team based combat game.... aka lone wolves need not apply.

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ExgamerLegends26158d ago

were funny. They werent really cons about the game.

ThatCanadianGuy6158d ago (Edited 6158d ago )

"Cons:
May be leaning too much on the 256 online.
it's yet another First-Person shooter.
Will the matches be too long?
is the gameplay gonna match up to the online?
Sub-Par graphics
Going against MW2"

Obviously it's "leaning" on the 256 players, it's all about large scale battles.

"It's another first-person shooter" Yeah...Good oberservation there sherlock ! So is MW2.I bet you have no problem with that tho, right?
Even tho MAG isn't just TDM or CTF etc.Every battle is a strategic mission for your Faction.It's a giant limitless story.
I suggest reading this http://www.8bitjoystick.com...
(An actual preview not some random guys blog)

"Will the matches be to long" Not if you're a hardcore gamer.
Tired of the match? Than quit.

"is the gameplay gonna match up to the online?" What the hell does that even mean?

"Sub-par graphics" It looks just as good as COD4 & WAW.Impressive, since it's packing insanely huge maps, vehicles and 256 people..

"going against MW2" So? How does that reflect the quality of MAG??

And this people, freinds, rabid 360 trolls, is why i hate low-profiled sites.Nothing but pointless blogs and pure nonsense.

king dong6158d ago (Edited 6158d ago )

for a second, i almost thought you were going to write in a thread and not take a dig at the 360 or it's fans!!!!! and then you have the front to call people rabid trolls?????

when your one of the worst most pathetic fanboys on this site.....incredible!!

anyway, i'm thinking mag will pull it off! and i think the devs are thinking the same. coz they've not announced any drop in the player count, so i can only assume they are still confident!

i dont care if the game isnt up to killzones or lost planet2 in the graphics department, MAG was one of the reasons i got a ps3, and will be a day one purchase! man i cant fèçking wait.

i'm going to be buying alot of games for ps360 this year and next! it's great to be a gamer, not a turd like the poster i replyd to.

talltony6158d ago

You think the graphics are jus as good as COD's? really? I dont want this game for the graphics cause they are really not that impressive at all. They do not look better than modern warfare 2 let alone world at war or cod4. Graphics are leats of my worries for this game.

ChozenWoan6158d ago

thanks for the link...
Now that is an article about MAG.

ThatCanadianGuy6158d ago (Edited 6158d ago )

@Talltony

Considering M.A.G is in Alpha stage, which, is before the closed/public beta where they start ironing out glitches and polishing up the graphics.It looks very, very good.

COD4 http://image.com.com/gamesp...

MAG http://static.gamesradar.co...

It looks great.

@King dong
Look man, i have no idea who you are.I've never even seen you post before, so i don't know how you think you know me.But this is a PS3 only thread.I have every single right to post what i want in here.

Just like i have every right to post whatever i want in the 360 section.Since i own a 360 too.Calling me a troll is a bit of a laugh, considering why dis/POG/Mart/pp/Bladestar/Cher rypie etc take trolling as a profession.

Also, anyone who wants to know more about MAG can find all the info you need right here.
http://boardsus.playstation...

-Cheers

talltony6158d ago

Because MAG is indeed 256 players they had to give away some graphical edge. Dont think MAG will be graphically impressive when it comes out cause I know it wont. It will look decent though. And that MAG image you showed off has terrible textures in it. Not a very good example cause even I think the game looks better than that imo.

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Whiteford886158d ago

you took the words right out of my mouth.
Bubbles for you mate!
This guy has no idea what he is on about!!!
Will the matches be too long?
1) How can it be a CON if it is unconfirmed?
2) Personally I like long matches! and I'm certain other people do to, because when a match finishes in Killzone 2 all I hear sometimes is people complaining about how short the matches are, and it happens on COD4 too..

This site is low priority imo

Elite-uk6158d ago

MEH!, Ya just can't please all the people, all the time.

256 player online fps .......... hell yeah!. Anyone who aint looking forward to this, is trippin or is an eggbox nublet. Even if fps aint their thing, they should be looking forward to the ambition this game has, and the size scale its trying to achieve it on!.

kevnb6158d ago

I don't see how having that many people involved will make it more fun... Ill probably give a chance but it just seems like I will feel insignificant.

Ashby_JC6158d ago

I am also curious as to how this will all pan out. its BAD enough when you have 16 players NOT TALKING. let alone a larger amount.

I know its broken up into groups of teams. But I just see alot of matches not working out the way they intend it based on idiots just doin dumb stuff.

But we shall see....its one of the games I may get when I eventually get a PS3. I actually WANT it to be awesome as too make me WANT a PS3!!

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MAG was one of the most ambitious shooters ever and deserves a PS5 sequel

Zipper Interactive were once one of Sony's most important studios and became a household name due to their work on the SOCOM U.S. Navy SEALs series during the PlayStation 2's heyday. Their most ambitious title was MAG. Could it make a comeback?

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yellowgerbil2282d ago

Best game ever. I had put over 1700hrs into that game before it deteriorated too far with cheaters getting out of the map and sadly decided it was time to let it die (Zipper had already been closed down by that time).

_SilverHawk_2282d ago

Amazing game. Hopefully sony makes a sequel

XisThatKid2281d ago

This is the game in modern gaming that even got me into shooters i spent literally days with this game Raven All the way. War against the the mighty D ride oh so edgy S.V.E.R.

NecrumOddBoy2282d ago

Original Battle Royale. No microtransactions. Definitely ahead of time.

XBox4eva692281d ago

It's almost as far from battle royale as you can get. o_O

frostypants2281d ago

It didn't have a BR mode.

Da12RespectA2281d ago

That wasn't a battle royale game at all.

rdgneoz32281d ago

3 teams of 32 fighting it out would be considered Battle Royaleish. If you're gonna saying teams are OK when you start doing teams of 2 or 3 or 4, then 32v32v32 should work. And on besides that, it had 128 v 128 which was insanely fun.

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Muzikguy2282d ago (Edited 2282d ago )

I personally hadn't played much of it. I did spend a lot of time in PlanetSide 2 though (somewhat like MAG). Games like these tend to get overrun by cheaters and then ruined too often.

Teflon022282d ago

MAG didn't have that issue as far as I remember. I use to love the 256 matches. That game had an amazing community. Everyone actually communicated and played together. No one B****ed at the team. Everyone understood there was so much going on that if things are going wrong. Everyone had to think of new strategies.
Fav moment was when all 3 other squads 32 took their objectives but we were struggling with ours and had one more to blow up. The other leaders were communicating asking if the 2 nearest squads should send ppl. Our leader was like Naw I got a idea. So he told us all to die and set ourselves at the nearest hills prone without being seen. So we all did and surrounded the areas.
He said everyone on his count throw your grenades. Then snipers go all out and everyone else run in. They won't be able to get everyone and if needed the snipers go in about 10 seconds after.

Everyone did that and I got to the objective and set it off. 9 of us survived and got it. felt amazing to say I got the objective, cover me in that moment. Wish it was PS4 so I could have saved that moment
It was literally the coolest moment I had in a online shooter, closest since was BF4.

Muzikguy2281d ago

@Teflon

That does indeed sound like an awesome moment. One that makes games like these memorable for sure. It does seem like MAG had a lot more cooperation than most any online shooter

Teflon022281d ago

It did because you absolutely can't get no where in it without teamwork. It also didn't have an extremely big base of players. Everyone who played really wanted to play. I really hope they bring it back and do the same thing to only have serious players get into the big matches again

UltraNova2282d ago

Wow, what a run! This game looks better than PUBG!

Muzikguy2281d ago

Watching that video you wouldn't think the game was on PS3.

Spenok2282d ago

I adored this game too. Some of my best FPS online memories on it. So freaking good.

I'd love to see another game like this come out at some point. And NOT like Planetside... M.A.G. was something special.

yellowgerbil2282d ago

Yeah problem is if it existed now adays, it would likely be riddled with xp boosts and dance moves and all that other pay garbage...
MAG and Warhawk are the only 2 online games I ever got into, and both need a PROPER sequel on PS5.
Remember the first time I got 100 kills in a match, was in a turret with a repair kit and just mowed down wave after wave on Valors map.

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PrinceOfAnger2282d ago

I had so much fun with this game

TGGJustin2282d ago

This is a game that was ahead of its time. Had it came out on PS4 it would've done much better. I put hundreds of hours into this despite the problems it had on PS3.

UnholyLight2281d ago

Really interesting as an Xbox owner at the time. This game had captured my interest as a kid but I never got a chance to play it. Being on PS4 and soon possibly PS5, I would love to see this franchise brought back to life. I imagine with the power of next gen it would be really quite fun.

From what I hear and what I remember, this game was FAR ahead of it's time. A real shame it never truly took off from my understanding.

grifter0242281d ago

I'm an xbox boy since mech warrior but got a ps3 slim for mag. If you liked halo or cod you'd have had a blast in mag. Was one of the first games you could actually do something other than shooting and still make a difference in game.

spicelicka2281d ago

PS4 needs something like it. In the multiplayer space it's far behind the Xbox, there are no quality multiplayer games on it that aren't on other consoles.

Dirtnapstor2282d ago

Yes, yes, and yes. Way ahead of it's time. Would love to see a PS5 variant of this game.

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Modern Warfare Ground War mode has MAG vibes

Erina Rose, Sausage Roll writes, "Call of Duty: Modern War introduced a new, improved, Ground War game mode this weekend that reminds us of the old PlayStation 3 classic, MAG."

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ilikestuff2406d ago (Edited 2406d ago )

I never played mag, I did play this beta however, and if mag was like this beta then (fart noises) for mag.

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TheGamez1002406d ago

Man do I miss mag and zipper.

TheSinsibleOne2406d ago

Seriously though. Nowadays this and next gen are practically begging for a new MAG.

zodiac9092406d ago

How did we go from having games like resistance 1, 2, warhawk with 30 vs 30 player battles, and M.A.G. with 128 vs 128 players, ON LAST GEN to now having 20 vs 20...such a step back.

JEECE2406d ago

Because Sony hadn't figured out how to market their exclusives yet. Plus at that time COD craze was at its peak. So "generic high school bro #7," who was the primary purchaser of FPSs at that time (or at least represented a crowd necessary to sustain a playerbase), if he even had a PS3, would have just seen a game like MAG as a "copycat of Black Ops, man."

Not to mention MAG was pretty terribly uninviting for new people after awhile, because it was more skill-based. This was great for veterans, but if you weren't willing to put in the time getting destroyed for awhile, you would never appreciate the game. The Battlefield: Bad Company and BF:3 games out during that gen were far more accessible to lower level players.

Vegamyster2406d ago

Battlefield 4 was at the start of the generation and had 64 players, to me it depends more on how the map/gameplay is utilized, i enjoyed the 20vs20 modes more in the MW Beta than the 64 player ground war mode.

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moomoo3192406d ago

It feels absolutely nothing like MAG lol. Way more battlefield vibes

xX-oldboy-Xx2406d ago

And even those are very small vibes, it still feels like COD at the end of the day.

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MAG: The Greatest Game You Never Played

Almost 10 years ago the greatest first person shooter came out and most of you probably never heard of it, never got to play it and never will.

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FiLTHY ESKiMO2526d ago

Who would the next gen version nor that Zippers gone?

_SilverHawk_2526d ago

I remember this game and it was amazing. I would like it if Sony would make another one because this game was ahead of it's time.

RememberThe3572525d ago

It was an amazing concept and it was a cool game, it was just ahead of it's time. I played the sh!t outta MAG, but the game itself played just okay. I'd love to have seen a sequel, even just a spiritual successor, especially with the next gen coming and the way cloud computing has advanced a game like that nowadays would be awesome.

Elwenil2525d ago

It may have been amazing if you played for SVER, but if you played for Raven or Valor, it was an unbalanced mess. I had some fun with it, but the player count was an illusion at best and false advertising at it's worst. The map and faction balance was so ridiculously skewed you knew who was going to win as soon as you saw what team you were against. It definitely had some interesting ideas, but was far from an amazing experience in my opinion. I would have much rather Zipper have made another SOCOM game rather than MAG.

darthv722525d ago

that game would make for a great battle royale release. So many players all at once... it was ahead of its time for a console shooter.

TheGamez1002526d ago

Was such an underrated game. One of my most favorite fps of last gen. So unfortunate zipper was closed down. Imagine if it was a success and thered be a 2nd game by now.....

TekoIie2526d ago (Edited 2526d ago )

I can think of many better games that I've yet to play...

"Almost 10 years ago the greatest first person shooter came out"

HAH. So is Planetside 2 now the best FPS ever? Because it does everything MAG can and does it far better. I'm afraid that MAG is basically your standard FPS but uses scale as it's selling point. The vast majority of shooters that focus on smaller scale matches have gameplay leaps and bounds better than MAG so it is definitely not the greatest FPS.

I know many people are going to try and refute this by telling me to look at the three factions but MAG has literally no character. The game is call 'Massive. Action. Game' for gods sake which is a contender for 'The Worst Title a Game Could Have' award. I've never been a fan of Zipper but I hear great things about them from their PS2 days. However, with MP gaining popularity in the generation that followed I think it says a lot that they couldn't keep up with the competition.

Knushwood Butt2526d ago

'HAH. So is Planetside 2 now the best FPS ever? Because it does everything MAG can and does it far better.'.

It was released years later.

Was there anything offering what MAG did when MAG was released?

TekoIie2525d ago

"Was there anything offering what MAG did when MAG was released?"

Yes, Planetside 1.

Knushwood Butt2525d ago

Fair enough.

Can't say I've played it, but I enjoyed MAG for a while.

FantasticBoss2524d ago

MAG was one of the very few games trying to do scale like it did, but I think it missed the mark. Wish it could have had a sequel though as they may have been able to iterate on it to create something pretty neat.

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Profchaos2524d ago

Sony had a awesome approach to online in the PS2 days with SOCOM co op that had games working together to achieve a tactical goal they pioneered voice chat on the PS2 for SOCOM but as they steamrolled ahead it was clear team Deathmatch would take over in popularity which shifted zippers approach so all their experience amounted for not much when designing online in the PS3 era.
It still was a decent game but couldn't stand out compared to cod which had millions of players consistently

yellowgerbil2526d ago

Loved mag had over 1700hrs into it across many accounts, remember my first 100 kill sabotage game, was insane

BLow2524d ago

Yes, so do I and not that game they released on PS3. I'm talking the one Zipper did and not Slant Six. At least Slant Six tried to do the series justice once they fixed the issues.

The one Zipper did didn't feel like Socom to me. It felt more like Ghost Recon to be honest. I absolutely loved the voice commands and I figured they would be even better on next gen hardware. They didn't even bother doing anything.

Maybe, I just wanted it more grounded and not so techy if that makes sense. I just wanted to go into jungles or missions just using my wits and patience and not have to use a bunch of gadgets. I wanted to be able to give orders with my voice to squad members. Yeah, they can at least have earpieces lol.

It's hard to explain but I know the old school Socom players know what I'm saying. Socom just had a certain feeling and the new game didn't feel that way. Slant Six yes. Zipper no...

We can only hope but if they bring it back they have to do it right. If not don't bother and just make something new. I rather have the memories I had with Socom be mostly positive than negative. Unless you pull a God of War, don't bother lol.

I've already said too much but that goes to show how much I loved Socom. Especially 1 and 2.....

Deathdeliverer2525d ago (Edited 2525d ago )

Game was simply ahead of its time. If mag came out now with improved graphics people would be blown away. Back then people whined about the graphics even though it had players literally everywhere. It was several great games in one. Battlefield, Ghost Recon, and Call of duty.

Hungryalpaca2525d ago

What exactly was it ahead of its time in? Player count? Planetside released in 2003 and and played count per match was over 300.

xkvcq2524d ago (Edited 2524d ago )

The BETA for MAG was one of my fondest gaming moments. I was highly anticipating the start of the beta servers but I had school that day. I had started downloading it that morning as soon as it was available and just when it finished downloading I found out school was cancelled, last minute, because of weather. BEST. SNOW DAY. EVER. I played the beta all day, continuing to put off my homework :P

TekoIie2524d ago (Edited 2524d ago )

Well have I got news for you pal! Planetside 2 has been available for nearly 4 years on the PS4 and longer on PC and people still aren't blown away. Maybe the novelty of scale is actually overrated and people don't care as much about it which is why MAG failed when multiplayer shooters were at peak popularity during it's lifetime?

If you were blown away by 256 players in 2010 why would you not have been blown away by 1000 roughly 2-3 years later?

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